Fatal Error (since 195)

vispivispi Join Date: 2010-02-12 Member: 70536Members
Every time I run the ns executable it throws me a fatal error. I run Windows 7 Pro x64. Problems started after patch 195, hardware configuration unchanged.

I have tried the following:
Different video card driver versions (I have Ati HD5850 and multiple monitors - no Crossfire)
Installed PhysX and DX as suggested in a troubleshoot FAQ
Remove caches files and reset config
Running in windowed mode
Verify files
Reinstall game

None of these have worked. Log.txt only gives so much information what went haywire:
Build 197
Starting Natural Selection 2
RenderDevice: ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series (8.17.10.1103)

Any help on how to proceed is appreciated.

Cheers.

Comments

  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    Nothing to add but a bump for the man. Anyone?
  • PricePrice Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21247Members
    Show us the error!
    Otherwise we can not help!
  • vispivispi Join Date: 2010-02-12 Member: 70536Members
    edited February 2012
    <img src="http://vispi.kapsi.fi/pic/Debug_Report.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    Here's the dump:

    Microsoft ® Windows Debugger Version 6.11.0001.404 AMD64
    Copyright © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


    Loading Dump File [C:\minidump.dmp]
    User Mini Dump File: Only registers, stack and portions of memory are available

    Symbol search path is: *** Invalid ***
    ****************************************************************************
    * Symbol loading may be unreliable without a symbol search path. *
    * Use .symfix to have the debugger choose a symbol path. *
    * After setting your symbol path, use .reload to refresh symbol locations. *
    ****************************************************************************
    Executable search path is:
    Windows 7 Version 7601 (Service Pack 1) MP (4 procs) Free x86 compatible
    Product: WinNt, suite: SingleUserTS
    Machine Name:
    Debug session time: Sun Feb 19 20:37:16.000 2012 (GMT+2)
    System Uptime: not available
    Process Uptime: 0 days 0:00:01.000
    ................................................................
    ........................
    This dump file has an exception of interest stored in it.
    The stored exception information can be accessed via .ecxr.
    (e88.1e70): Access violation - code c0000005 (first/second chance not available)
    eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000005 edx=00000000 esi=00000348 edi=5d70b810
    eip=77a30c22 esp=0018e3b8 ebp=0018e3c8 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na pe nc
    cs=0023 ss=002b ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00000246
    *** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for ntdll.dll -
    ntdll!ZwGetContextThread+0x12:
    77a30c22 83c404 add esp,4
  • PricePrice Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21247Members
    edited February 2012
    can you just for test run the ns2.exe in windows xp SP3 mode?
    Did you run ns2.exe as admin?
    Have you the newest graphic card drivers?
    Have you the newest direct x? ->Steam\steamapps\common\natural selection 2\redist\DirectX\DXSETUP.exe
    Have you Microsoft Visual C++ 20xx Redistributable?
    Its very weird what you got.

    oh and as you wrote "reinstalled game" has you delete the old folder/steam remove game?
  • vispivispi Join Date: 2010-02-12 Member: 70536Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1904847:date=Feb 19 2012, 09:40 PM:name=Price)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Price @ Feb 19 2012, 09:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904847"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->can you just for test run the ns2.exe in windows xp SP3 mode?
    Did you run ns2.exe as admin?
    Have you the newest graphic card drivers?
    Have you the newest direct x? ->Steam\steamapps\common\natural selection 2\redist\DirectX\DXSETUP.exe
    Have you Microsoft Visual C++ 20xx Redistributable?
    Its very weird what you got.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    xp SP3 compatibility mode: no help
    Yes I ran it as admin to no avail
    Have tried 3 different versions, including the latest (note: it was working before with the same driver)
    Yes, I have the newest DX
    I have multiple C++ redists. Where can I check if all the necessary are present?
  • PricePrice Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21247Members
    edited February 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1904849:date=Feb 19 2012, 08:45 PM:name=vispi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vispi @ Feb 19 2012, 08:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904849"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have multiple C++ redists. Where can I check if all the necessary are present?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    To be honest i have no idea which one is for which software.
    But you can see what you got in your software:
    (no idea whats it in english so i translate by my own) system controll-> big icons-> Programs and functions
    It runs fine on my pc and i got the HD 6850.
    The last catch at a straw is, did you got flash installed?
    Maybe its wrong but the game use flash, isn't it?
    Did other games work?
  • vispivispi Join Date: 2010-02-12 Member: 70536Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1904850:date=Feb 19 2012, 09:47 PM:name=Price)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Price @ Feb 19 2012, 09:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904850"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->To be honest i have no idea which one is for which software.
    But you can see what you got in your software:
    (no idea whats it in english so i translate by my own) system controll-> big icons-> Programs and functions
    It runs fine on my pc and i got the HD 6850.
    The last catch at a straw is, did you got flash installed?
    Maybe its wrong but the game use flash, isn't it?
    Did other games work?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I've had flash installed since forever. I'm about clueless what to try next.
  • PricePrice Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21247Members
    edited February 2012
    Did Editor.exe, LaunchPad.exe or Viewer.exe work?
    Are you sure you install NS2 from totaly new? or just check files?
    because i got this* error last days, which was a totaly surprise for me, after deleting the ns2.exe and redownload(check cache or what it was) it works.
    * <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=116489" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...howtopic=116489</a>
  • vispivispi Join Date: 2010-02-12 Member: 70536Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1904857:date=Feb 19 2012, 09:57 PM:name=Price)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Price @ Feb 19 2012, 09:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904857"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Did Editor.exe, LaunchPad.exe or Viewer.exe work?
    Are you sure you install NS2 from totaly new? or just check files?
    because i got this* error last days, which was a totaly surprise for me, after deleting the ns2.exe and redownload(check cache or what it was) it works.
    * <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=116489" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...howtopic=116489</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes, all the editors work - NS2 doesn't. Also, yes for the clean install from Steam, as stated in the opening post.
  • vispivispi Join Date: 2010-02-12 Member: 70536Members
    Wild bumple bee appears.
  • vispivispi Join Date: 2010-02-12 Member: 70536Members
    Bumpedy bump. Help?
  • MOOtantMOOtant Join Date: 2010-06-25 Member: 72158Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1904844:date=Feb 19 2012, 08:16 PM:name=vispi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vispi @ Feb 19 2012, 08:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904844"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Access violation - code c0000005<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's NULL exception.
  • vispivispi Join Date: 2010-02-12 Member: 70536Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1905924:date=Feb 22 2012, 07:53 PM:name=MOOtant)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MOOtant @ Feb 22 2012, 07:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1905924"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That's NULL exception.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How does one go about debugging this?
  • FloodinatorFloodinator [HBZ] Member Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42087Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited February 2012
    Did you run Windows update? Some fixes for MS visuals C++ are on the updatepage.

