Can I run Natural Selection 2

newb420newb420 Join Date: 2012-09-18 Member: 159845Members
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Hello,

I'm just having some trouble tracking down info on my older video card and wanted to know if I could run NS2 or not. Here is my set-up. Thanks for your time.

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120330-1504)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
System Model: Satellite A200
BIOS: Ver 1.00PARTTBL
Processor: Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU T5450 @ 1.66GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.7GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 1082MB used, 3010MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode



Card name: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9581)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9581&SUBSYS_FF001179&REV_00
Display Memory: 1012 MB
Dedicated Memory: 245 MB
Shared Memory: 767 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: unknown
Monitor Id: LPLDD00
Native Mode: 1280 x 800(p) (59.910Hz)
Output Type: Internal
Driver Name: atiumdag.dll,atiumdva.cap,atitmmxx.dll
Driver File Version: 7.14.0010.0523 (English)
Driver Version: 8.413.3.0
DDI Version: 10
Driver Model: WDDM 1.0
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/4/2011 11:32:58, 3021312 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D6C1-11CF-C270-0ADFA1C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x9581
SubSys ID: 0xFF001179
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem7.inf:ATI.Mfg:BR_53530_ati2mtag_M76:8.413.3.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_9581&subsys_ff001179
Rank Of Driver: 00F60001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
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  • ObraxisObraxis Subnautica Animator & Generalist, NS2 Person Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30071Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, WC 2013 - Supporter, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    edited September 2012
    Hi there. I'm afraid you're below minimum specs. It might run, but not great. This may improve with time, but your specs are not good for most new 3D game releases now.

    Minimum:

    OS:Windows 7 32/64-bit / Vista 32/64 / XP
    Processor:Core 2 Duo 2.6 ghz
    Memory:2 GB RAM
    Graphics:DirectX 9 compatible video card with 1GB, ATI X800, NVidia 8600 or better
    DirectX®:9.0
    Hard Drive:5 GB HD space
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  • newb420newb420 Join Date: 2012-09-18 Member: 159845Members
    Is it the video card holding me back? The processor thing has me a bit confused. Since I have 1.66GHz (2 CPUs) does that mean 1.66+1.66=3.32ghz? I'm pretty sure I run games that require more than 1.66ghz.
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  • DghelneshiDghelneshi Aims to surpass Fana in post edits. Join Date: 2011-11-01 Member: 130634Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited September 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1979775:date=Sep 18 2012, 11:18 PM:name=newb420)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (newb420 @ Sep 18 2012, 11:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1979775"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is it the video card holding me back? The processor thing has me a bit confused. Since I have 1.66GHz (2 CPUs) does that mean 1.66+1.66=3.32ghz? I'm pretty sure I run games that require more than 1.66ghz.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No.

    Actually yes and no.
    Yes, your video card is holding you back, but it is also your CPU. Both are WAY below minimum specs. 2GB RAM is also stretching it. No, you cannot just add CPU frequencies of multiple cores together.
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  • newb420newb420 Join Date: 2012-09-18 Member: 159845Members
    Okay. Thanks for your help!
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  • GravycakesGravycakes Join Date: 2012-09-10 Member: 158965Members
    Posting here to not flood forums with new threads:

    How well will NS2 run?

    Intel Core 2 Duo - 3.0GHZ
    6GB DDR2 RAM
    HD Radeon 6850 - 1GB
    Windows 7 64 Bit

    thanks for your time!
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  • meowsmeows Join Date: 2008-10-14 Member: 65201Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1979952:date=Sep 19 2012, 03:32 AM:name=Gravycakes)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gravycakes @ Sep 19 2012, 03:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1979952"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Posting here to not flood forums with new threads:

    How well will NS2 run?

    Intel Core 2 Duo - 3.0GHZ
    6GB DDR2 RAM
    HD Radeon 6850 - 1GB
    Windows 7 64 Bit

    thanks for your time!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Yes.

    I was running NS2 on a:
    Core 2 duo 3.0ghz
    8GB
    Nvidia GTX9800+ (very old card)

    @ 720p @ ~30fps

    Given the improvements NS2 has had as it moves towards 1.0
    I can't see any reason why you couldn't run NS2 adequately.
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  • GISPGISP Battle Gorge Denmark Join Date: 2004-03-20 Member: 27460Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Gold, Subnautica Playtester, Forum staff
    <!--quoteo(post=1979952:date=Sep 19 2012, 04:32 AM:name=Gravycakes)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gravycakes @ Sep 19 2012, 04:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1979952"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Posting here to not flood forums with new threads:

    How well will NS2 run?

