MACs automaticly weld nearby marines

swalk

<div class="IPBDescription">What do you think?</div>MACs would weld marines that have lost armor, that are inside the range of the MAC. Same range as for when automaticly building buildings.
I think it would bring a bit more depth and make the MACs an even more important target. As they have gotten a more important role in combat.
A marine should have to stand still for the MAC to be able to weld him.
After seeing that MACs are getting alot of work, I thought I'd come up with this suggestion.
I think I read somewhere that this was already planned, but I'm not entirely sure.
What do you think?

Techercizer

I like it, but the question has to be asked: Why wouldn't the marine just run to a nearby Armory? MACs are pretty fragile creatures, and Armories are cheap & sturdy.

swalk

MACs can be freely controlled by the commander, and I would like to see some good micro management with the MACs.
This would really encourage that.
And MACs are not that vulnerable when you have marines covering them.
Also spamming the map with armories is pretty lame. Armories should not give armor back. It's simply too powerful.
Advanced armory could give armor back.

Techercizer

<!--quoteo(post=1876441:date=Sep 22 2011, 07:42 PM:name=swalk)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (swalk @ Sep 22 2011, 07:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1876441"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->MACs can be freely controlled by the commander, and I would like to see some good micro management with the MACs.
This would really encourage that.
And MACs are not that vulnerable when you have marines covering them.
Also spamming the map with armories is pretty lame. Armories should not give armor back. It's simply too powerful.
Advanced armory could give armor back.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I support nerfing armory spam, then countering the sudden lack of armor repair by allowing MACs to auto-weld Marines.

Kurrine

It might be fine if they get the MAC's collision right. Right now if they did that you'd be getting stuck inside macs all the time, so it'd be horrible, though, personally I'd just rather MACs auto repaired structures and not Marines, too many opportunities for the MAC to automatically get in your way with this.

SkymanderX

i love this idea. the part i hate most about marine comming is managing the macs. it would be cool to see macs auto repair

SmellyTerror

To stop the dopey things bumping into people and stuff, perhaps require the marine to "use" the MAC? As in, holding e while facing it will make it weld you, and that puts it on hold (commander orders are queued, so it won't wander off while you're using it).

That'd also mean you couldn't fight while being welded.

Kalabalana

I'd like it if MACs had some sort of patrol mode, where when enabled, they repair/build everything within a set radius. Would free up a huge amount of commander time, and remove an aspect of the game considered by many to be a chore.

I also believe MAC repair speed needs to be reduced, they repair too fast. For example last night a MAC was repairing an armory almost as fast as I was damaging it as a melee 3 + swarm lerk. MACs should not have the ability to directly compete with real players in this regard.

swalk

<!--quoteo(post=1876515:date=Sep 23 2011, 01:30 PM:name=Kalabalana)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kalabalana @ Sep 23 2011, 01:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1876515"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'd like it if MACs had some sort of patrol mode, where when enabled, they repair/build everything within a set radius. Would free up a huge amount of commander time, and remove an aspect of the game considered by many to be a chore.

I also believe MAC repair speed needs to be reduced, they repair too fast. For example last night a MAC was repairing an armory almost as fast as I was damaging it as a melee 3 + swarm lerk. MACs should not have the ability to directly compete with real players in this regard.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree that MACs repair rate is way too fast. It should be about the same as their building rate, which is alot slower than marines.
And alot slower than one alien can damage.

Smasher

I'd rather have marines with welders weld each other, much more teamwork and fun in that imo.

Techercizer

<!--quoteo(post=1876598:date=Sep 23 2011, 03:38 PM:name=Smasher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Smasher @ Sep 23 2011, 03:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1876598"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'd rather have marines with welders weld each other, much more teamwork and fun in that imo.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why not both? Marine welding is way quicker and can happen without the need to escort a fragile NPC, and MAC welding leaves defending marines free to concentrate on suppressing the enemy.

Smasher

<!--quoteo(post=1876599:date=Sep 23 2011, 04:41 PM:name=Techercizer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Techercizer @ Sep 23 2011, 04:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1876599"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->MAC welding leaves defending marines free to concentrate on suppressing the enemy.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Exactly, there has to be a tradeoff. Imagine HA running around, each with 1-3 NPC auto-repairers..
It takes away from the tactical perspective.

Kalabalana

I don't think marines welding each either is a core game dynamic, and if it is, hire me and I will make your game better.

swalk

<!--quoteo(post=1876598:date=Sep 23 2011, 08:38 PM:name=Smasher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Smasher @ Sep 23 2011, 08:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1876598"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'd rather have marines with welders weld each other, much more teamwork and fun in that imo.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree that marines welding each other is also an important part of the game. We can easily have both, it would take some time for the MACs to repair you, a teammate will speed up the process.
But I think this would really add to the usage of MACs in combat.
It just need to be easier to make an attack move with them, and this above.
It will take them out of the bases, and into the battlefield.
Aliens can already take MACs down pretty quick. And it would also make bilebomb used more in combat. Bilebomb needs a buff, btw.