<!--quoteo(post=1888685:date=Dec 6 2011, 07:24 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Dec 6 2011, 07:24 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1888685"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No no no no. I didn't mean to turn this into an e-penis waving contest. I meant to provide an example that illustrates the merits of shield blocking.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Play a Breton with some points in alteration and you won't need the shield perk that reduces magic damage.
Yeah but you'll want that perk anyway, along with magic resist on your shield. For someone in heavy armour and a shield with high ranks in both, physical damage just isn't an issue compared to magical damage.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU PEOPLE is that once you can tank lots of physical damage, you should stop focusing on that and start working on magic resist instead.
Are there any must-have mods for this yet? ie: a redone GUI or such? I know there we a few such things for Fallout 3 on the PC that made it much better. The gui may be fine already, but I just got the game (finally) and figured I would check before diving in.
<!--quoteo(post=1888603:date=Dec 5 2011, 11:03 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Dec 5 2011, 11:03 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1888603"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->All I can tell you is that those "shields block X% more damage" enchantments become superfluous at high levels. After abandoning my first character I played a classic sowrd & board heavy armour fighter. By the time I retired her she was past level 40, full daedric, ebony shield, armour skill at 87 or so and block at 100. The only time she takes physical damage of any consequence is when she isn't blocking. Blocking basically renders her impervious to any physical attack. You'll want some kind of magic resist on your shield instead, because even with the 50% magic resist while blocking perk, magic damage is still far more likely to be an issue than physical damage.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Or, find the atronach stone, which makes you absorb 50% of magic cast at you and buffs your magicka bar by about 50 points.
Ideal for non-magic users who want more magic defence and the ability to cast higher level buffs before battle.
<!--quoteo(post=1888753:date=Dec 7 2011, 03:30 AM:name=Comprox)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Comprox @ Dec 7 2011, 03:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1888753"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Are there any must-have mods for this yet? ie: a redone GUI or such? I know there we a few such things for Fallout 3 on the PC that made it much better. The gui may be fine already, but I just got the game (finally) and figured I would check before diving in.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> there's a redone inventory gui which is no longer sorting stuff alphabeticaly but its even more confusing that way. must have mod for now is the nicer faces mod which removes ugly compression artifacts on the normal maps of all races (chin and noses). a 4gb ram mod which allows skyrim to see more than 2 gb of ram, everything else is just gimmicky right now or changes the game to much. i might consider the slower leveling mod as well. but other than that there isnt much out yet, everyone's waiting for the mod tools
This mod makes common black wolves look like timber wolves and ice wolves look like white wolves. <a href="http://www.skyrimnex...ile.php?id=1292" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...ile.php?id=1292</a>
Skyrim Flora Overhaul is a WIP mod project dedicated to overhauling the Skyrim flora. <a href="http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=141" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=141</a>
<!--quoteo(post=1888816:date=Dec 7 2011, 07:50 AM:name=Tykjen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tykjen @ Dec 7 2011, 07:50 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1888816"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This mod makes common black wolves look like timber wolves and ice wolves look like white wolves. <a href="http://www.skyrimnex...ile.php?id=1292" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...ile.php?id=1292</a>
And last but not least, get the program that can force Skyrim to use MORE than 2 gigabytes of RAM. Makes the game run smooth at all times.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
just mentioning it , all these links arent working
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<!--quoteo(post=1888816:date=Dec 6 2011, 10:50 PM:name=Tykjen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tykjen @ Dec 6 2011, 10:50 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1888816"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This mod makes common black wolves look like timber wolves and ice wolves look like white wolves. <a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1292" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...ile.php?id=1292</a>
Skyrim Flora Overhaul is a WIP mod project dedicated to overhauling the Skyrim flora. <a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=141" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=141</a>
HD Furniture and barrels <a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=238" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=238</a>
NO NPC Greetings <a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=746" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=746</a>
And last but not least, get the program that can force Skyrim to use MORE than 2 gigabytes of RAM. Makes the game run smooth at all times.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Fixed after some googling :)
The <a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=667" target="_blank">QD Inventory mod</a> might also be worth checking out. I haven't tried it myself yet.
IMO Essentials while holding back on the graphical mods:
No blocky faces or similar mods mentioned earlier.
Faster Horses (They are just too damn slow with addition to limited sprint): <a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=934" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=934</a>
QD Inventory as mentioned before.
