Metro 2033

lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
edited August 2012 in Off-Topic
God-######-damn this game. I am sick and tired of not having quicksave in a game that is screaming for savescumming and will set you back half a ###### hour when you die, which happens in a second. I am sick and tired of how terribly it performs and how little ammo there is and how every enemy takes half a magazine to kill and how they all have infinite ammo until the instant you kill them at which point all but five of their bullets turn to vapour. I am sick and tired of every bullet making your aim spasm all over the place when the enemy can place pinpoint fire on you while being shot in the face. I am ###### SICK of this ######, and one of you ###### recommended it to me and whoever it was better come forward and justify themself.

I like the setting though, very immersive.

Edit: lolf less mad now. You will like lolf when lolf less mad. Reducing the difficulty helped. Also switching back to DX9 increased the performance by a lot. Apparently the DX11 engine is poorly optimised.
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  • ellnicellnic Join Date: 2010-07-19 Member: 72559Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Lol at your ranting and then camly said, I like the setting though...

    This game is brilliant. I did the ending where you save the darkones and not kill them. Metro: Last Light looks even better. Takes paer in 2034, a year after the vents in this this game. Should be out next year, a 6 month pushback from the original date
  • -Drake--Drake- -dn ʎɐʍ sıɥʇ- Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15125Members
    The Librarians....

    Oh the nightmares X[
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited August 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1959091:date=Aug 8 2012, 10:07 PM:name=Drake1)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Drake1 @ Aug 8 2012, 10:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1959091"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Librarians....

    Oh the nightmares X[<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    The "dont look away, do not move, let them sniff on you and they might leave you alone" part is the worst , most terrifying thing ive experienced in that game. On the second run It made me almost skip that part with cheats , but then i played it without skipping , and it was just as creepy. That basement you sneak around between sleeping librarians, just to get that stupid ammo...omfg.. and then one wakes up and looks around...i shat bricks every time
  • -Drake--Drake- -dn ʎɐʍ sıɥʇ- Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15125Members
    What made it worse for me what that I used all my pneumatic crossbow ammo to get into the basement den leaving me with only the scoped .44 that was awful for killing them with which made that whole section beyond tense.
  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    edited August 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1959110:date=Aug 8 2012, 01:57 PM:name=sheena_yanai)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sheena_yanai @ Aug 8 2012, 01:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1959110"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The "dont look away, do not move, let them sniff on you and they might leave you alone" part is the worst , most terrifying thing ive experienced in that game. On the second run It made me almost skip that part with cheats , but then i played it without skipping , and it was just as creepy. That basement you sneak around between sleeping librarians, just to get that stupid ammo...omfg.. and then one wakes up and looks around...i shat bricks every time<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The librarians were a pain for me because I somehow messed up the first encounters by letting them come and smell me somehow. They just started attacking me so I thought I had been internet trolled by allowing them to get close. This resulted in fighting every single one of them that I couldn't sneak past. Luckily it wasn't too hard to shoot, turn and sprint, turn back, shoot and so on without getting hit very much.

    I found the humanoid face creatures much more terrifying because they were so uncanny valley looking and seemingly random with their hostility.

    The end fight with the "slugs" was catastrophic. God damn AI, god damn low ammo and god damn aoe exploding slugs EVERYWHERE.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Yeah I dunno, I had to fight almost every single librarian. I'd either stare it down and then it would attack me anyway, or it'd retreat in the same direction I had to go, in which case I'd end up fighting it anyway later. Ultimately easier to just unload my heavy shotgun into them.

    Anyway, I'm done now. Even managed to get the "true" ending, despite not knowing about it until I was more than halfway through the game.
  • -Drake--Drake- -dn ʎɐʍ sıɥʇ- Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15125Members
    From the looks of things in the upcoming sequel they went with the "destroy the darkones" which is a shame since I'm curious as to how everything would have worked out with the darkones not actually being bad and all.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    It's the canonical ending from the book, too.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    I found it really hard to want to continue playing this game.

    I'd load it up, play it for a while and enjoy it quite a lot, but then after I'd closed it for whatever reason (done for now, had to go out, bedtime, whatever), I never had any urge to actually start it up again. After forcing myself to do so a couple of times (and, once again, enjoying the game whilst actually playing it), I never bothered again.

    Very odd.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    How are the loading times? It's easy to get the act of starting a game up disassociated with any fun you have in it if it takes too long to go from one to the other.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Your mileage will differ of course, but my harddrives weren't the fastest on the market when I bought them in '08 and I never had any issue. Artyom does a little monologue during each loading screen, and the game always finished loading before he did, so you could just click to continue the moment he finished talking.
  • ellnicellnic Join Date: 2010-07-19 Member: 72559Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1959091:date=Aug 8 2012, 01:07 PM:name=Drake1)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Drake1 @ Aug 8 2012, 01:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1959091"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Librarians....

    Oh the nightmares X[<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Probebly the scariest game enemy I have ever seen.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1959634:date=Aug 9 2012, 09:46 AM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Align @ Aug 9 2012, 09:46 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1959634"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How are the loading times? It's easy to get the act of starting a game up disassociated with any fun you have in it if it takes too long to go from one to the other.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Was never a problem. M&B Warband takes longer to load up than Metro 2033 and I put a disturbing amount of time into Warband.

