Natural Selection 2 News Update - NS2 Build 192 released

Flayra · January 2012

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vizioNz · January 2012

Let's hope you get it right this time :)

Jaweese · January 2012

I can confirm that the damage types and mine damage are both working correctly now. These changes should have a huge impact!

edit: actually mines are doing normal damage for some reason. Other forms of light damage seem fine though.

I noticed the blink momentum affects vertical velocity far more than horizontal (I actually encountered that problem when I was working on my movement mod).

Looks pretty good overall.

Techercizer · January 2012

Not sure how I feel about the FT nerf.

AssasinxXx · January 2012

Very nice, very smooth patch, was fun playing against Murphy >=D

BearTaxi · January 2012

Since the patch, whenever I start NS2, It gets to the main menu then freezes (although the music still plays, so the game isn't entirely frozen.) If I'm fast enough, I can click into the server browser but it will still have frozen before I can click into a server.

Am I the only one with this issue? It's the first time I've ever had any issues on the technical side with NS2.

swalk · January 2012

Awesome changelog.

IeptBarakat · January 2012

Simon did great on the sounds again. And the welder in the armory doesn't have the coming soon text anymore but you can't research it yet, what a tease.

Well there is gonna be less mine spam, as they're pretty useless now. One fade taps a mine and blinks away and all the mines around the phasegate explode. And the damage isn't even that strong. My computer or servers performance is a bit jagged again compared to 191. But the res overflow is helping my lovely gorge art though.

<a href="http://imgur.com/Mg87m" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/Mg87ml.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>

Can't wait for more news on Gorilla!

internetexplorer · January 2012

The game is getting so good! The Fade needs to be a lot less like what it is right now, to put it politely :)

Deadzone · January 2012

Just got done playing a 192 game as tastes like skittles.
Have to say, it's feeling pretty good as marine! Can't wait to try alien tomorrow.

I do have to agree with IeptBarakat, though. It feels like my fps is much steadier in general in 191-192, but it also drops a lot more. Endgame combat starts to become a challenge to keep up with.

I really like the res overflow - as a marine I was doing alright with a regular rifle, and just didn't upgrade to a shotgun for a while. As a result, I felt like I was helping my team a little by letting them take the overflow.

gamester_5 · January 2012

I can confirm there still is the alien commander Cyst placement bug in Data Core hive on Summit. Freezes my game when placing Pustules toward Ventelation just after the DC res node. It was freezing the game even if Pust was highlighted when in that hive.

When making Drifters in the Xroads hive they would take off out of the hive, not sure where they were going.

I would select Whips and then hit the "upgrade" in X roads hive and it would make selection screen blank out like it was not selecting it.

I have Nvidia cards if that helps.

Webbie · January 2012

Big improvement, the game is suddenly very playable now that mines and alien armor are fixed!

oldassgamers · January 2012

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IeptBarakat @ Jan 19 2012, 06:10 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1895695"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Simon did great on the sounds again. And the welder in the armory doesn't have the coming soon text anymore but you can't research it yet, what a tease.

Well there is gonna be less mine spam, as they're pretty useless now. One fade taps a mine and blinks away and all the mines around the phasegate explode. And the damage isn't even that strong. My computer or servers performance is a bit jagged again compared to 191. But the res overflow is helping my lovely gorge art though.

<a href="http://imgur.com/Mg87m" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/Mg87ml.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>

Can't wait for more news on Gorilla!</div>

Mines ain't useless in my opinion, you must understand that people use mines for the wrong purpose. Mines are for defence. Putting mines around structors will prevent enemies to attack structors. Although it won't be very effective because alien would get close to an object, then go fast back and then go back to the object.

Webbie · January 2012

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (oldassgamers @ Jan 19 2012, 02:00 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1895703"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Mines ain't useless in my opinion, you must understand that people use mines for the wrong purpose. Mines are for defence. Putting mines around structors will prevent enemies to attack structors. Although it won't be very effective because alien would get close to an object, then go fast back and then go back to the object.</div>

They also create additional risk when assaulting marine territory (in much the same way that infestation does for the marines), and can be very effective at repelling groups of enemies.

azimaith · January 2012

Good:
Mines are not constantly being stood on at the moment.

Alien armor helps a lot.

Bad

Alien hit detection seems to be having problems. I've been noticing a lot of bites that should be chomping down marines simply doing nothing.

There's still serious issues with placing cysts on ceilings and walls, seemingly randomly they spawn unconnected though show a connected marker.

Hydras are still awful, I had three taken out by a shotgun marines alone in the last game, he didn't even duck around a corner, he just ran around them in a circle, all three, and killed them all.

Aliens still need to rush to succeed. Otherwise it's the same shotgun>GL>base spam that happened in every other iteration of the game.