Force Skyrim to use 4gb (Mod didn't work for me after latest patch atm): <a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1013" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1013</a> Workaround: <a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=134" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=134</a>
Music enhancement (not replacement): <a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1386#content" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file....id=1386#content</a> "the main goal of this mod is to extend the original sound track of Skyrim and not to replace it like other mods. Music is now way less looped and more immersive"
Adds thunder and lightning: <a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1702" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1702</a>
SKSE (SKyrim Script Extender, expect a lot of mods that require it): <a href="http://skse.silverlock.org/download/skse_1_02_01.7z" target="_blank">http://skse.silverlock.org/download/skse_1_02_01.7z</a>
Prev mentioned glowing oreveins.
Killable children (Because): <a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=774" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=774</a>
Not this again. There's so many options I'm paralysed by choice. Why can't there be one big open source mod that everyone contributes to? Not all these piecemeal monstrocities hosted on crappy websites overflowing with ads and poor version control.
Not this again. There's so many options I'm paralysed by choice. Why can't there be one big open source mod that everyone contributes to? Not all these piecemeal monstrocities hosted on crappy websites overflowing with ads and poor version control.
Aargh!
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I'm with you on this one... I tried installing some of those mods but everytime I feel like there's gotta be something better than what I'm installing and I stop...
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Curse are scumbags. Blizzard told everyone that they couldn't charge for addons so they decided to charge for the program that you use to get addons and then make it the most bloated ###### imaginable.
<!--quoteo(post=1889421:date=Dec 9 2011, 05:40 PM:name=konata)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (konata @ Dec 9 2011, 05:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1889421"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Curse has always been good to me. Never had any sort of virus in the years I've used it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They have absolutely terrible reliability problems with the minecraft websites, they give errors almost more often than they load pages.
<!--quoteo(post=1889644:date=Dec 10 2011, 06:49 PM:name=Monkfish)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Monkfish @ Dec 10 2011, 06:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1889644"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Curse are scumbags. Blizzard told everyone that they couldn't charge for addons so they decided to charge for the program that you use to get addons and then make it the most bloated ###### imaginable.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> You mean they decided to charge for the premium version of the program, but the basic is for free? At least get your complaints accurate.
<!--quoteo(post=1889644:date=Dec 10 2011, 08:49 PM:name=Monkfish)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Monkfish @ Dec 10 2011, 08:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1889644"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Curse are scumbags. Blizzard told everyone that they couldn't charge for addons so they decided to charge for the program that you use to get addons and then make it the most bloated ###### imaginable.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1885141:date=Nov 16 2011, 10:59 AM:name=Zaggy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zaggy @ Nov 16 2011, 10:59 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1885141"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->how are you guys faring?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Short: Boring, skyrim feels like oblivion 1.5 Winter edition :(
Long: The game is the typical example how all the games are going: casual. Starting with<b> stupid A.I. </b>of everyone (npc and aliens) which can not jump on a rock or could attack me if im on a little higher plattform such as a simple bed... after 4 years after oblivion, they could improve it. also they have always like ONE waypoint, they run infront to you instead of using a tactic...specialy in groups...they just walk in a line and die like chickens in a line the fighting system is weird too, way better then like in assassins creed which i HATE but still feels weird.
<b>the quests </b> feels most time like world of warcraft...go to bla and search for X or kill Y...not a big background story. there some good quests but there so quick done...maybe they want them short, because not to stress the brain cell of casual gamer.
<b>The difficult</b>, ITS WAY TO EASY! this video explain good, how games of today are and how skyrim feel: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W1ZtBCpo0eU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...p;v=W1ZtBCpo0eU</a> the world is sterile, everything feels like "placed" not grown...hard to explain. You can realy good see how bethesda goes wrong after morrowind. Morrowind was core and very nice, the world was exciting and very diffrent, a lot to explore and see. Oblivon was way more casual, you have citys which are like clones of other, every guard is the same, the world is computer generated, but the 24hours A.I. was nice, thats the only reason i liked oblivion. Skyrim is casual par excellence, a lot of stuff is copy and paste, the world is handmade but invisible walls block you...even on places where IT HAS NOT TO BE! the a.i. is more stupid and very calculable then it was in oblivion, i realy have the feeling that npcs did a lot more in oblivion. also i hate that like NO npcs explore the world and the MOST ANNYOING PART immortal NPCS = EPIC FAIL IN BALANCING. Sure some npcs was in oblivion immortal too but i don't liked too.
