Upgrading Res Towers

QuovatisQuovatis Team Inversion Join Date: 2010-01-26 Member: 70321Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">It might not do what you think</div>Apparently upgrading resource towers only increases the amount of personal resources (plasma) and does NOT affect the team resources at all. A fully upgraded res tower will spit out 2 personal and 1 team resource every 12 seconds. I know most of us think it increases both. I blame NS2HD for spreading the lie (j/k, great work). Anyway, knowing that, upgrading a resource tower is a fairly poor investment. Trading team resources for personal resources is a bad exchange rate IMHO.

Perhaps each upgrade level should increase personal resource production by 33.3% and team resources by 16.6%. This would mean a fully upgraded tower would have the output of 1.5 unupgraded towers and would maybe justify the cost. As is, I don't think any commander should be upgrading res towers...it's a waste IMHO.
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  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    edited February 2011
    Yeah I had someone ingame swear down dead that it upgraded carbon output, I'm pretty sure it even says on the upgrade that it only increases plasma output.

    It's useful if your team is dying a lot, and it will probably be more useful when there are jetpacks and upgrades to spend plasma on, but at the moment yes it's not too useful.
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  • QuovatisQuovatis Team Inversion Join Date: 2010-01-26 Member: 70321Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Yeah, the only time it might be useful is in the early game, but that's when team resources are the most precious. Later in the game game it doesn't really matter whether you have 300 or 600 personal resources...you'll have "enough".
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  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    It could be more worthwhile for aliens because it helps gorges spam hydras, but given the lag that causes it might sabotage you more than it helps.
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  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Is this a bug then? I'm pretty sure it upgraded both in previous builds.
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  • QuovatisQuovatis Team Inversion Join Date: 2010-01-26 Member: 70321Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    I don't think it's a bug. The text on the in-game button says only "player resources". It doesn't mention team resources.
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    No, if anything it's fixed. It always said it improved plasma production, never general resource production.
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  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1830275:date=Feb 7 2011, 07:17 PM:name=ScardyBob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ScardyBob @ Feb 7 2011, 07:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1830275"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is this a bug then? I'm pretty sure it upgraded both in previous builds.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Not that I'm aware, I've always been aware that it's plasma only, I never thought it was carbon because it says so on the upgrade that it's only plasma. I don't know why people think otherwise.
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  • QuovatisQuovatis Team Inversion Join Date: 2010-01-26 Member: 70321Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1830285:date=Feb 7 2011, 12:29 PM:name=Chris0132)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chris0132 @ Feb 7 2011, 12:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1830285"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Not that I'm aware, I've always been aware that it's plasma only, I never thought it was carbon because it says so on the upgrade that it's only plasma. I don't know why people think otherwise.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    NS2HD mentions (incorrectly) that it generates team resources in many of his videos. I think that's a big source of confusion.
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  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1830296:date=Feb 7 2011, 07:44 PM:name=Quovatis)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quovatis @ Feb 7 2011, 07:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1830296"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->NS2HD mentions (incorrectly) that it generates team resources in many of his videos. I think that's a big source of confusion.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Hmm never noticed that.
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  • extolloextollo Ping Blip Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72457Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1830296:date=Feb 7 2011, 02:44 PM:name=Quovatis)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quovatis @ Feb 7 2011, 02:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1830296"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->NS2HD mentions (incorrectly) that it generates team resources in many of his videos. I think that's a big source of confusion.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Hopefully his trip to UWE will straighten out some of the confusion & he'll be more careful with facts. NS2HD is just a fan making videos, but people take a lot of what he says as canonical.

    Love his videos though.
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  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1830285:date=Feb 7 2011, 11:29 AM:name=Chris0132)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chris0132 @ Feb 7 2011, 11:29 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1830285"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Not that I'm aware, I've always been aware that it's plasma only, I never thought it was carbon because it says so on the upgrade that it's only plasma. I don't know why people think otherwise.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I totally missed that then. Now I feel bad about all the games I wasted carbon upgrading extractors.
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