Connection problems detected

RedlightningRedlightning Join Date: 2011-12-07 Member: 136979Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">AGAIN</div>What is this? Nearly every game this happens. Is this a server issue or an issue on Unknown worlds side? It's beginning to get incredibly frustrating when it always happens late game when you've invested hundreds of res and an hour of your time.
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  • KamikazeHunterKamikazeHunter Join Date: 2005-06-07 Member: 53360Members
    edited February 2012
    Yeah, I'm also suffering from a connection issue - my ping is sporadic for -no- reason then it caps out at 999 and I get a connection issue every time.

    This has occured on every sever I've played on. I opened my ports on my router (27000-27100 on TCP and UDP as well as that 1200 port on UDP) and I've reset the router. I've also disabled TS3 overlay, closed TS3, turned off steam overlay, and then I even went to the extremes of updating my video drivers, turning off Catalyst AI, checking all the hard lines on my ethernet cables, and I still had nothing... so I gave up and played some SWTOR which worked fine. So yeah... I got nothing...

    edit: I just downloaded NS2 this morning; it's high time I get back into the groove and support UW. Maybe the current build is a part of the problem? I dunno. more info is better than none, right?

    Also when I'm browsing servers my ping to the server is registering properly, but once I get in all hell breaks loose... it's like the old "OHNOES ONOS RUSH!" days of NS1 (by that I mean... "game over man! game over!!")
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  • FloodinatorFloodinator [HBZ] Member Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42087Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Maybe the server crashed or got an auto restart. Then you goe connection lost or sometimes on roundstart but it does not affect you.
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  • KamikazeHunterKamikazeHunter Join Date: 2005-06-07 Member: 53360Members
    Then why would I be suffering this issue on every server I've tried? =/
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  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited February 2012
    does it happen during gameplay or right when you get into the server? b/c while you're loading the map i don't think the client or server do much except keep the connection alive, so your "ping" can max out. and the "connection problems detected" is supposed to occur after a couple of seconds of no updates being received from the server...it doesn't really indicate a broken connection. there also used to be the 'round start' and 'round end' delay where the server ported everyone to their start locations or the RR, and that made the server freeze for a couple of seconds.

    *edit* sometimes late game the server crashes if there's too many buildings and stuff.
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  • RedlightningRedlightning Join Date: 2011-12-07 Member: 136979Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1900475:date=Feb 6 2012, 08:53 PM:name=Wheeee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wheeee @ Feb 6 2012, 08:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1900475"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->does it happen during gameplay or right when you get into the server? b/c while you're loading the map i don't think the client or server do much except keep the connection alive, so your "ping" can max out. and the "connection problems detected" is supposed to occur after a couple of seconds of no updates being received from the server...it doesn't really indicate a broken connection. there also used to be the 'round start' and 'round end' delay where the server ported everyone to their start locations or the RR, and that made the server freeze for a couple of seconds.

    *edit* sometimes late game the server crashes if there's too many buildings and stuff.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It rarely if ever crashes when joining a server. It always happens mid and late game, regardless of how many entities are present on the map.
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  • KamikazeHunterKamikazeHunter Join Date: 2005-06-07 Member: 53360Members
    For me, the error occurs after I've connected to the game. It is not related to the start or the end of a round so far as I can tell. Generally speaking, my ping starts at 99ish after joining a server (with 99 ping if the server list is to be believed) then after several seconds to a minute into the server my ping starts spiking from 99 to 134 to 100 to 300 to 350 to 600 to 999 (please understand most of these numbers were arbitrarily posted). My point is that my ping starts of normal then it starts going crazy, caps at 999 then I get the connection problem popping up on my screen. The ping never stays at 999; In fact, every now and again it goes back down to 100ish for a few seconds, then it gets back to 999. It's like a packet loss problem or something strange... I'm not fully sure how to describe it, heh.

