balancing teams better

rhgunmasta

so for those of us who would regularly play on a NS1 server would quickly realize the problem of stacking teams, where everybody would try to join the team of the exceptionally good players, stacking an advantage over the other team which just about always ends with a landslide victory for the stacked teams. that is probably the most annoying thing in all of NS1 to me. and already i see the problem happening in NS2. which doesn't exactly encourage new players when they get their asses stomped within the first 8 minutes of a game. so i believe it would be a much better game if the only options were to join random, or join spectator. it would be so much better for balancing the teams.

Hunter.S.T.

better that this problem be solved, as it was in ns1, either by modding, or by a server side option, which puts everyone onto a team before the game starts, or to disable join team one and join team two, but once again as a server side option, or a server mod.

This is a far easier, and far better solution, than remapping the ready rooms to remove the options, which is what i think you are asking for.

rhgunmasta

yeah i wouldnt bother with the remapping so much as just disable the option

[AwE]Sentinel

They implemented the admin menu and you can use randomall (or at least that is the plan). So i hope admins will use it if needed. I wouldn't worry about that too much. Also often the same people who yell stack don't want to play at alien or rine side and causing the "stack" by not joining up themselfs.

Laosh'Ra

joining random would not help much: people can wait for something like 4v5 to make sure they end up on the team with 4 ppl.
so to really solve this, something like the randomall seems to be the only safe option.
i see a problem with this though: you often see people taking a few minutes pause after a longer match. those people would end up ingame, blocking the spawn queues and draining res from the rest.

rantology

randomall doesn't always work, either. You could end up with the same results (fully stacked team) because it's random.


If one truly wanted to make a balance mod you'd need some time of elo/truskill system, either based off of W/L (for player and/or comm) or score based on the avg score of your team (how far above/below the avg score of your team were you), but that would only be viable for players and not commanders.

Zxaber

Random doesn't seem to take team size into account. Whenever I play, I typically go random, but I've had it place me onto a team of 5 when the other had 4.