Marines vs marines

TzarconTzarcon Join Date: 2002-02-28 Member: 259Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Who exactly would be fighting?</div>For those of you that have read my topic in the Fan-Fiction forum, you'd know that I'm writing some stuff to add to the ever-so-great NS world. One of the things I plan to have in my story is a Secret Organization yet to have a name which has secretly tried to take down the government for over 20 years. The Government knows the group exists, but tells the public this group is simply a terrorist faction. The group was formed after the Nulcear Cold War. They know of all government plots, consiraces, and things that would give anyone a chill if they knew about them. Mabye during Marine vs Marine skirmishes, It could be the TSA Marines vs The-Secret-Organization/Terrorist-Faction
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  • GreedoGreedo Bounty Hunter Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 37Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I haven't read the marine backstory in quite some time, but when I did read it, I kind of got the impression that it wouldn't be a group bent on taking down the government, but rather a secretly funded, covert, government controlled group sent to take down the TSA.  Though, I could always be wrong.
  • RobRob Unknown Enemy Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 25Members, NS1 Playtester
    More along the lines of a Mega Corp. I would think.  That's what the universe basically consists of... A plate sprinkled with scattered Mega Corps. and nations seaking fortune in space, and the TSA hinders that, so they don't like the TSA.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    some corporation that got annoyed with the TSA.
  • MartMart Origin of SUYF Join Date: 2002-02-26 Member: 248Members
    This reminds me of the constant Tetracorp/UNN tension in the System Shock Universe.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    i was too young for the first and too poor for the second  <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
  • Terawatt_99Terawatt_99 Join Date: 2002-02-09 Member: 188Members
    hey tychocellchuuu, you don't happen to go to the warpstorm forums, do you?

    edit: sorry, i couldn't spell your name <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    warpstone... doesnt ring a bell, ive frequented an insane amount of forums tho, whats it about? if you want you can make a post in the off topic forum for this.
  • Shuvit_ViperShuvit_Viper Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 62Members
    i think they are a environment saviour active group with the only goal to preserve the alien species.
  • MartMart Origin of SUYF Join Date: 2002-02-26 Member: 248Members
    Yes, protecting Xenomorphic killing machines is always high on their priorities
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    doesnt ring a bell <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
  • CyonProCyonPro Join Date: 2002-02-02 Member: 154Members
    If you guys are looking for a rival organization to use in your stories or even maps, a while back I started writing a backstory for my the map I'm currently working on.

    <b>UMO</b> - This stands for Union Military Organization, which exists as a privately-funded military presence that has a long-standing history of being the "elite of the elite" in all deep-space combat situations. It is possible that the creation of the TSA has ruffled some high-ranking feathers within the UMO. They may feel threatened by a new special combat group working inside their jurisdiction, and with the corporate funding they have, would not only have the motive, but also the means to undermine the TSA's efforts.

    Although the UMO has yet to outwardly assault the TSA's authority, there are rumors that the UMO's Reconnaisance Force, known as the <b>Infinity Group</b>, may have been deployed in several previous incidents with the intention of disturbing TSA troop movements. It is also believed that the Infinity group has plans to research, capture, and re-engineer alien specimens, in hopes of learning new fighting methods and developing new combat technologies. This would be for their own benefit, of course.

    This is only something I've developed as a side-story, but if it inspires any of you, all the better. I will also post some pics of what the UMO and Infinity troops look like this week.
  • LazysamLazysam Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 101Members
    or you could just simply go with merc's trying to get a hold of the cargo on the cargo ships right? maybe they were mistaken for hte alien force when the ships coms went silen and the tsa (tsa right?) went in expecting a aline presence only to find themselve under fire?
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    or how about a terrorist orginization that wants to make peace with the alienz?
  • CyonProCyonPro Join Date: 2002-02-02 Member: 154Members
    Somehow I don't think the aliens would accept that treaty...

    Also, the goal of a terrorist organization is to make a statement or attain a goal through the use of "terror" or scare tactics. I find it hard to see them putting their energy into making a treaty with the aliens.