As far i can say, in my mind, skyrim is way more overhyped and is just a nice little rpg, but not more, i had more fun terraria then with skyrim. In my opinion a rpg need a bit adventure feeling, i want explore the world and see interesting things. A game should not be 100% realistic and skyrim goes that way with the world, its just boring...where is the creativity like in morrowind? I hope you get my point... Also i hope the next bethesda game is more creative.
I'm a bit torn on the whole invulnerable NPCs thing. On one hand I want the world to be my plaything - if the jarl of Dawnstar pisses me off because he's a humongous ######, I want to have the option to sneak into the hall at night and quietly murder him while he sleeps. But on the other hand, it's a real downer to be unable to complete an interesting quest because an NPC essential to it died many hours ago (making reloading an older save a non-option). What's the best way to solve this? I don't know really.
In Morrowind, everything and everyone could be killed, but if you killed an NPC essential to the main plot line it gave you a message about it (the thread of prophecy has been severed) so you could either reload a savegame or go ahead if you were prepared to deal with the consequences. But it was still possible to unknowingly break a lot of other quests by getting important NPCs killed. Usually this wasn't a problem if you didn't go around indiscriminately murdering everyone though, but still...
There's no perfect solution to this problem I think.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Starting with stupid A.I. of everyone (npc and aliens) which can not jump on a rock or could attack me if im on a little higher plattform such as a simple bed... after 4 years after oblivion, they could improve it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
First off, aliens? What? Are you playing the same game I'm playing? Second, I've seen at least SOME smart behavior. For instance, mages will try to take cover to let their magicka regenerate if they run out. I didn't really notice this is my first playthrough because I played a melee fighter who would close the distance quickly, but it's very noticeable for my archer. I'll grant that the AI in this game isn't fantastic, but it's not quite dumb as bread either. More like dumb as mold. Which is still smart enough to exploit bread by growing on it.
Nice video you linked there... ok a friend of mine made that but it has nothing to do with RPGs... the creator of that video is quite a fan of skyrim.
The biggest problem I have with skyrim is the constant desire to powerlevel EVERYTHING. I want daedric armor NOW. Why is my archery skill not 100 NOW?! etc.
If you just play the game and don't mind those things, it's a fantastic game.
On the other hand... you can literally powerlevel everything in a couple of minutes... heavy armor? Complete a couple of companion quests so you are the leader, go to the heavy armor guy and tell him to follow you, then train heavy armor, ask him to trade things and take back your gold.
No daedric arrows around? Go to the fletcher in solitude, buy the one they have there (you may need to reload sometimes to get it to spawn), then go to any archer practicing his craft and pickpocket any other arrows from their inventory, but leave them the daedric arrow. The next day, when they've woken up and start shoting the crap out of those targets, you simply pick up those wonderful daedric arrows they so willingly leave for you.
About the AI, yeah it's not the best in the world when you're playing melee, but ranged they are quite good. They dodge arrows and fireballs and get to cover etc. Also, we should stop calling it AI and start calling it by what it really is.... advanced flowcharts.
<!--quoteo(post=1889904:date=Dec 12 2011, 09:09 AM:name=Panigg)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Panigg @ Dec 12 2011, 09:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1889904"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><arrow in the knee video><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That was excellent! The arrow in the knee meme has been all over the internets, getting tired. I understood the joke is that the former Elder Scrolls games had armor covering the knees whereas the armor in Skyrim does not cover the knees?
As for the bad AI and the static environments, yes that hasn't changed too much. Even with a world filled to the brim with stories, quests and foes to slay, the way of playing is old and overly simplified. Having finished most of the big quests I'm wondering what to do next, start over with a new character (pure rogue, pure mage?) or to continue with my current and master ALL the things.
Has anyone tried any cool mods? I've read about dragonriding, playing as a dragon, crafting mods and the such, are they any good?
<!--quoteo(post=1889824:date=Dec 11 2011, 10:47 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Dec 11 2011, 10:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1889824"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In Morrowind, everything and everyone could be killed, but if you killed an NPC essential to the main plot line it gave you a message about it (the thread of prophecy has been severed) so you could either reload a savegame or go ahead if you were prepared to deal with the consequences. But it was still possible to unknowingly break a lot of other quests by getting important NPCs killed. Usually this wasn't a problem if you didn't go around indiscriminately murdering everyone though, but still...
