Editor Problems

SquartSquart Join Date: 2011-06-20 Member: 105481Members
in Mapping
<div class="IPBDescription">for every problem you have with the editor</div>Feel free to use this thread for spark editor bugg reports or other issues you have with it :).


Hi so I just have a Problem myself with the spark editor atm and its killing me :S.

Since the last update im not able to set Probs in my own map anymore neither can a friend of mine and its not working in a new layout neither.

So i was wondering if anyone of you ever had that problem before and how i can fix it because i realy want to finish our map soon :).

Another thing is the Prop window closes itself when im trying to write a word with the letter m to find for example marine.

I even deleted the whole game and reinstalled it, still not working.

Help is much apriciated

thanks in advance

[PS: I didnt know where to ask that sort of question other then here if there is a place for that already please tell me :)]
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  • pSyk0mAnpSyk0mAn Nerdish by Nature Germany Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19166Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Community Developer
    There are some issues with the editor in 195.
    I wouldn't touch and more important save my map at the moment just to be sure.
    You could try an older build though, if you have a backup

    Regarding the prop window that "bug" happens, because m is assigned to an editor command/shortcut.
    It usally only happens to me in a new map window. Once I place a prop and go back to the prop window, I can type all letters without triggering binds.
    Similar issue goes for entering location names. I think it works (better) when you move the window for the prop/entity options so it's not embedded into the editor window.
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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    edited February 2012
    The way to fix not being able to use props is to change your Windows regional settings to English (United States), it has to do with how your system represents the decimal point (1,5 vs 1.5), so that's why doing this will solve it. This is a new bug in 195, it's already reported so hopefully it'll be fixed in 196.

    The other problem you describe is an old bug, though, and you've already got a reply on it.

    Edit: I just noticed that the props get placed, but with the following scale: 1; 0; 0. So you can't really see it, but it's actually there.
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  • SquartSquart Join Date: 2011-06-20 Member: 105481Members
    Thank you for the fast reply, I have already saved the map with the bug hopefully when 196 fixes the bug nothing major has changed in our map, we have some backups but this new update was one of the biggest so far.

    So i guess im waiting for version 196 and use the time to review the map layout with pen and paper :)

    Thank you again !
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  • Soul_RiderSoul_Rider Mod Bean Join Date: 2004-06-19 Member: 29388Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    Thanks for the info guys. Been working really hard on modding, and was just getting ready to catch up on some mapping as I'm feeling a bit guilty after neglecting the map. Good job I left it alone :) Will wait for the fix before getting onto the map again :)

    Was this issue introduced because the fixed the overview? lol
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  • BlasphemyBlasphemy Join Date: 2008-05-02 Member: 64201Members, NS2 Playtester, Subnautica Playtester
    I've been making numerous saves recently on my map, and while I have not had any problems related to props (other than the one involving rotation where it starts flipping out if you get particular rotations going), I am concerned as to the other issues, and how much it will mess up my map. If I may ask, what were the new problems that came with the 195 patch that should keep me away from mapping temporarily?
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  • LV426-ColonistLV426-Colonist Space Jockey Join Date: 2011-08-05 Member: 114269Members, Constellation
    edited February 2012
    The editor has too many problems to list.
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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1902224:date=Feb 12 2012, 04:20 AM:name=Blasphemy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Blasphemy @ Feb 12 2012, 04:20 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1902224"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've been making numerous saves recently on my map, and while I have not had any problems related to props (other than the one involving rotation where it starts flipping out if you get particular rotations going), I am concerned as to the other issues, and how much it will mess up my map. If I may ask, what were the new problems that came with the 195 patch that should keep me away from mapping temporarily?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you can place props you can use the editor just like before.
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  • BlasphemyBlasphemy Join Date: 2008-05-02 Member: 64201Members, NS2 Playtester, Subnautica Playtester
    Good to know. Thanks.
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  • XtofXtof Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15514Members
    The Viewer and the cinematic editor don't work. I receive a debug report with both. It used to work, but in the current version it doensn't. Does any one else has this problem?
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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1902985:date=Feb 14 2012, 01:24 PM:name=Xtof)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Xtof @ Feb 14 2012, 01:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1902985"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Viewer and the cinematic editor don't work. I receive a debug report with both. It used to work, but in the current version it doensn't. Does any one else has this problem?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yep, I'm getting that too.
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  • XtofXtof Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15514Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1902985:date=Feb 14 2012, 01:24 PM:name=Xtof)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Xtof @ Feb 14 2012, 01:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1902985"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Viewer and the cinematic editor don't work. I receive a debug report with both. It used to work, but in the current version it doensn't. Does any one else has this problem?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    <!--quoteo(post=1903045:date=Feb 14 2012, 04:18 PM:name=Mendasp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mendasp @ Feb 14 2012, 04:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1903045"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yep, I'm getting that too.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Thanks ... now I know that it isn't my computer that causes that.

    Greetz,
    XtOf
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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    It's actually the same issue that the editor has, if you change the regional settings to English (US) it won't crash... I suppose it'll be fixed in the next patch.
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  • XtofXtof Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15514Members
    k tx!
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  • endarendar Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73256Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1901713:date=Feb 10 2012, 10:03 PM:name=Squart)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Squart @ Feb 10 2012, 10:03 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1901713"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->[PS: I didnt know where to ask that sort of question other then here if there is a place for that already please tell me :)]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Sounds like the sort of thing that should go into <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/wiki" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/wiki</a>
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  • YuukiYuuki Join Date: 2010-11-20 Member: 75079Members
    I played a bit with the editor, some stuff that might help :

    1) Copy how blender move/rotate/scale tool works, it's way better, and since it's the basic tools, they need to be well designed:

    - Move shortcuts to be closer on keyboard (g,r,s)
    - When you have something selected and you press g,r,s the thing start directly to move/rotate/scale. No need to point and click on the little axis.
    - When you move/rotate/scale something pressing x,y or z constrain the movement in the given axis.
    - When you move/rotate/scale something pressing middle mouse button constrain the movement in the closet axis.
    - When you move/rotate/scale something typing a number move/rotate/scale by the number. E.g. double size a face : s 2.
    - ...

    Download blender and see how it's done : <a href="http://www.blender.org/" target="_blank">http://www.blender.org/</a>

    2) When you create a new face orient it toward the camera.
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  • Rudy.czRudy.cz Join Date: 2012-02-13 Member: 145410Members
    Actually a little thing bothers me. Its about the viewports - its like when you move something to the left in Top view it is going right in Side view. I think it has something to do with orthographic projection - in the US is common to use Third-angle projection, but in Europe we are used to first angle :-)

    here is a explanatory picture
    <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Convention_placement_vues_dessin_technique.svg/462px-Convention_placement_vues_dessin_technique.svg.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    more here: <a href="http://"%20<a%20href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiview_orthographic_projection""%20target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiview_ort...rojection"</a>" target="_blank">wiki</a>

    Myabe would be nice, if there will be a option in the editor to switch between these two.

    Do you have same problem?
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  • Soul_RiderSoul_Rider Mod Bean Join Date: 2004-06-19 Member: 29388Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    I started a thread about that some while ago Rudy.

    <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=115808" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...howtopic=115808</a>
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