    Intel Core 2 Duo - 3.0GHZ
    6GB DDR2 RAM
    HD Radeon 6850 - 1GB
    Windows 7 64 Bit

    thanks for your time!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Vary simelar to my system, but i only have 3GB ram and run winXP
    Heavy battles are a big nono atm, but i see improvements in every build.
    Its totaly playable if you like me play a more objective based playstyle, killing structures, ambushing single marines and avoid the big team battles.
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  • m'aiq the liarm'aiq the liar Join Date: 2012-09-21 Member: 160220Members
    Wanted to ask the same thing, so I won't start new thread.
    I'm really looking forward to the game, thinking about pre-ordering, but afraid whether it will run properly, here are my specs:

    OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3
    CPU: Intel® Core™2 Duo E4500 2.20GHz
    Videocard: nVidia GeForce GTS 450 1GB
    RAM: 2 GB
    HDD space is enough
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  • TrCTrC Join Date: 2008-11-30 Member: 65612Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1981350:date=Sep 21 2012, 05:09 PM:name=m'aiq the liar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (m'aiq the liar @ Sep 21 2012, 05:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1981350"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Wanted to ask the same thing, so I won't start new thread.
    I'm really looking forward to the game, thinking about pre-ordering, but afraid whether it will run properly, here are my specs:

    OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3
    CPU: Intel® Core™2 Duo E4500 2.20GHz
    Videocard: nVidia GeForce GTS 450 1GB
    RAM: 2 GB
    HDD space is enough<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Very tough, will work but not very well fe. low fps cant track. Ask again closer to release.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited September 2012
    If my old E6420 overclocked to 3.4Ghz was already struggling with it hovering between 20-30FPS, I'd say a E4500 @ 2.2Ghz will have much more trouble. Currently I'd expect around 15FPS in combat for that CPU, where my E6420 had 15-18 @ 2.13Ghz. That is at stock speed (2.13Ghz) and no more than 6 people in a room, going over that magic number and the FPS would tank to 8-11FPS.


    It's also below minimum specs, which is C2D 2.6Ghz.



    So all in all, it can run and might run it better at launch in October. But it would be a gamble. The CPU in your rig is the main deciding factor for this as the 2Gb RAM and 1Gb video card are plenty for low. But do expect a bit of hitching until everything is loaded into memory (seeing it for the first time). Which meant that a second round will be smoother.

    Or you could do what I sometimes did, run a local host and "give" or "spawn" cheat all units and stuff into game before joining a server :P
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  • m'aiq the liarm'aiq the liar Join Date: 2012-09-21 Member: 160220Members
    Thanks, guys! I know that my CPU is weak nowadays... Hoping to buy a new rig in a year.:)
    What a nice community btw.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited September 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1981422:date=Sep 21 2012, 04:39 PM:name=m'aiq the liar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (m'aiq the liar @ Sep 21 2012, 04:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1981422"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thanks, guys! I know that my CPU is weak nowadays... Hoping to buy a new rig in a year.:)
    What a nice community btw.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Taken from mah YouTube channel page for easy copypasting :P

    <b>Retired rig, Ancient Relic:</b>

    Intel C2D E6420 @ 3.4Ghz, 1700FSB

    Asus P5B Motherboard

    OCZ Reaper 2Gb DDR2-800@ 425Mhz

    Sapphire HD4850 512Mb GDDR3 (also tried it with a Asus HD5870 1024Mb GDDR5, much less hitching and a bit more FPS as well)

    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate


    I still think that is the absolute minimum config for the current beta, but there are a few builds left and performance has been increasing with each for that rig. Can't be entirely sure about the FPS now as I've not run it for over 2 builds (Build217 and it was playable on the overclock@ 20-30FPS in combat with low end at 18FPS and high end ad 45FPS, current build is 220)
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  • statikgstatikg Join Date: 2012-09-19 Member: 159978Members
    Intel Core i5 760 Quad Core 2.8GHz Processor
    AMD Radeon HD 7770
    4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1600 RAM
    Gigabyte H55N-USB3 Mini ITX LGA1156 Motherboard


    What do you guys think about this for playing the game?
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  • MOOtantMOOtant Join Date: 2010-06-25 Member: 72158Members
    Every computer like the one you have should work (I don't remember if 7770 is slower than 4870). In worst case you'll have to overclock until CPU bottlenecks are eliminated.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited September 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1981461:date=Sep 21 2012, 05:42 PM:name=MOOtant)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MOOtant @ Sep 21 2012, 05:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1981461"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Every computer like the one you have should work (I don't remember if 7770 is slower than 4870). In worst case you'll have to overclock until CPU bottlenecks are eliminated.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This compare site is quite interesting, just pure hardware compare and sometimes they benchmark FPS

    <a href="http://www.hwcompare.com/11969/radeon-hd-4870-1gb-vs-radeon-hd-7770/" target="_blank">http://www.hwcompare.com/11969/radeon-hd-4...radeon-hd-7770/</a>
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  • DghelneshiDghelneshi Aims to surpass Fana in post edits. Join Date: 2011-11-01 Member: 130634Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1981494:date=Sep 21 2012, 08:32 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Sep 21 2012, 08:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1981494"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This compare site is quite <b>irrelevant</b><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fixed that for you.
    Theoretical values like these do not directly relate to actual game performance. It only works within one architechture/series if at all. I have seen 3 different cards having very different values for memory bandwidth, pixel fillrate, etc. but they actually perform exactly the same in games.
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  • TurbineTurbine Join Date: 2012-09-13 Member: 159160Members
    As a lot of people with high end desktops are struggling getting high frame rates, a low end ancient laptop like that wouldn't be playable.
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