    However, if they DID make a successful (however unorthodox) partnership with the aliens, their goal might be to assist the aliens in attacking the TSA.
  • LazysamLazysam Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 101Members
    hey thats not a bad idea, how about instead of terrorist than a cultist organization that worships the aliens???
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    i only said terrorists because instead of just walking up to the aliens and trying to make peace (and keep a face attached to their head) they annhilate anyone who kills the aliens, even in self defense.
  • CyonProCyonPro Join Date: 2002-02-02 Member: 154Members
    Yeah, like some kind of fanatical environmentalist group that thinks the slaughter of ANY species is wrong....including the aliens. That would make them INSTANT enemies of the TSA.
  • Shuvit_ViperShuvit_Viper Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 62Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--[Shuvit.Viper]+Mar. 24 2002,00:37--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> ([Shuvit.Viper] @ Mar. 24 2002,00:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->i think they are a environment saviour active group with the only goal to preserve the alien species.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    exactly.
  • CyonProCyonPro Join Date: 2002-02-02 Member: 154Members
    I like this idea, I think I'm going to develop it in my head a bit more...
  • pielemuispielemuis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 72Members, NS1 Playtester
    Cyon woudl you be so kind as to tell me what AMLO stands for? I forgot what the A stands for :/
  • CyonProCyonPro Join Date: 2002-02-02 Member: 154Members
    I think it's Amalgamated Malicious Labeling Organization.
  • TzarconTzarcon Join Date: 2002-02-28 Member: 259Members
    uh, your forgetting the point people.
    If we use an organization that believes in preserving the aliens/making peace with them, then it would totally be going against my story...
  • CyonProCyonPro Join Date: 2002-02-02 Member: 154Members
    I don't intend to sound hostile, but why does anybody have to conform to your story? The only story that's really official right now is the TSA backstory on the NS site, nothing else has been set in stone.

    Unless you were just joking... <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
  • TzarconTzarcon Join Date: 2002-02-28 Member: 259Members
    I know my story might not be confirmed by Jeff, but I'd still prefer that it is confirmed by other people writing backstories for their maps and such. I wouldn't like to have everyone just ignor what my story says and make whatever they want.
  • RobRob Unknown Enemy Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 25Members, NS1 Playtester
    Tzar, you're asking the impossible, and you're being pretty niave.  Now, if all the writer's came together in an "NS Writer's Guild" or some such, and ELECTED you to tell us how the story goes, it would be different.

    But we didn't, and we really don't appreciate someone trying to push us around.  Sorry to be blunt, but I don't know how else to get the point across.  We write, or map, or make art, because we like to be creative.  We don't do those things to work inside unofficial templates.

    On the ego side, what if when NS is released, everything you've done is wrong, how will that make you look?  You have to think ahead.
  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    Well if your story doesn't jive with Jeff's, then other writers and mappers won't be agreeing with your story, but rather with Jeff.

    However, just to throw my 2½¢ in... The biggest organization that would be opposing the TSA would be either hired guns or employees (read: other military types) in a BlackOps sort of situation working against the marines, due to the fact that the governement feels they gave the TSA -way- too much power. The first few run-ins with this secret organization would probably be a big shock to the TSA, as they won't be expecting it. The also would probably have no way of knowing who or what was doing this type of stuff, as the secret organization wouldn't be carrying any identifying stuff.

    However, every society has it's crackpots, and there will always be the greenpeaceers who want to save the aliens from humanity.
  • LazysamLazysam Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 101Members
    exactly, maybe the uneducated "slave" colonosits (not slave in the direct kinda but rather slaves to the economoy or monetary power as in capitalistic society) have had some kind of a child sotry or maybe a cult hears of the destruction of the world through the "children" of the god and decide to help god finish of the job,

    p.s sorry taht this is not organized what so ever but im just brain storming,

    p.s.s glad somebody likes the cultist idea, wouldnt mind some help on developing it further
  • CyonProCyonPro Join Date: 2002-02-02 Member: 154Members
    What i'm not sure about is this:

    If there does end up being a human vs. human scenario where the other faction is some eco-extremist cult or black ops group, will there be a separate but similar model for the players on this other faction? Like some kind of variant of the marine player model, with different team colors and perhaps a different style of body armor?
  • LazysamLazysam Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 101Members
    I think it would defenatly be important for the immersion effect that the oposing force (no pun intended <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->) is visually atlest different, though it would also make sense that they are equiped in a difrent fassion as well considering the fact that most "green peace" nuts dont have the acess to standard military equipement

    on another hand it could just be tha future mafia trying to get their gurby hands on the "product"
  • CyonProCyonPro Join Date: 2002-02-02 Member: 154Members
    Well I suppose if you had to give them the same equipment as the TSA marines, you could just say that the Group gets their funding from some mysterious benefactor who is sympathetic to their cause....
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