    I'm not sure what it is about the game. STALKER hit me the same too. While I'm playing it, I legitimately enjoy the experience. After I've closed it, I have literally zero desire to open the game up again, even though I know when I'm playing it I'll enjoy it.
  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    Well this game is also a pain in the ass due to the low ammo and gas mask filters, it was tons of fun to play through it but I can see why someone would have little urge to start the game up. I first played it when it came out, haven't replayed it since.
  • InkInk Join Date: 2009-08-15 Member: 68499Members
    I remember quicksave when I was playing it, did you play it on PC?
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Yes, I played it on the PC. No, there is no quicksave. There is no manual saving at all, only predefined checkpoints. I just went back to double-check, so I'm fairly sure of this.
  • ellnicellnic Join Date: 2010-07-19 Member: 72559Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I played it on my brothers Xbox befor I got it in the christmas sale 2 christmas's ago and I don't remember a quicksave or a save while playing button on either.
  • rantologyrantology Join Date: 2012-02-05 Member: 143750Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold
    <!--quoteo(post=1959091:date=Aug 8 2012, 05:07 AM:name=Drake1)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Drake1 @ Aug 8 2012, 05:07 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1959091"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Librarians....

    Oh the nightmares X[<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I hated these so much I didn't bother with the cat/mouse aspect. I just killed them all :3
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1959958:date=Aug 9 2012, 07:10 PM:name=ellnic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ellnic @ Aug 9 2012, 07:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1959958"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Probebly the scariest game enemy I have ever seen.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I absolutely loved the tension when one spotted you. They would walk up, stare at you really close in the face, and then run off or fight you. ###### was awesome.

    Beating Metro 2033 on the hardest setting was incredibly fun. Its best to use the arrow weapons/throwing knives as they can be picked back up. I thought it was funny how damn deadly the throwing knives are.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    I thought it was funny how you'd try to make stealth kills with them to whittle down the enemy numbers a bit only for them to bounce off a helmet or something. Oh wait no that was bull###### and lame.
  • ellnicellnic Join Date: 2010-07-19 Member: 72559Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1962155:date=Aug 13 2012, 12:36 PM:name=Drfuzzy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Drfuzzy @ Aug 13 2012, 12:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962155"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I absolutely loved the tension when one spotted you. They would walk up, stare at you really close in the face, and then run off or fight you. ###### was awesome.

    Beating Metro 2033 on the hardest setting was incredibly fun. Its best to use the arrow weapons/throwing knives as they can be picked back up. I thought it was funny how damn deadly the throwing knives are.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah I loved using the Helsing. The first time around I went in guns blanzing everywhere, the second time I bought the Stealth Armor in Armory Station instead of the heavy and went all out stealthy.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    I completely missed out on any kind of armour in Armory, and from what I've read I'm not the only one. Really easy to miss apparently.
  • -Drake--Drake- -dn ʎɐʍ sıɥʇ- Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15125Members
    Not only that its also incredible expensive, I don't remember exactly what either cost but I can remember making a stupid face when I seen the price...
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    One hundred bullits, I believe.
  • InkInk Join Date: 2009-08-15 Member: 68499Members
    I remember the game emphasizing a lot on stealth, but it was almost never an option, I tried stealth kills all game only to find out the only true stealth kill items that make no sound are the throwing knives, and most of the time, the arrows.

    Other than that, even silenced pistol shots make the enemys scream and alerts everyone, or enemys are too close to each other and taking one out always alerts everyone.

    The game was amazing regardless.

    Last Light looks like they fixed all those problems and it looks awesome.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Stealth was only really an option if you didn't try to kill anyone.
  • ellnicellnic Join Date: 2010-07-19 Member: 72559Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I killed most people using stealth. Expecially those NAZI SCUMM!!!! Only diffrence killing stealthy peopel makes is that every enemy in the area isnt alerted and suddenly shooting at you.
  • KhyronKhyron Join Date: 2012-02-02 Member: 143308Members
    edited August 2012
    I finished Metro 2033 but so much of what you guys said in this thread is unfamiliar to me... I don't remember "librarians". I don't remember buying armour. I don't remember having problems with saves...

    I do remember it being immersive and scary (not as bad as Doom 3 but less than the scary parts of Stalker). I had a feeling there were multiple endings once I'd finished it, but I think I wasn't sure where you could go differently? I really liked the gas mask system, but there were air filters <i>everywhere</i> which detracted from the stress. It was more the psychological impact of the muffled sound, slightly blurred vision and the notion that time was ticking away. At times the bad english translations added to the immersion but sometimes it just felt like bad voice acting.

    I also remember it being insanely demanding on the graphics cards but not having all that much to show for it, unfortunately. They weren't clever about making it look good, they just used more grunt for more pollies I think. Some of the textures and lighting was not so great.

    PS: I youtubed the librarians and yeah I do remember them now. I didn't realise they could be avoided, pretty sure I shotgunned them all... After playing all the stalkers I assumed (correctly) that you're best off to carry a shotgun for critters and a rifle for humans.
  • ellnicellnic Join Date: 2010-07-19 Member: 72559Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I Never realy used the shotgun much. When playing stealth I used the Helisng alot. When just shooting everything I used the voltdriver alot, it was good taking down most enemies and quickly killed librarians too
  • TemphageTemphage Join Date: 2009-10-28 Member: 69158Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1958833:date=Aug 8 2012, 02:17 AM:name=ellnic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ellnic @ Aug 8 2012, 02:17 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1958833"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This game is brilliant. I did the ending where you save the darkones and not kill them. Metro: Last Light looks even better. Takes paer in 2034, a year after the vents in this this game. Should be out next year, a 6 month pushback from the original date<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, that ending is the best ending.

    Play it on Ranger Hardcore for ultimate experience :)
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