There's no perfect solution to this problem I think.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> In morrowind there was a way better way...
And there is a perfect solution.
1.a spell which start a quest, you can reanimate dead npcs, this would do the job perfect. 2.autosave + load a game = problem solved In skyrim you don't have the choice to do that...if you realy hate some npcs or he is attacking you because you steal something, you can do nothing. You can beat every a** in the game, except the one npc which is immortal. Like i said, morrowind was the better rpg because it wasn't casual, it was made for the real gamer. In skyrim its like bethesda take your hand and slaps it if you are doing it wrong...I WANT DO WHAT I WANT DO and if i kill a important npcs i load or live with it...
<!--quoteo(post=1889824:date=Dec 11 2011, 10:47 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Dec 11 2011, 10:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1889824"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->First off, aliens? What? Are you playing the same game I'm playing?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> That happend if you play ns2 before you write about skyrim :P sure i mean "animals"...not aliens but is it realy that hard to guess and to wrote that ... things you did? dude.
<!--quoteo(post=1889824:date=Dec 11 2011, 10:47 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Dec 11 2011, 10:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1889824"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Second, I've seen at least SOME smart behavior. For instance, mages will try to take cover to let their magicka regenerate if they run out. I didn't really notice this is my first playthrough because I played a melee fighter who would close the distance quickly, but it's very noticeable for my archer. I'll grant that the AI in this game isn't fantastic, but it's not quite dumb as bread either. More like dumb as mold. Which is still smart enough to exploit bread by growing on it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Nope, mages are the same stupid, never saw them doing smart behaviors. Sure, maybe they run left and right but i have just to wait and they come...even if they see me or my "follower". And no, the ai is dumb, to bad i have deleted my recorded videos of the first hour of skyrim, but my harddrive was going to explode with like 60gb of data (damn you fraps!).
A good old example is stalker, i mean its a long time ago, but i remember a situations (happend often) where i was shooting from near a tree and there was like 5 soldiers after some seconds it was just 3, 3 seconds later i was dead, because the two soldiers come from left and right, they circle me. Or there a lot of good games where you can see a very good ai, its not impossible. But i am SURE the AI is that stupid because of casual consoles, because you can not act fast like mouse and keyboard with a controller. Or the fact that a npcs say like "I HATE YOU SO MUCH" and in the next second the npcs say "oh hello, i missed you"...sure its the radiant ai, but it feels just stupid. In oblivion i could say "oh ok i don't care, its the first amazing npcs 24hours ai i ever saw, no rpg has npcs with day and night cycle like eating, sleeping and on. But in skyrim its like the exact same. They said like if there is a family with a store and you murder the dad, the child will maybe revenge her dad or hold the store. But the child is always in the store, so just the dad will be removed...there is like nothing changed. There so much npcs which hold a lot of damage, this example is a good one: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=d__pP_UVxXs#t=46s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe..._pP_UVxXs#t=46s</a> Why he don't react? Why he don't do anything? Another video where the npcs act like fools <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nI25sJKQw4I#t=11s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...25sJKQw4I#t=11s</a> I mean the quest was nice and a surprise for me ok, but the dumb npcs are destroying the fun a lot. And finaly the stupid creatures in the world: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuovk3bZ1zU&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuovk3bZ1zU...feature=related</a> If you think its not often, i can say this happend with a animal in the first minutes after i come out the dungeon with the guard... another great moment: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3kSmdX9gJA&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3kSmdX9gJA...feature=related</a>
Maybe all these reactions are bugs, but if i load a saved game and go like into water...i can kill every npcs which has only melee attacks. they don't know how to reach me...why not just run away or hide and wait for me or something?
@Panigg yes typo. But the video was shown what i mean, the games of today are to easy. I realy had no challenge in skyrim. Also the world is to "sterile" there is like not much fantasy in it. I mean i found ships underwater, but it was cheap...no dead people or funny thing, idk how to explain but the game gives no "wow" feeling. Everything is so "normal". a "good" example is world of warcraft, its a mmorpg but if you explore the world, you always see nice and very creative places, thats what i miss in skyrim. Everything is like grey full of snow (i love snow in real life but in skyrim its boring). I realy start to love the game, but everytime after i start the game and going to explore the world, nothing happend, nothing nice was shown. <b>Maybe i expect to much from skyrim and im just disappointed because its like oblivion after all these years.</b> Trust me, i hate the feeling i have for skyrim, i love rpgs, i realy wait and count the days for skyrim because all these other games are mostly shooters, racing games or other boring games. But skyrim disappointed me.
