Natural Selection 2 News Update - Build 171 released

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  • senatesenate Join Date: 2010-11-19 Member: 75023Members
    Haven't played the game since version 169. Played last night and on a UK server (i'm from NJ, usa) with 120 ping with almost no lag !. This is kind of late but the new skulk tilting against walls, etc is awesome, +1 for immersion.
  • ArchaicArchaic Join Date: 2008-03-30 Member: 64001Members
    Stairs are unnavigable as a skulk, but i was able to turn on medium instead of ridic. awful.
  • ObraxisObraxis Subnautica Animator & Generalist, NS2 Person Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30071Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, WC 2013 - Supporter, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    I've played a number of games now, including 2 full games as comm on both side.

    Things I've noticed:

    The Game seems to be 'smoother' - more consistency with either fps or movement.

    Servers seem to be able to handle more players. Had a game of 8x8 without lag, 10x10 hit and we started to get a little. Not as bad as before.

    The mini-map works better, overall comm FPS is higher and smoother, however the comm interface on the right is still a bit messy on the UI side.

    The game crashes much more. Actually, freezes, and I have to alt-tab out to see the crash screen and submit report (do you guys actually get the reports?)

    I assume most of the issues are due to the new LUA binding layer, which should be easier to fix now that it is in.

    So, to sum it all up:

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIj-6fr2SlI#t=0m10s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIj-6fr2SlI#t=0m10s</a>

    :)
  • nirvanaXOnirvanaXO Join Date: 2010-02-26 Member: 70747Members
  • gamester_5gamester_5 Join Date: 2008-04-17 Member: 64094Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1840962:date=Apr 14 2011, 04:14 AM:name=T_RAT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (T_RAT @ Apr 14 2011, 04:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1840962"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hey All,

    Could not connect, just get the black loading screen aswell.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I had to uninstall and reinstall NS2. I would go to "Play NS2" and click it and get nothing but a black screen. I had to do a full uninstall then reinstalled and now it works.

    I hope this solves your problem.
  • kingmobkingmob Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3650Members, Constellation
    General playability improvement.

    I was able to play decently on the real map (tram) in a 4 on 4 game.
    There is still occasional hiccups but overall it was a huge improvement.

    Noticed the return of "NO SOUND" bug...lots of rifles firing then nothing.

    Played in a game where both sides were playing decently and it was frustrating that neither of us would finish.

    I did not crash but I've only had one solid play session.
    I will report more as I see it.

    I still think marine commanders NEED to communicate more.
    As an alien I can figure out what to do and going solo or in groups of 2 is fine.
  • ObraxisObraxis Subnautica Animator & Generalist, NS2 Person Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30071Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, WC 2013 - Supporter, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    Actually, I'm now also getting the 'black screen' problem. Connects, but fails to load. Says im on the server, but just sits there. Has worked before tho. Very odd.
  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1840999:date=Apr 14 2011, 12:52 PM:name=kingmob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingmob @ Apr 14 2011, 12:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1840999"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Played in a game where both sides were playing decently and it was frustrating that neither of us would finish.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This is a general result of
    1. Neither side having their 'finishing' weapons (ARCs/Onos) yet to clear out entrenched rooms
    2. Regular client crashes that can temporarily imbalance teams, but it does so almost randomly such that teams fluctuate between having many more to many less players several times during a match.
  • TheSlimTheSlim Join Date: 2005-03-05 Member: 43384Members
    I cant connect to a server. everything loads, and then it stops but the message "press F1 to to give feedback" text and the other one above it is still there. but the screen is black. anyone know whats wrong?
  • MadMakzMadMakz Join Date: 2010-12-22 Member: 75850Members
    edited April 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1841009:date=Apr 14 2011, 11:42 PM:name=TheSlim)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheSlim @ Apr 14 2011, 11:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1841009"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I cant connect to a server. everything loads, and then it stops but the message "press F1 to to give feedback" text and the other one above it is still there. but the screen is black. anyone know whats wrong?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i usually sit for about 2-5 minutes infront of that black screen till the join process is done and spawning in the lobby. (<a href="http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=805243" target="_blank">my sys.</a>)

    I've also seen a coupple of servers that seem to have a missconfiguration of their network or NS2 yet doesn't obey LAN games, wich do not allow incomming connections, correctly and still put them in the masterlist. donno about that. -> Failed to cennect to server.
  • MurphyIdiotMurphyIdiot NS2 programmer Join Date: 2008-04-17 Member: 64095Members, Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1840939:date=Apr 13 2011, 08:19 PM:name=Lorian)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lorian @ Apr 13 2011, 08:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1840939"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Uploaded the Pics of my failurelog at Imgur.

