Game Breaking Bug with *BLEEP*

SecuritySecurity Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33133Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
edited June 2012 in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Hotfix please.</div>Not sure if this is known yet:

<!--coloro:#FF8C00--><span style="color:#FF8C00"><!--/coloro--><b>Very naughty sentence edited out :) In future if something is this exploitable, please email us. But thankyou for finding it! - Hugh</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->

People are doing it all over the servers already. Could we get a hotfix please? :/
Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome

Comments

  • rantologyrantology Join Date: 2012-02-05 Member: 143750Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold
    edited June 2012
    Thanks for posting it on the public forums, I'm sure this will help resolve the fact that you are seeing it in public games for sure.


    <i><!--sizeo:1--><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->/sarcasm<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></i>


    also:

    <i>/facepalm</i>
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • SecuritySecurity Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33133Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    It has been widely known already anyways, seeing how it happened in half of the games I was in today.

    And now other server admins know about it too, so they can ban those people instead of wondering what the hell is wrong with their server.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • JuCCiJuCCi Join Date: 2011-08-08 Member: 114961Members, NS2 Map Tester
    Everyone take this as a warning if you do this on my servers and i find out. It will be a ban :) I doubt we will see a hotfix.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • rantologyrantology Join Date: 2012-02-05 Member: 143750Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold
    rule #1 when reporting bugs, especially game breaking bugs:

    you <!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->never<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> post them in a public forum.
    you <!--sizeo:5--><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->never<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> post them in a public forum.
    you <!--sizeo:7--><span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><u>never</u><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> post them in a public forum.


    <a href="https://getsatisfaction.com/unknownworlds" target="_blank">https://getsatisfaction.com/unknownworlds</a> or email one of the devs, but spreading awareness and then complaining that you're seeing it on the pubs is just downright stupid.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    Rule #2: if you want something to get hotfixed, you do it in pubs and post it on the public forum
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • JuCCiJuCCi Join Date: 2011-08-08 Member: 114961Members, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1946160:date=Jun 23 2012, 06:25 PM:name=internetexplorer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (internetexplorer @ Jun 23 2012, 06:25 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1946160"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Rule #2: if you want something to get hotfixed, you do it in pubs and post it on the public forum<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Again they wont hotfix it.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • rantologyrantology Join Date: 2012-02-05 Member: 143750Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold
    edited June 2012
    Thing is, it's not going to get hotfixed. The game does not get hotfixed. You've only spread the awareness and now we'll have to wait until next weds/thurs (at best) for the regular update to get it fixed at the earliest.


    So congrats, you've clearly outsmarted the dev's and forced their hand. I'm sure they're going to drop everything their doing to hotfix it and we'll all see this fixed immediately.



    edit: one of the mods should really delete this thread -_-
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    edited June 2012
    I didn't say it would get hotfixed...just that if you 'want it to' there are certain things you will probably do.
    Expecting the devs to do anything because of something any of us does is pretty foolish. Expecting anyone to playtest "clicking the welder on the mine" before a release is even more foolish..
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • GORGEousGORGEous Join Date: 2012-02-19 Member: 146762Members, NS2 Map Tester
    Please edit that ###### out so we don't have this in every pub until next patch.

    That's not how you report huge bugs // exploits.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • rantologyrantology Join Date: 2012-02-05 Member: 143750Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold
    Then why did you post the thread? To intentionally grief the community? Try thinking before you post next time, seriously... that is like mind bogglingly dumb.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • SecuritySecurity Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33133Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    Whats your problem?

    Again: It has been widely known already. Except by admins who can now ban the griefers.
    And players who can now report griefers to the admins.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • GORGEousGORGEous Join Date: 2012-02-19 Member: 146762Members, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1946166:date=Jun 23 2012, 05:32 PM:name=Security)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Security @ Jun 23 2012, 05:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1946166"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Whats your problem?

    Again: It has been widely known already. Except by admins who can now ban the griefers.
    And players who can now report griefers to the admins.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Your post is the problem. I didn't know about this and had never seen it in game until reading about your post now. YOU just spread the exploit around to everyone.

    If you want to inform the admins, then inform the admins. You just informed the entire public.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    Can we please be even harder on this guy and still not see the posts edited and the thread closed? This is important to me.