CC/Hive health is too low, which is the main reason why we rush at all.

Ultimately there's still a ton of balance to do that Gorilla won't do a damned thing about because the game never gets to that late of a stage. It's GL/Shotgun spam early/game then base camp still.

MurphyIdiot · January 2012

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AssasinxXx @ Jan 18 2012, 09:37 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1895690"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Very nice, very smooth patch, was fun playing against Murphy >=D</div>

GG :D

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearTaxi @ Jan 18 2012, 09:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1895691"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Since the patch, whenever I start NS2, It gets to the main menu then freezes...</div>

I haven't heard of that one. Please try to verify your files in Steam. If that doesn't fix it, try reinstalling the game. If you are still having problems after that please email me at brianc@thiswebsite.com with your log file.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Deadzone @ Jan 18 2012, 10:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1895698"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Just got done playing a 192 game as tastes like skittles...</div>

I was playing with you! I was commander and you were doing the stuff I wanted you to do. Good job :)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (azimaith @ Jan 18 2012, 11:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1895706"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>There's still serious issues with placing cysts on ceilings and walls, seemingly randomly they spawn unconnected though show a connected marker.</div>

I noticed this too. We will sort it out for Gorilla.

elodea · January 2012

Nice quick patch!
Parasite/bite still has an awfully long delay such that parasite is pretty redundant though.

BearTaxi · January 2012

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MurphyIdiot @ Jan 19 2012, 02:46 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1895708"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>I haven't heard of that one. Please try to verify your files in Steam. If that doesn't fix it, try reinstalling the game. If you are still having problems after that please email me at brianc@thiswebsite.com with your log file.</div>

Verifying the game cache fixed the issue, Probably should have tried that before posting here :P
Thanks anyway!

Ironsoul · January 2012

Fairly Standard Patch affair, good work. I have a few serious niggles though.

While fps has increased a tiny bit (which is always good). Mouse lag has become seriously worse compared to build 191. Everything feels sluggish now, and the shotgun is no longer useful... hell, it's really hard for me t ohit anything again.

In build 191, I could shoot lerks out of the sky with ease, now... spray and pray(mostly missing).

I don't know why the mouse lag is significantly worse, it just is.

fsfod · January 2012

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Fixed bug where a client would not properly go back to the main menu when there was an error during connection</div>
This is still not fixed, the client still gets stuck if the password is not correct

Ohnojojo · January 2012

Great build, my favorite part?
"OK NOW, time for Gorilla."

Price · January 2012

Nice, will be funny to see the gorge spit effect on marine screen ^^
The Gorilla Update will be epic, i hope so.

falc · January 2012

Just noticed 1 thing on ns2_rockdown while i was checking the console of my server:
<i>Hive in location "Central Access" only generated 0 egg spawns (need 9). Make room more open.</i>

Soul_Rider · January 2012

Loving it all so far, much better balance. Only issue that really frustrates is when we get a big Dynamic Infestation overload. when gorges go mad the server becomes unstable and it makes end game fights really drop their FPS.

twiliteblue · January 2012

That was a quick new build!

There has been a small issue since the build 190 alien upgrade revamp: It is not possible to place cyst or create drifters from an un-tech-locked Hive. The Kharaa commander is forced to select a tech path within the first second of the game, in order to capture new Resource Nodes, which I think is rather unfair.

I also noticed a minor issue with Whip pathing, where it stops short of the destination (~1 unit distance).

Kouji_San · January 2012

Yeah, I noticed that as well, but didn't really give it much thought. Good point though :)

Argathor · January 2012

On ns2_summit with aliens spawning at old Marine Start, the pre-spawned RT dies. (unless this was a one off, HBZ #1 was acting up)

LUSITANER · January 2012

I think no one will buy mines now, they are so weak... i see no use for them except just wasting res on something completely crappy.

Also, i keep freezing when placing a lot of cysts as alien commander.

Melancor · January 2012

It seems to me that ppl keep posting opinions without knowing what they talk about ("Get rid of alien com", "Fade needs more nerfing", "Mines are useless", "Game never gets to late stage", "CCs have too little HP")
Come on guys.

The change Log doesn't say anything about fixing the drifter bug?

MuYeah · January 2012

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Changelog)</div><div class='quotemain'>reserve Fade velocity when coming out of blink.</div>

!!!

BJHBnade_spammer · January 2012

im iffy about the pres being capped at 100. i usually save for atleast 150 pres and that never is enough. putting it up to atleast 150 might be a better idea 100 is a little low. so somewhere between 100-150 might be better.

think about all of the weapons you have to buy or if you are commander for aliens or marines you usually need that extra pres

Natural Selection 2 News Update - NS2 Build 192 released

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