more bsods

Tig

i swear i don't get these with any other program, does anybody else with a ati radeon 5770 or a phenom II 955 quadcore chip get a bluescreen like this?

<a href="http://getsatisfaction.com/unknownworlds/topics/win_7_bsods_getting_more_and_more_frequent_164_169" target="_blank">http://getsatisfaction.com/unknownworlds/t...requent_164_169</a>

player

I'm assuming we're talking Vista\7, in which case I highly doubt NS2 has any part in this. I've never seen software (running outside the kernel) be the cause of BSOD's (or similar catastrophic system failures) on these new NT-OSs. <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff557321%28v=vs.85%29.aspx" target="_blank">This</a> seems to concur with that observation. Presuming you've already updated any related drivers, try a burn-in test (Prime95 for the CPU, and Furmark for the GPU) as a starter.

Thaldarin

I'd put your processor back to its default clock speed before progressing, incase it's a bad overclock you have there.

Tig

<!--quoteo(post=1837966:date=Mar 19 2011, 05:19 PM:name=Thaldarin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thaldarin @ Mar 19 2011, 05:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1837966"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'd put your processor back to its default clock speed before progressing, incase it's a bad overclock you have there.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

that's next on the list, i just don't want that to be the solution.

Thaldarin

If you get any BSOD and you have anything overclocked, that's generally the problem. The hardware or the overclock, both are linked.

countbasie

Hasn't the BSOD been replaced with the "STOP - failure" since XP?

If the Blue Screen says "STOP" at the first line, there will be some kind of failure number at the bottom (0x000121324 or something)

Usually this number will tell you about the specific problem. I've had those failures 3 times on different PCs, and every time it was hardware-related (RAM, GPU, HD), even if it said there'd be a driver-problem.

Just post the number here.

Or is there still the real bluescreen....? Never saw this since 5 years....

Obraxis

Yeah you can still Blue-Screen Windows 7 and Vista if you try hard enough ;-)

Koruyo

only hardware failures/wrong settings.

SgtBarlow

Where did windows Vista/7 blue screen no more come from anyway?

What they said is they removed the Sound Hardware Application Layer because it was the biggest cause of blue screens through poorly written programs or corrupted audio. "You can't blue screen from audio related issues any more" is what they clamied, not "all of them are fixed"


<a href="http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/OpenAL%20Wiki/OpenAL%C2%AE%20and%20Windows%20Vista%E2%84%A2.aspx" target="_blank">http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Ope...a%E2%84%A2.aspx</a>
<a href="http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/OpenAL%20Wiki/Games.aspx" target="_blank">http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Ope...Wiki/Games.aspx</a>
<a href="http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic68283.html" target="_blank">http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic68283.html</a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_layer" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_layer</a>

Tig

lil update, i failed the prime95 64bit stress test and bsod'd. put the overclock back to 3.4 (from 3.6, originally 3.2) and the stress test lasted (i cancelled it after awhile). i'm going to run it overnight. seems like it wasn't natural selection 2's fault, it was just that since that program is cpu intensive and not optimized, it happened to trigger the bsod hardware crash. 3.4 seems to be more stable, i'll make sure i don't get anymore bsods and then close the getsatisfaction report.

Thaldarin

I win.

=]

player

Lies, I win.

Thaldarin

Multi-win!

countbasie

Just for me to learn something, does your BSOD look like that one?

<a href="http://www.betabuzznetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/BSOD-0p6b.png" target="_blank">http://www.betabuzznetwork.com/wp-content/...1/BSOD-0p6b.png</a>

Because that's the one I mean. The win98-one looked different. So I thought those new ones are called STOP-Errors..

It's not important, but I care for crap like that ^^


Edit: Wikipedia'd it. I am right. It works and looks different since NT. Hah.

Tig

<!--quoteo(post=1838287:date=Mar 21 2011, 11:43 PM:name=countbasie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (countbasie @ Mar 21 2011, 11:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1838287"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just for me to learn something, does your BSOD look like that one?

<a href="http://www.betabuzznetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/BSOD-0p6b.png" target="_blank">http://www.betabuzznetwork.com/wp-content/...1/BSOD-0p6b.png</a>

Because that's the one I mean. The win98-one looked different. So I thought those new ones are called STOP-Errors..

It's not important, but I care for crap like that ^^


Edit: Wikipedia'd it. I am right. It works and looks different since NT. Hah.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

renaming it and replacing the bluescreen with an error popup on restart is microsoft's way of hiding it. it's still the same problem.

countbasie

<!--quoteo(post=1838289:date=Mar 22 2011, 06:17 AM:name=Tig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tig @ Mar 22 2011, 06:17 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1838289"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->renaming it and replacing the bluescreen with an error popup on restart is microsoft's way of hiding it. it's still the same problem.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I know. But the STOP-Error tells you more about what the problem could be. It is blue and it stops the system for the same reasons, but it is not the BSOD - because the layout differs. And that's what I mean with "It's not important, but I care for crap like that" ;)

BTW you can turn off the auto-restart function. Then it displays a blue screen. On this screen there are the values to figure out the specific problems.

Tig

<!--quoteo(post=1838383:date=Mar 22 2011, 04:12 PM:name=countbasie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (countbasie @ Mar 22 2011, 04:12 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1838383"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I know. But the STOP-Error tells you more about what the problem could be. It is blue and it stops the system for the same reasons, but it is not the BSOD - because the layout differs. And that's what I mean with "It's not important, but I care for crap like that" ;)

BTW you can turn off the auto-restart function. Then it displays a blue screen. On this screen there are the values to figure out the specific problems.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

you can all that from the logs tho, i put all that info in the getsatisfaction link, that's how thal saw i had my chip overclocked

countbasie

<!--quoteo(post=1838491:date=Mar 23 2011, 04:46 PM:name=Tig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tig @ Mar 23 2011, 04:46 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1838491"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->you can all that from the logs tho, i put all that info in the getsatisfaction link, that's how thal saw i had my chip overclocked<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Ok, we can discuss that out if you want ;)

Thal saw that it's overclocked, but he did not see the code of the Error, because it is not in the log. He could only guess - and was right. The code would have told you that you have to search in that direction. Correct me, if I'm wrong, I don't want to die dumb.



EDIT: Now I can die as a smart person. Found the code in the log, didn't see it when I read it first. You are right, my friend.

Thaldarin

I also love my AMD Phenom II's, of which I have the same model as Tig =] I found it tempermental to overclock so didn't bother, which is a shame, but it's not like it's needed.