    SECURITY IS LITERALLY HITLER AND 9/11
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • GORGEousGORGEous Join Date: 2012-02-19 Member: 146762Members, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1946169:date=Jun 23 2012, 05:35 PM:name=internetexplorer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (internetexplorer @ Jun 23 2012, 05:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1946169"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Can we please be even harder on this guy and still not see the posts edited and the thread closed? This is important to me.

    SECURITY IS LITERALLY HITLER AND 9/11<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    This one thread has a pretty good chance of completely ruining pubs until b211 comes out. Given that you don't even play the game, I can understand why you wouldn't care about this.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1946170:date=Jun 23 2012, 05:38 PM:name=GORGEous)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GORGEous @ Jun 23 2012, 05:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1946170"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This one thread has a pretty good chance of completely ruining pubs until b211 comes out. Given that you don't even play the game, I can understand why you wouldn't care about this.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Hey I tried to log in and play today but my i7 system couldn't keep stable fps in the ready room with 3 people so it wasn't doing it for me, alright?
    I really think you're overestimating how many evil griefer kids are browsing the forums right now. This game is still <i>really small</i>. I bet there are less of them than people capable of closing the thread.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • SecuritySecurity Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33133Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    Um, sorry that admins can ban the griefers now? Yeah, I'm sure you would have liked to play on until 211 without ever knowing where those lags and freezes come from.

    And probably even after that, seeing how such a bug made it through playtesting.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • GORGEousGORGEous Join Date: 2012-02-19 Member: 146762Members, NS2 Map Tester
    Yeah man, well done giving everyone in the game the ability to lag out and crash servers at will. It would have been very difficult to simply PM the 3-5 admins that run the populated servers. Nope, gotta post that on the forums so everyone can do it!
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1946174:date=Jun 23 2012, 05:45 PM:name=GORGEous)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GORGEous @ Jun 23 2012, 05:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1946174"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah man, well done giving everyone in the game the ability to lag out and crash servers at will<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    He didn't do that. Do you know who did?
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • SecuritySecurity Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33133Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1946174:date=Jun 23 2012, 11:45 PM:name=GORGEous)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GORGEous @ Jun 23 2012, 11:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1946174"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->so everyone can do it!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    "Everyone" was already knowing & doing it.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • GORGEousGORGEous Join Date: 2012-02-19 Member: 146762Members, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1946177:date=Jun 23 2012, 05:48 PM:name=Security)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Security @ Jun 23 2012, 05:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1946177"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->"Everyone" was already knowing & doing it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No. They weren't.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1946179:date=Jun 23 2012, 05:49 PM:name=GORGEous)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GORGEous @ Jun 23 2012, 05:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1946179"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No. They weren't.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Are they now? I need answers, people!
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    In general, its best to either PM or email a dev, mod, or internal PT about any actual or potential exploits, griefing mechanics, or gamebreaking bugs. Personally, I did not know about this (didn't ever think about welding a mine before), and I suspect that it wasn't widespread since its a pretty serious bug that has likely been in-game for a while.

    Thankfully, most people who play NS2 aren't on the forums, so I see little damage done.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • Omega_K2Omega_K2 Join Date: 2011-12-25 Member: 139013Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1946174:date=Jun 23 2012, 11:45 PM:name=GORGEous)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GORGEous @ Jun 23 2012, 11:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1946174"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah man, well done giving everyone in the game the ability to lag out and crash servers at will.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Security though obscurity? That never worked.

    Despite, people eventually find out or see other people doing it (like the map exploits - renember the hole you could jp/lerk though on summit? :P). At least people now know what's going on including admins.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • SecuritySecurity Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33133Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1946180:date=Jun 23 2012, 11:50 PM:name=internetexplorer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (internetexplorer @ Jun 23 2012, 11:50 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1946180"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Are they now? I need answers, people!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Theres a good chance that they won't dare to do it now anymore, with admins aware and the danger of insta-ban.
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • HughHugh Cameraman San Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    Thanks for bringing this to our attention guys - We will not be hotfixing the game before 211, as its not too far off now. In future if a bug is this bad, please refrain from posting it publicly.

    Cheers!
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited June 2012
    I think we can all learn something from this.

    <b>Made me lol, but hinted at the exploit so going to edit it out. Sorry Argathor! Closing the topic as well now. - Hugh</b>
    Off Topic Disagree Agree Awesome
This discussion has been closed.