And yes you are right on distance fight, they shoot very well, but thats not a big deal, the most important is melee fight if you know what i mean.
p.s. i guess the peferct game for me would be 'morrowinds world' with 'dark souls (demon souls)' 'fighting system' and 'creature design' / ai.
I agree with you on the whole melee thing. Skyrim does not make you need skill to win melee fights.
At least for ranged (bow, magic) you need to aim/dodge.
I don't know how to fix that or make it better in a different game, but a good start would be the ability to actually dodge things. Just put in a dodge button and if you press that + a directional key you would dodge in that direction.
A second way would be that block only lasts a couple of seconds or drains stamina and it doesn't block any damage, when your stamina is gone, something like that.
I was also thinking of ways to make melee combat more fun, but with only mouse and keyboard or a controler I can't think of many ways to do that. Something like a "mouse gesture melee combat mod" could work, where you "draw" shapes with your mouse and the according strike or even skills are used. You could even do things like 360 spins or disarm moves done only with the mouse.
Guess it is a good idea in theory but hard to do practically and thats why nobody did it yet.
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Play a Breton with some points in alteration and you won't need the shield perk that reduces magic damage.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU PEOPLE is that once you can tank lots of physical damage, you should stop focusing on that and start working on magic resist instead.
You'll want some kind of magic resist on your shield instead, because even with the 50% magic resist while blocking perk, magic damage is still far more likely to be an issue than physical damage.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Or, find the atronach stone, which makes you absorb 50% of magic cast at you and buffs your magicka bar by about 50 points.
Ideal for non-magic users who want more magic defence and the ability to cast higher level buffs before battle.
there's a redone inventory gui which is no longer sorting stuff alphabeticaly but its even more confusing that way. must have mod for now is the nicer faces mod which removes ugly compression artifacts on the normal maps of all races (chin and noses). a 4gb ram mod which allows skyrim to see more than 2 gb of ram, everything else is just gimmicky right now or changes the game to much. i might consider the slower leveling mod as well. but other than that there isnt much out yet, everyone's waiting for the mod tools
<a href="http://www.skyrimnex...ile.php?id=1292" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...ile.php?id=1292</a>
Skyrim Flora Overhaul is a WIP mod project dedicated to overhauling the Skyrim flora.
<a href="http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=141" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=141</a>
Skyrim HD - 2K Textures
<a href="http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=607" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=607</a>
Glowing Ore Veins
<a href="http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=193" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=193</a>
Enhanced Night Skyrim
<a href="http://www.skyrimnex.../file.php?id=85" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex.../file.php?id=85</a>
Enhanced Horse skins
<a href="http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=596" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=596</a>
HD Furniture and barrels
<a href="http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=238" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=238</a>
NO NPC Greetings
<a href="http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=746" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=746</a>
And last but not least, get the program that can force Skyrim to use MORE than 2 gigabytes of RAM. Makes the game run smooth at all times.
<a href="http://www.skyrimnex...ile.php?id=1292" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...ile.php?id=1292</a>
And last but not least, get the program that can force Skyrim to use MORE than 2 gigabytes of RAM. Makes the game run smooth at all times.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
just mentioning it , all these links arent working
just watched my flatmate partner up with someone in a hall where he is thane, get some master training, ask to trade and take his gold back
OLOLOLOLOL
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1292" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...ile.php?id=1292</a>
Skyrim Flora Overhaul is a WIP mod project dedicated to overhauling the Skyrim flora.
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=141" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=141</a>
Skyrim HD - 2K Textures
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=607" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=607</a>
Glowing Ore Veins
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=193" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=193</a>
Enhanced Night Skyrim
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=85" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex.../file.php?id=85</a>
Enhanced Horse skins
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=596" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=596</a>
HD Furniture and barrels
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=238" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=238</a>
NO NPC Greetings
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=746" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnex...file.php?id=746</a>
And last but not least, get the program that can force Skyrim to use MORE than 2 gigabytes of RAM. Makes the game run smooth at all times.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Fixed after some googling :)
No blocky faces or similar mods mentioned earlier.
