FPS/Mouse/Keyboard Delay

SimpleSimple Join Date: 2011-12-05 Member: 136628Members
<div class="IPBDescription">help</div>I just bought the game, I can't figure out how to fix this issue- I have unbarable mouse / keyboard delay// Possibly fps issue/ I have windows 7 hp pavilion, amd atc moble rad. hd 4250.. can anyone help me? i just wanna play ns22!

Comments

  • Heroman117Heroman117 Join Date: 2010-07-28 Member: 73268Members
    Natural Selection 2 is still very much in development, and especially aspects like optimization are still a work in progress. Often the feeling of mouse/keyboard delay and jerkiness are symptoms of poor server or client performance; which for the time being not much can be done except fiddling with NS2's settings, downloading the latest drivers for your graphics card, and waiting for the game's performance to improve.

    As for maximizing how well NS2 runs on your machine, there are multiple options to take.

    <b>-</b>First off, re-frame from playing on poorly performing servers, as no matter how good your PC may be, playing on a bad server not only isn't very fun due to low tick-rate, but also actually causes your client to perform slower too, as you are receiving far less information from the server, causing your PC to have to perform the calculations to fill in the rest. Even if you have a good ping doesn't mean you're on a good server, as NS2 mostly suffers from low tick-rates.

    You can check the server's tick-rate by typing "net_stats" in the console, which you can access by pressing `. The server's tick-rate is listed as "Server Rate", generally any number around 30 would be ideal, but it doesn't become too bad until it goes down to the teens; if it is below 10 then it probably means it's time to try a different server.

    Depending on your region, you should stick to playing on only one server. For the US the Inversion servers would probably be your best option. If your in the European continent, the HBZ server would likely be the one you want to stick to, and if your in Australia, the Australia Pure servers are good.


    <b>-</b>If you stick to the good servers but still have a less than desirable experience, you can try disabling some visual elements through the console. Here are some useful console commands.

    r_stats -Shows you your frame-rate and what elements your computer is currently processing. Use this to see which of the following commands helps you the most.
    r_atmospherics false -Disables god-rays and similar effects, was recently added and disabling it will probably yield the most results.
    r_bloom false -Disables bloom, the glare you see from lights. While it may not be substantial, its worth trying out.
    r_shadows 0 -Disables dynamic shadows. (r_shadows turns them back on, not r_shadows 1)

    Other than also updating your drivers or upgrading your computer, not too much else may be done for you until we see further optimization made for NS2. Don't worry however, its a well known issue and UWE has been focusing a grand majority of their efforts trying to make the game as playable as possible. If it is too bad for you to play then you can perhaps take a break from playing NS2 like some people have done and check back in a few months or so, and see if the game has improved enough for you to enjoy.

    Oh and welcome to the community and the forums :P
  • ObraxisObraxis Subnautica Animator & Generalist, NS2 Person Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30071Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, WC 2013 - Supporter, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    Seeing as you have an ATi chip, get the latest drivers for it then manually set AA and Triple buffering to OFF within the Catalyst control panel itself. That should help with your mouse-lag. Changing Performance to Fast should help too.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Catalyst 8.8 vs Catalyst 11.11 gave me a bunch of extra FPS and made the overall FPS more stable and feel smoother. Not sure if this will hold true for a HD4250 vs HD4850 (mine) though
  • SimpleSimple Join Date: 2011-12-05 Member: 136628Members
    Thank you for all the feedback- I have everything as up to date as it can be. I also tried using all the commands and I see the saddest thing ever, 5-13 FPS Maximum. It was better today on the preffered US server but still quite litterally unplayable. Are a lot of people experiencing unplayable FPS? 10 Is practically unbelievably awful! That's where the problem is I believe.. Any other feedback? I don't know if I want to "downgrade" my CAT to 8.8, I might do so though... On the newest version I can only change anti aliasing settings and NOT triple buffering.

    Thank you for the positive responses and hope to play with you soon :]
  • SimpleSimple Join Date: 2011-12-05 Member: 136628Members
    edited December 2011
    My Ping isen't to good either 150-600
  • DghelneshiDghelneshi Aims to surpass Fana in post edits. Join Date: 2011-11-01 Member: 130634Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited December 2011
    You're very lucky to be able to play NS2 <b>at all</b> with a HD 4250. That thing is even slower than the integrated GPUs in Intel's Sandy Bridge Processors.
    Sorry, but almost anything above 6 year old games is not going to run on your machine.