    <a href="http://imgur.com/a/Cgwco" target="_blank">Imgur link</a>

    Ok. Imgur is my friend. ^^<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Odd. It seems like there was a problem with your update. Try verifying the game cache and possibly redownloading the game.


    <!--quoteo(post=1840991:date=Apr 14 2011, 11:32 AM:name=Obraxis)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Obraxis @ Apr 14 2011, 11:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1840991"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->do you guys actually get the reports?)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    We do. They often don't have enough information for us to solve the problem but we are going to be putting more focus into fixing these sorts of problems.

    As far as the black screen problems being reported. I think it has to do with errors on the server. We are working hard on it now.
  • rada660rada660 Join Date: 2010-01-28 Member: 70342Members
    for me unplayable right now, now my binding is ###### up, A and W work fine, but... D move me left, like A, and S move me forward like W, and even if i change the binding, it no use, the binding say like in exemple ill move backward with G yet, its not even working and S still do the same thing ( mean to me that changing bind for key, does not work ) hope you guys can fix that up :)
  • knifefan.nlknifefan.nl Join Date: 2011-04-11 Member: 92485Members
    You guys got trolled. Glad I didn't installed this crap. My liver thank you for reals.
  • NurEinMenschNurEinMensch Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14056Members, Constellation
    You can really tell from their posts when someone is not oldschool.
  • LorianLorian Join Date: 2011-01-05 Member: 76290Members
    @MurphyIdiot:
    I deleted the game and downloaded it again. Now it works fine. =) Thank you!

    Game runs so much smoother!!!! GREAT PATCH UWE!!!!! Now it feels so much better playing it.
  • gamester_5gamester_5 Join Date: 2008-04-17 Member: 64094Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1841064:date=Apr 15 2011, 09:27 AM:name=Lorian)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lorian @ Apr 15 2011, 09:27 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1841064"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->@MurphyIdiot:
    I deleted the game and downloaded it again. Now it works fine. =) Thank you!

    Game runs so much smoother!!!! GREAT PATCH UWE!!!!! Now it feels so much better playing it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I really think it is something with the steam updater. I had the same problem, black screen. Then I deleted and reinstalled and it worked, but I still am crashing out in game 1-2 minutes in.
  • Pr0nPr0n Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13592Members
    <img src="http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee395/supatalka/NewBitmapImage.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    WTF do you call this bug? B171...sigh. Waiting on B172...
  • Josh86Josh86 Join Date: 2010-12-06 Member: 75513Members
    edited April 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1840939:date=Apr 13 2011, 10:19 PM:name=Lorian)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lorian @ Apr 13 2011, 10:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1840939"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Uploaded the Pics of my failurelog at Imgur.

    <a href="http://imgur.com/a/Cgwco" target="_blank">Imgur link</a>

    Ok. Imgur is my friend. ^^<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm sure imgur is easy/quick; As an alternative you could always just use the Steam screenshot feature (F12 by default), upload the images to Cloud and then post the direct link to them. Steam/Cloud kind of already does all the hosting for you, so to speak. View the images in your screenshot library and copy the hyperlink location like you would with an image from your browser.

    I haven't tried 171 mutliplayer for fear of crashing. I quickly tested a LAN game (didn't do much or even check framerate)...it seemed to run alright, no better or worse than recent builds. Taking a break from playing NS2 -- will check things when more visibly significant updates/patches come along. Best of luck, UWE.
  • KuBaNKuBaN Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8979Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1841044:date=Apr 15 2011, 02:44 AM:name=knifefan.nl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (knifefan.nl @ Apr 15 2011, 02:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1841044"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You guys got trolled. Glad I didn't installed this crap. My liver thank you for reals.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why is this ###### not banned? EVERY ONE of his posts are the same arrogant, venomous, non-constructive crap. Not one thing I've seen him say has been of any value.