Faster Horses (They are just too damn slow with addition to limited sprint):
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=934" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=934</a>
QD Inventory as mentioned before.
Force Skyrim to use 4gb (Mod didn't work for me after latest patch atm):
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1013" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1013</a>
Workaround: <a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=134" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=134</a>
Music enhancement (not replacement):
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1386#content" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file....id=1386#content</a>
"the main goal of this mod is to extend the original sound track of Skyrim and not to replace it like other mods. Music is now way less looped and more immersive"
Adds thunder and lightning:
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1702" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1702</a>
SKSE (SKyrim Script Extender, expect a lot of mods that require it):
<a href="http://skse.silverlock.org/download/skse_1_02_01.7z" target="_blank">http://skse.silverlock.org/download/skse_1_02_01.7z</a>
Prev mentioned glowing oreveins.
Killable children (Because):
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=774" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=774</a>
Skip Bethesda intro:
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=100" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=100</a>
Prev mentioned "Enhanced Nightsky":
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=85" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=85</a>
Enhanced distant terrain (supposedly no performance drop):
<a href="http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1598" target="_blank">http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1598</a>
Not this again. There's so many options I'm paralysed by choice. Why can't there be one big open source mod that everyone contributes to? Not all these piecemeal monstrocities hosted on crappy websites overflowing with ads and poor version control.
Aargh!
--Scythe--
Not this again. There's so many options I'm paralysed by choice. Why can't there be one big open source mod that everyone contributes to? Not all these piecemeal monstrocities hosted on crappy websites overflowing with ads and poor version control.
Aargh!
--Scythe--<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm with you on this one... I tried installing some of those mods but everytime I feel like there's gotta be something better than what I'm installing and I stop...
--Scythe--
They have absolutely terrible reliability problems with the minecraft websites, they give errors almost more often than they load pages.
<div align='center'><center><object width="450" height="356"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/fAxpAU3qigU"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/fAxpAU3qigU" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="450" height="356"></embed></object></center>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAxpAU3qigU" target="_blank">Saving Roggvir</a></div>
Fresh Fish. FRESH FISH!
You mean they decided to charge for the premium version of the program, but the basic is for free? At least get your complaints accurate.
It's free.
Are you really that dumb?
Short: Boring, skyrim feels like oblivion 1.5 Winter edition :(
Long:
The game is the typical example how all the games are going: casual.
Starting with<b> stupid A.I. </b>of everyone (npc and aliens) which can not jump on a rock or could attack me if im on a little higher plattform such as a simple bed...
after 4 years after oblivion, they could improve it.
also they have always like ONE waypoint, they run infront to you instead of using a tactic...specialy in groups...they just walk in a line and die like chickens in a line
the fighting system is weird too, way better then like in assassins creed which i HATE but still feels weird.
<b>the quests </b> feels most time like world of warcraft...go to bla and search for X or kill Y...not a big background story.
there some good quests but there so quick done...maybe they want them short, because not to stress the brain cell of casual gamer.
<b>The difficult</b>, ITS WAY TO EASY!
this video explain good, how games of today are and how skyrim feel:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W1ZtBCpo0eU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...p;v=W1ZtBCpo0eU</a>
the world is sterile, everything feels like "placed" not grown...hard to explain.
You can realy good see how bethesda goes wrong after morrowind.
Morrowind was core and very nice, the world was exciting and very diffrent, a lot to explore and see.
Oblivon was way more casual, you have citys which are like clones of other, every guard is the same, the world is computer generated, but the 24hours A.I. was nice, thats the only reason i liked oblivion.
Skyrim is casual par excellence, a lot of stuff is copy and paste, the world is handmade but invisible walls block you...even on places where IT HAS NOT TO BE!
the a.i. is more stupid and very calculable then it was in oblivion, i realy have the feeling that npcs did a lot more in oblivion.
also i hate that like NO npcs explore the world and the MOST ANNYOING PART immortal NPCS = EPIC FAIL IN BALANCING.
Sure some npcs was in oblivion immortal too but i don't liked too.
As far i can say, in my mind, skyrim is way more overhyped and is just a nice little rpg, but not more, i had more fun terraria then with skyrim.
In my opinion a rpg need a bit adventure feeling, i want explore the world and see interesting things.