    I'm going to do a few tests via my command prompt regarding ping and trace-route to identify whether or not it's on my end. So far as I can tell it's not, since I played Nuclear Dawn and SW: The Old Republic no problem today. In fact my buddy is on TOR as we speak and he's not having connection issues.

    Still, I shall post my results. I'll use NS2 server IPs for my tests. Results pending...
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  • KamikazeHunterKamikazeHunter Join Date: 2005-06-07 Member: 53360Members
    <!--quoteo(post=0:date=:name=KamikazeHunter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KamikazeHunter)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
    Copyright © 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    C:\Windows\system32>tracert masterserver.hon.s2games.com

    Tracing route to masterserver.hon.s2games.com [174.37.182.122]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    <b>1 </b>1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
    <b>2 </b>8 ms 9 ms 13 ms 10.245.0.1
    <b>3 </b>9 ms 10 ms 18 ms 70.169.76.208
    <b>4 </b>15 ms 16 ms 15 ms 70.169.74.192
    <b>5 </b>15 ms 13 ms 16 ms chnddsrj01-ae2.0.rd.ph.cox.net [70.169.76.229]
    <b>6 </b>35 ms 36 ms 35 ms 68.1.2.121
    <b>7 </b>50 ms 35 ms 39 ms 70.167.150.134
    <b>8 </b>42 ms 37 ms 36 ms ae7.bbr02.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com [173.192.1
    8.209]
    <b>9 </b>50 ms 51 ms 51 ms ae1.bbr01.cf01.den01.networklayer.com [173.192.1
    8.139]
    <b>10 </b>80 ms 77 ms 79 ms ae0.bbr01.wb01.sea02.networklayer.com [173.192.1
    8.144]
    <b>11 </b>78 ms 77 ms 78 ms ae0.dar01.sr01.sea01.networklayer.com [173.192.1
    8.199]
    <b>12 </b>77 ms 77 ms 97 ms po1.fcr02.sr03.sea01.networklayer.com [67.228.11
    8.225]
    <b>13 </b>76 ms 76 ms 86 ms 174.37.182.122-static.reverse.softlayer.com [174
    .37.182.122]

    Trace complete.

    C:\Windows\system32><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That's the control, if you will, simply since I've had to do a tracert to them before (similar reason I'd wager... can't be sure). Now I'm having trouble getting a tracert sent to any NS2 servers since the IPs haven't worked when I tried typing that into my cmd prompt. <b>Does anybody have the magic bullet of an IP address I'm missing?</b> I'd really like to get this issue identified. And please lay off the "it's tech" for the cause of this issue - fps drop doesn't cause connection issues, but I know downstream connection issues can cause problems with frames; like I said I'm facing connection issues [and crazy pings].
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  • FloodinatorFloodinator [HBZ] Member Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42087Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    And don't forget the pings on the scoreboard are wring. Use the net_stats command to see the correct ping.
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  • Josh86Josh86 Join Date: 2010-12-06 Member: 75513Members
    edited February 2012
    Sounds like your connection is wired ethernet, right -- not wireless? What brand and model of router are you using? Custom firmware?

    Just curious because I was having issues with NS2 and my Belkin N-type dongle and or my Linksys WRT54GL. I cut my wireless out of the picture and it works fine now with NS2. I had DDWRT firmware on the router to solve issues with HL2 based games and no matter what tweaking I did, NS2 would have extremely high latency when wireless (along with BFBC2, BF3, Bloodline Champions, and a few others). All other games play perfectly fine.

    Just an FYI.