    Another question do you run any -game commands on the NS2 exe?

    Another thing you may try is delete the clientregistry.blobb and then the whole NS2 folder, and reinstall NS2 again.
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    Symbol search path is: *** Invalid ***
    <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa363368(v=vs.85).aspx" target="_blank">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/wi...8(v=vs.85).aspx</a>
    since the issue is relating to you having trouble accessing certain files, like the symbol debugging files, i'd take a look at user permissions, hard drive health, viruses etc.
    are you running on a SSD?
  • vispivispi Join Date: 2010-02-12 Member: 70536Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1905980:date=Feb 22 2012, 11:01 PM:name=ironhorse)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ironhorse @ Feb 22 2012, 11:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1905980"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Symbol search path is: *** Invalid ***
    <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa363368(v=vs.85).aspx" target="_blank">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/wi...8(v=vs.85).aspx</a>
    since the issue is relating to you having trouble accessing certain files, like the symbol debugging files, i'd take a look at user permissions, hard drive health, viruses etc.
    are you running on a SSD?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    User permissions of what? Shouldn't admin account have every access (exept for kernel space etc. of course). I have SSD yes, it checks out fine. No viruses or malware - checked with different scanners.
  • vispivispi Join Date: 2010-02-12 Member: 70536Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1905974:date=Feb 22 2012, 10:48 PM:name=Floodinator)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Floodinator @ Feb 22 2012, 10:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1905974"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Did you run Windows update? Some fixes for MS visuals C++ are on the updatepage.

    Another question do you run any -game commands on the NS2 exe?

    Another thing you may try is delete the clientregistry.blobb and then the whole NS2 folder, and reinstall NS2 again.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Windows is up to date.
    No -game commands.
    I did try deleting .blokk and reinstalling this, didn't help though.
    Thanks anyways.
  • FloodinatorFloodinator [HBZ] Member Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42087Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited February 2012
    Ok. Hm last hope is to deinstall the runtimes NS2 need and physics, and do a fresch install of them.

    It really strange that it stopped working suddenly.

    Still good luck!

    Edit: I was installing a new sound card today and forgot to install the drivers. I try to start NS2 but it shuts down with error. After installing the sounddrivers and activating my card NS2 just started as normal. But you wrote no new hardware. So did you install newer drivers after 195?
  • vispivispi Join Date: 2010-02-12 Member: 70536Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1906587:date=Feb 24 2012, 04:35 PM:name=Floodinator)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Floodinator @ Feb 24 2012, 04:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1906587"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ok. Hm last hope is to deinstall the runtimes NS2 need and physics, and do a fresch install of them.

    It really strange that it stopped working suddenly.

    Still good luck!

    Edit: I was installing a new sound card today and forgot to install the drivers. I try to start NS2 but it shuts down with error. After installing the sounddrivers and activating my card NS2 just started as normal. But you wrote no new hardware. So did you install newer drivers after 195?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That's one of the first things I checked. No drivers updated manually nor automatically via Windudes update. Except after the problems started I fiddled with ATI drivers :[
  • MrYiffMrYiff Join Date: 2004-08-24 Member: 30867Members, NS2 Playtester
    If you get the option to send a debug report please do submit it along with the dump files, Max and Dushan are able to then use these to find the problem and where they can fix it too. So far they have fixed multiple crash bugs thanks to players submitted crash reports with dump files.

    If you can reproduce the crash please do include the steps in the report too as knowing how the crash occurs can make finding the problem code a bit easier.
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