A game should not be 100% realistic and skyrim goes that way with the world, its just boring...where is the creativity like in morrowind?
I hope you get my point...
Also i hope the next bethesda game is more creative.
In Morrowind, everything and everyone could be killed, but if you killed an NPC essential to the main plot line it gave you a message about it (the thread of prophecy has been severed) so you could either reload a savegame or go ahead if you were prepared to deal with the consequences. But it was still possible to unknowingly break a lot of other quests by getting important NPCs killed. Usually this wasn't a problem if you didn't go around indiscriminately murdering everyone though, but still...
There's no perfect solution to this problem I think.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Starting with stupid A.I. of everyone (npc and aliens) which can not jump on a rock or could attack me if im on a little higher plattform such as a simple bed...
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First off, aliens? What? Are you playing the same game I'm playing?
Second, I've seen at least SOME smart behavior. For instance, mages will try to take cover to let their magicka regenerate if they run out. I didn't really notice this is my first playthrough because I played a melee fighter who would close the distance quickly, but it's very noticeable for my archer.
I'll grant that the AI in this game isn't fantastic, but it's not quite dumb as bread either. More like dumb as mold. Which is still smart enough to exploit bread by growing on it.
Nice video you linked there... ok a friend of mine made that but it has nothing to do with RPGs... the creator of that video is quite a fan of skyrim.
The biggest problem I have with skyrim is the constant desire to powerlevel EVERYTHING. I want daedric armor NOW. Why is my archery skill not 100 NOW?! etc.
If you just play the game and don't mind those things, it's a fantastic game.
On the other hand... you can literally powerlevel everything in a couple of minutes... heavy armor? Complete a couple of companion quests so you are the leader, go to the heavy armor guy and tell him to follow you, then train heavy armor, ask him to trade things and take back your gold.
No daedric arrows around? Go to the fletcher in solitude, buy the one they have there (you may need to reload sometimes to get it to spawn), then go to any archer practicing his craft and pickpocket any other arrows from their inventory, but leave them the daedric arrow. The next day, when they've woken up and start shoting the crap out of those targets, you simply pick up those wonderful daedric arrows they so willingly leave for you.
About the AI, yeah it's not the best in the world when you're playing melee, but ranged they are quite good. They dodge arrows and fireballs and get to cover etc. Also, we should stop calling it AI and start calling it by what it really is.... advanced flowcharts.
That was excellent!
The arrow in the knee meme has been all over the internets, getting tired.
I understood the joke is that the former Elder Scrolls games had armor covering the knees whereas the armor in Skyrim does not cover the knees?
As for the bad AI and the static environments, yes that hasn't changed too much.
Even with a world filled to the brim with stories, quests and foes to slay, the way of playing is old and overly simplified.
Having finished most of the big quests I'm wondering what to do next, start over with a new character (pure rogue, pure mage?) or to continue with my current and master ALL the things.
Has anyone tried any cool mods? I've read about dragonriding, playing as a dragon, crafting mods and the such, are they any good?
Although what makes that video special for me, is how he reminds himself he's being unprofessional :D
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In morrowind there was a way better way...
And there is a perfect solution.
1.a spell which start a quest, you can reanimate dead npcs, this would do the job perfect.
2.autosave + load a game = problem solved
In skyrim you don't have the choice to do that...if you realy hate some npcs or he is attacking you because you steal something, you can do nothing.
You can beat every a** in the game, except the one npc which is immortal.
Like i said, morrowind was the better rpg because it wasn't casual, it was made for the real gamer.
In skyrim its like bethesda take your hand and slaps it if you are doing it wrong...I WANT DO WHAT I WANT DO and if i kill a important npcs i load or live with it...
<!--quoteo(post=1889824:date=Dec 11 2011, 10:47 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Dec 11 2011, 10:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1889824"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->First off, aliens? What? Are you playing the same game I'm playing?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That happend if you play ns2 before you write about skyrim :P
sure i mean "animals"...not aliens but is it realy that hard to guess and to wrote that ... things you did? dude.
<!--quoteo(post=1889824:date=Dec 11 2011, 10:47 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Dec 11 2011, 10:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1889824"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Second, I've seen at least SOME smart behavior. For instance, mages will try to take cover to let their magicka regenerate if they run out. I didn't really notice this is my first playthrough because I played a melee fighter who would close the distance quickly, but it's very noticeable for my archer.