    Edit: A HD 4250 can push about <b>30</b>fps in WoW on minimum settings, while my HD 4850 could do roughly <b>230</b>fps. You're lucky to get even a third of my framerate in NS2.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1888530:date=Dec 5 2011, 05:04 PM:name=Simple)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Simple @ Dec 5 2011, 05:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1888530"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I don't know if I want to "downgrade" my CAT to 8.8, I might do so though... On the newest version I can only change anti aliasing settings and NOT triple buffering.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    heh, I meant I went from 8.8 to 11.11, but you're already on the latest :)


    The most likely cause of the problem is that you're computer probably has an older CPU, which is quite an important part to be able to play the NS2 Beta as it <b>currently</b> requires a powerful CPU. With my E6420 C2D @ 2.4Ghz I get about 20-35FPS and in worse case scenarios its around 16-19FPS. A few builds back this was in between 15-25FPS with some peaks to 30FPS. More optimizations in future builds, will hopefully get you more FPS...
  • ObraxisObraxis Subnautica Animator & Generalist, NS2 Person Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30071Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, WC 2013 - Supporter, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    Yeah the 4250 is a very slow GFX card, but the FPS you are getting sounds like it's from a slow CPU.

    Please post up your full spec :)
  • WilsonWilson Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 72867Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1888532:date=Dec 5 2011, 05:12 PM:name=Simple)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Simple @ Dec 5 2011, 05:12 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1888532"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->My Ping isen't to good either 150-600<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Try playing on a local server and see if you still have problems.
  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    I have a 4250 on my laptop too.

    It's not fast enough for NS2.. it's really not.
  • SimpleSimple Join Date: 2011-12-05 Member: 136628Members
    Wow, I just got this computer 8 months ago and it runs HoN fine, but it's much simpler.... How much would a new one cost? Any good websites?

    Manufacturer: HP

    Model:Hp pavilion g7 notebook PC

    processor: amd phenom™ II p650 Dual core processor 2.60 ghz

    ram: 4.00gb ( 3.7 usable)

    System type : 64 bit operating system
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    You can't compare NS2 beta to other games, it is still not optimized. AMD 2.6Ghz dual core ain't all that hot either...
  • SimpleSimple Join Date: 2011-12-05 Member: 136628Members
    Ok, so my in game picture looks absolutely amazing.. clear, detailed all of the above. I'm experiecing the delay and choppyness... I personally purchased this computer for up to date game play and I'm hoping I don't need to spend money on another gcard... Thanks again for the feedback! please help me work towards my goal of playing with all of you!
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    you dont even meet the minimum requirements for almost every game available on steam's main page...

    <a href="http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=M880G+with+Mobility+Radeon+HD+4250" target="_blank">http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?...+Radeon+HD+4250</a>

    sorry, i dont know what you paid for that system, but its not worth much..
  • SimpleSimple Join Date: 2011-12-05 Member: 136628Members
    That's what I needed to see ironhorse.. Wow that's shocking, thanks! My father bought it for me awhile go, someone sold it to him at best buy telling him it was optimal for games. Thanks so much for that. Ironhorse, any good websites to buy better cards off of? How easy is it to change a graphics card on a labtop?
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    edited December 2011
    newegg.com and amazon.com is where i order my parts from usually

    depends completely on the laptop maker. (alienware or sager lets you swap out video cards, hard drives, ram etc..)

    i really do recommend a desktop though. for the same price you paid for that laptop, you could have gotten a really decent desktop. you pay more for laptops, quality vs price, especially in gaming terms. if you need mobile you can use tablets, phones, or a netbook (cheap as hell these days) try to never buy from best buy or any retail outlet, they are #1 worst company according to consumer reporting websites and you are always paying for a mark up (i save so much buying part by part online). their employees don't know jack - i know three personally.

    but mobile gaming is only decent if you drop a lot of money into it and/or build it yourself
  • SimpleSimple Join Date: 2011-12-05 Member: 136628Members
    Lol ok thanks, yeah I agree to that.. I know some people that work there too. Right now I don't have the money to buy a desktop otherwise I would :P. I think my dad got it at best buy, I truly feel sorry for him and wouldn't tell him he bought the wrong product even if he killed my dog... Do you have any suggestions as to any specific series of graphics card?
  • ObraxisObraxis Subnautica Animator & Generalist, NS2 Person Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30071Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, WC 2013 - Supporter, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    edited December 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1888666:date=Dec 5 2011, 11:26 PM:name=Simple)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Simple @ Dec 5 2011, 11:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1888666"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Lol ok thanks, yeah I agree to that.. I know some people that work there too. Right now I don't have the money to buy a desktop otherwise I would :P. I think my dad got it at best buy, I truly feel sorry for him and wouldn't tell him he bought the wrong product even if he killed my dog... Do you have any suggestions as to any specific series of graphics card?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You cant buy a laptop graphics card for your particular laptop. Most modular laptops are $1000 to $2000. You'll need to buy a desktop down the line to play the latest PC games I'm afraid.
Sign In or Register to comment.