    <i>Just wanted to add that my latency issues were just like yours. Servers ping fine, then, upon joining, my ping would spike to 999 and the game is pretty much unplayable. Sometimes I'd see it drop back to normal, but only for a few seconds. This sort of thing happens to me in the last two BF games and in Bloodline Champions as well. I've done traces and pinged the actual server IP outside the game while playing -- and nothing was out of the ordinary. Looking at the resource manager in Windows 7 (under network activity by process) it would show that the process in question had a really high latency, however. To this day, I can't say if its the dongle or the router that causes the issue...or perhaps a combination of the two.</i>
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  • rhombusrhombus Lerk Queen Join Date: 2011-06-23 Member: 106055Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    edited February 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1900635:date=Feb 7 2012, 08:21 AM:name=Floodinator)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Floodinator @ Feb 7 2012, 08:21 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1900635"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And don't forget the pings on the scoreboard are wring. Use the net_stats command to see the correct ping.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    This was fixed for the most part.

    Use the net_stats anyway to monitor your connection. Make sure you watch the packets sent/received and see. Most of the main servers like 156/Inversion rarely have any issue so that could be a good place to start as far as servers that way you can determine if it may be server or a hardware setting locally.. :P
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  • KamikazeHunterKamikazeHunter Join Date: 2005-06-07 Member: 53360Members
    edited February 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1900741:date=Feb 7 2012, 04:02 PM:name=Josh86)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh86 @ Feb 7 2012, 04:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1900741"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sounds like your connection is wired ethernet, right -- not wireless? What brand and model of router are you using? Custom firmware?

    Just curious because I was having issues with NS2 and my Belkin N-type dongle and or my Linksys WRT54GL. I cut my wireless out of the picture and it works fine now with NS2. I had DDWRT firmware on the router to solve issues with HL2 based games and no matter what tweaking I did, NS2 would have extremely high latency when wireless (along with BFBC2, BF3, Bloodline Champions, and a few others). All other games play perfectly fine.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Mhm I'm hard wired; desktops with oldschool hard lines all the way! Now wait wait wait - slow down and possibly translate that into English for me: <i>did you just suggest I get a firmware update?</i> As far as cutting wireless out of the picture, I cannot stop the wireless functions on my router since my roommate and buddy have laptops (<i>noobs haha</i>). And I'm assuming you got everything to work right, right? Or are you still having trouble w/ NS2?

    <!--quoteo(post=0:date=:name=SabaHell)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SabaHell)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Use the net_stats anyway to monitor your connection. Make sure you watch the packets sent/received and see.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Will do.

    Edit: <a href="http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6351/ns2issue.png" target="_blank">NS2 Connection Problems with net_stats</a> - here you go! Follow this link to see what's going on. PS - that was on Inversion #2.
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  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    tell your roommates to stop downloading porn
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  • KamikazeHunterKamikazeHunter Join Date: 2005-06-07 Member: 53360Members
    haha zing! ... that's sadly not it.
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  • PetzDerBärPetzDerBär Join Date: 2012-02-11 Member: 144919Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1900487:date=Feb 6 2012, 09:38 PM:name=KamikazeHunter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KamikazeHunter @ Feb 6 2012, 09:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1900487"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->For me, the error occurs after I've connected to the game. It is not related to the start or the end of a round so far as I can tell. Generally speaking, my ping starts at 99ish after joining a server (with 99 ping if the server list is to be believed) then after several seconds to a minute into the server my ping starts spiking from 99 to 134 to 100 to 300 to 350 to 600 to 999 (please understand most of these numbers were arbitrarily posted). My point is that my ping starts of normal then it starts going crazy, caps at 999 then I get the connection problem popping up on my screen. The ping never stays at 999; In fact, every now and again it goes back down to 100ish for a few seconds, then it gets back to 999. It's like a packet loss problem or something strange... I'm not fully sure how to describe it, heh.

    I'm going to do a few tests via my command prompt regarding ping and trace-route to identify whether or not it's on my end. So far as I can tell it's not, since I played Nuclear Dawn and SW: The Old Republic no problem today. In fact my buddy is on TOR as we speak and he's not having connection issues.

    Still, I shall post my results. I'll use NS2 server IPs for my tests. Results pending...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I am having similar problems. Some of them are most certainly caused by the crappy connection in my current place but games like tf2 run more or less smooth in multiplayer.
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