I'll grant that the AI in this game isn't fantastic, but it's not quite dumb as bread either. More like dumb as mold. Which is still smart enough to exploit bread by growing on it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nope, mages are the same stupid, never saw them doing smart behaviors.
Sure, maybe they run left and right but i have just to wait and they come...even if they see me or my "follower".
And no, the ai is dumb, to bad i have deleted my recorded videos of the first hour of skyrim, but my harddrive was going to explode with like 60gb of data (damn you fraps!).
A good old example is stalker, i mean its a long time ago, but i remember a situations (happend often) where i was shooting from near a tree and there was like 5 soldiers after some seconds it was just 3, 3 seconds later i was dead, because the two soldiers come from left and right, they circle me.
Or there a lot of good games where you can see a very good ai, its not impossible.
But i am SURE the AI is that stupid because of casual consoles, because you can not act fast like mouse and keyboard with a controller.
Or the fact that a npcs say like "I HATE YOU SO MUCH" and in the next second the npcs say "oh hello, i missed you"...sure its the radiant ai, but it feels just stupid.
In oblivion i could say "oh ok i don't care, its the first amazing npcs 24hours ai i ever saw, no rpg has npcs with day and night cycle like eating, sleeping and on.
But in skyrim its like the exact same.
They said like if there is a family with a store and you murder the dad, the child will maybe revenge her dad or hold the store.
But the child is always in the store, so just the dad will be removed...there is like nothing changed.
There so much npcs which hold a lot of damage, this example is a good one:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=d__pP_UVxXs#t=46s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe..._pP_UVxXs#t=46s</a>
Why he don't react?
Why he don't do anything?
Another video where the npcs act like fools
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nI25sJKQw4I#t=11s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...25sJKQw4I#t=11s</a>
I mean the quest was nice and a surprise for me ok, but the dumb npcs are destroying the fun a lot.
And finaly the stupid creatures in the world:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuovk3bZ1zU&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuovk3bZ1zU...feature=related</a>
If you think its not often, i can say this happend with a animal in the first minutes after i come out the dungeon with the guard...
another great moment:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3kSmdX9gJA&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3kSmdX9gJA...feature=related</a>
Maybe all these reactions are bugs, but if i load a saved game and go like into water...i can kill every npcs which has only melee attacks.
they don't know how to reach me...why not just run away or hide and wait for me or something?
@Panigg
yes typo.
But the video was shown what i mean, the games of today are to easy.
I realy had no challenge in skyrim.
Also the world is to "sterile" there is like not much fantasy in it.
I mean i found ships underwater, but it was cheap...no dead people or funny thing, idk how to explain but the game gives no "wow" feeling.
Everything is so "normal".
a "good" example is world of warcraft, its a mmorpg but if you explore the world, you always see nice and very creative places, thats what i miss in skyrim.
Everything is like grey full of snow (i love snow in real life but in skyrim its boring).
I realy start to love the game, but everytime after i start the game and going to explore the world, nothing happend, nothing nice was shown.
<b>Maybe i expect to much from skyrim and im just disappointed because its like oblivion after all these years.</b>
Trust me, i hate the feeling i have for skyrim, i love rpgs, i realy wait and count the days for skyrim because all these other games are mostly shooters, racing games or other boring games.
But skyrim disappointed me.
And yes you are right on distance fight, they shoot very well, but thats not a big deal, the most important is melee fight if you know what i mean.
p.s. i guess the peferct game for me would be 'morrowinds world' with 'dark souls (demon souls)' 'fighting system' and 'creature design' / ai.
At least for ranged (bow, magic) you need to aim/dodge.
I don't know how to fix that or make it better in a different game, but a good start would be the ability to actually dodge things. Just put in a dodge button and if you press that + a directional key you would dodge in that direction.
A second way would be that block only lasts a couple of seconds or drains stamina and it doesn't block any damage, when your stamina is gone, something like that.
I was also thinking of ways to make melee combat more fun, but with only mouse and keyboard or a controler I can't think of many ways to do that. Something like a "mouse gesture melee combat mod" could work, where you "draw" shapes with your mouse and the according strike or even skills are used. You could even do things like 360 spins or disarm moves done only with the mouse.
Guess it is a good idea in theory but hard to do practically and thats why nobody did it yet.