<!--quoteo(post=1926187:date=Apr 16 2012, 11:51 PM:name=elodea)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (elodea @ Apr 16 2012, 11:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1926187"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ofcourse. Ally or enemy, the point is this. It doesnt really matter what another players disposition is <b>if</b> he mechanically cannot do something in game due to game mechanic changes.
Player 1 is disposed to strategy x because it was dominant. Game mechanic changes make this strategy no longer dominant. This changes metagame. Player 2 may think player 1 will still do strategy x. Player 2 knows this and can now do strategy y which is no longer the dominated option due to the changes to game mechanics.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What a laughable oversimplification. Most changes do not have such a categorical impact on gameplay, only the addition/removal of major features.
<!--quoteo(post=1926501:date=Apr 17 2012, 03:06 PM:name=NurEinMensch)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NurEinMensch @ Apr 17 2012, 03:06 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1926501"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is this a discussion or meta discussion now?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> This thread is a discussion, but the discussion we're having about it right now is meta.
If I were discuss your meta discussion, would that make this a meta meta? And I were to meta your meta meta, could we meta meta some meta while we meta?
<!--quoteo(post=1926526:date=Apr 17 2012, 04:29 PM:name=Strayan (NS2HD))--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Strayan (NS2HD) @ Apr 17 2012, 04:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1926526"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If I were discuss your meta discussion, would that make this a meta meta? And I were to meta your meta meta, could we meta meta some meta while we meta?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think our NS2 team needs to slow down with the hits of acid before making game changing alterations ;) ;)
<!--quoteo(post=1926526:date=Apr 17 2012, 10:29 PM:name=Strayan (NS2HD))--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Strayan (NS2HD) @ Apr 17 2012, 10:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1926526"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If I were discuss your meta discussion, would that make this a meta meta? And I were to meta your meta meta, could we meta meta some meta while we meta?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> that would be metception
<!--quoteo(post=1926526:date=Apr 17 2012, 04:29 PM:name=Strayan (NS2HD))--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Strayan (NS2HD) @ Apr 17 2012, 04:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1926526"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If I were discuss your meta discussion, would that make this a meta meta? And I were to meta your meta meta, could we meta meta some meta while we meta?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Meta is meta. Multiple states of meta are redundant; you're either discussing something larger than the referred to topic or are not.
if im in a competitive match ... which is being broadcasted by NS2HD ... and i have the broadcast streaming on my 2nd computer right next to me ... whilst im playing in the match .... is that meta gaming ? :D
<!--quoteo(post=1926438:date=Apr 18 2012, 04:20 AM:name=1dominator1)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1dominator1 @ Apr 18 2012, 04:20 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1926438"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What a laughable oversimplification. Most changes do not have such a categorical impact on gameplay, only the addition/removal of major features.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Whats laughable is your inability to understand the context. If you dont think the alien comm changes are anywhere major then you need someone to pop your bubble of ignorance.
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Player 1 is disposed to strategy x because it was dominant. Game mechanic changes make this strategy no longer dominant. This changes metagame. Player 2 may think player 1 will still do strategy x. Player 2 knows this and can now do strategy y which is no longer the dominated option due to the changes to game mechanics.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What a laughable oversimplification. Most changes do not have such a categorical impact on gameplay, only the addition/removal of major features.
This thread is a discussion, but the discussion we're having about it right now is meta.
I think our NS2 team needs to slow down with the hits of acid before making game changing alterations ;) ;)
that would be metception
Meta is meta. Multiple states of meta are redundant; you're either discussing something larger than the referred to topic or are not.
if im in a competitive match ... which is being broadcasted by NS2HD ... and i have the broadcast streaming on my 2nd computer right next to me ... whilst im playing in the match .... is that meta gaming ? :D
Whats laughable is your inability to understand the context. If you dont think the alien comm changes are anywhere major then you need someone to pop your bubble of ignorance.