    Maybe it's just me.
  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1841094:date=Apr 15 2011, 05:01 PM:name=KuBaN)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KuBaN @ Apr 15 2011, 05:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1841094"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Why is this ###### not banned? EVERY ONE of his posts are the same arrogant, venomous, non-constructive crap. Not one thing I've seen him say has been of any value.

    Maybe it's just me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    don't let it bother you. easy enough right.
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    Let what bother him? Your face?
  • KurrineKurrine Join Date: 2010-07-03 Member: 72235Members
    I found the marine clone trail bug pretty amusing.
    5 minutes into a game as an alien and then I suddenly see a trail of marines approaching me; Each dropping an assault rifle. As it came in contact with me: BOOM, Black screen, server isn't reconnectable and I cant connect to any others til a reinstall. By that point all the servers are pretty much dead empty... a shame really.. since it was running pretty okay up til then.. about the same as the last version for me, though.

    I kind of expected this from an update effecting so much of the game really though to find loads of problems right after.

    Good luck getting out the next few updates, I hope to see the resulting improvements from this new addition.
  • KuBaNKuBaN Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8979Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1841096:date=Apr 15 2011, 05:18 PM:name=DJPenguin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DJPenguin @ Apr 15 2011, 05:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1841096"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->don't let it bother you. easy enough right.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    He expresses his opinions with no regard for anyone, is it not only fair that anyone be allowed to express their opinions of him with no regard?
  • craecrae Join Date: 2005-01-30 Member: 39035Members
    >He expresses his opinions with no regard for anyone, is it not only fair that anyone be allowed to express their opinions of him with no regard?

    Fair? Yes.

    Helpful, constructive and pleasant for everybody else? No.
  • knifefan.nlknifefan.nl Join Date: 2011-04-11 Member: 92485Members
    edited April 2011
    <!--coloro:#FFA500--><span style="color:#FFA500"><!--/coloro-->I have nothing better to do with my time, so I get myself banned repeatedly.<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    edited April 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1841135:date=Apr 16 2011, 11:43 AM:name=crae)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (crae @ Apr 16 2011, 11:43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1841135"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->>He expresses his opinions with no regard for anyone, is it not only fair that anyone be allowed to express their opinions of him with no regard?

    Fair? Yes.

    Helpful, constructive and pleasant for everybody else? No.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Unhelpful to unhelpfulness, destructive of destruction, and unpleasant to unpleasantness. Balances out. In that sense, it was in fact constructive.

    Meh. knifefan.nl just thinks he's too cool. He'll grow up and realise one day that he's merely average, no more important than anyone else, no more unique than anyone else, and until then the people around him are just gonna have to ignore it or put up with it. He'll mellow out one day.
  • MOOtantMOOtant Join Date: 2010-06-25 Member: 72158Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1841102:date=Apr 15 2011, 11:13 PM:name=Kurrine)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kurrine @ Apr 15 2011, 11:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1841102"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I found the marine clone trail bug pretty amusing.
    5 minutes into a game as an alien and then I suddenly see a trail of marines approaching me; Each dropping an assault rifle. As it came in contact with me: BOOM, Black screen, server isn't reconnectable and I cant connect to any others til a reinstall. By that point all the servers are pretty much dead empty... a shame really.. since it was running pretty okay up til then.. about the same as the last version for me, though.

    I kind of expected this from an update effecting so much of the game really though to find loads of problems right after.

    Good luck getting out the next few updates, I hope to see the resulting improvements from this new addition.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    There's lot of it. I wouldn't bother to get builds 100% working as long as bugs can be found and fixed after their releases. 6 months from now there might be stability and performance but I honestly don't think any of the players are starting the game expecting more than being able to notice bugs and report them.
  • oldassgamersoldassgamers Join Date: 2011-02-02 Member: 80033Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow
    WOW SO MUCH BETTER server perfomance, now for the first time me and my friends can play on a 10 player server without having horrible lag. This is exstreme smooth now.

    Greate job guys, now we can actually play it :) KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK !!!!!!
  • ZupE891ZupE891 Join Date: 2009-06-01 Member: 67623Members
    Got laggyer for me, donno what happened.. seems to be going in the wrong direction.. i know they are trying
  • AdamaAdama Join Date: 2010-12-21 Member: 75826Members
    Anyone else having problems with this update and multiple server instances on the same machine?

    Nothing has changed in regards to configuration, but I am unable to connect to any other instance apart from the one running on 27015
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