The Return of the Wasabi Cup

WasabiOne

<div class="IPBDescription">what shall it be?..... RR Me Thinks</div><div align='center'><img src="http://www.wasabione.com/images/wasabicup2.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></div>

Alrighty, so I spent an hour or so last night chatting with a bunch of people in teamspeak and I have been sold on the Round Robin format. However; there are lots of logistics to work out, this is where you all come in....

I need your Help! Give me clear ideas for what type of round robin format you think will work best for 8 - 16 teams.

The Event is scheduled to take place November 17-18, 2012. Times and such to be discussed once we have rules and bracket concept designed. Please work with me to move this along quickly and smoothly!

swalk

Nice, definitely looking forward to this one. Where do we sign up? ;)
Round robin is definitely the best format for NS2. Depending on the size of the tourney you can just split teams into groups.
Those groups could benefit from being regional games.

Thats my two cents.
Good effort, it is appreciated. Even if it doesn't always seem like it.

WasabiOne

you can send me your team sign up to NS2@WASABIONE.COM

GORGEous

One of the easiest ways to look at the RR format is to use this RR generator. <a href="http://www.printyourbrackets.com/round-robin-generator.php" target="_blank">http://www.printyourbrackets.com/round-robin-generator.php</a>

So for this example, let's say you have 12 teams and wanted to try a RR-12 -> RR-6 -> finals-bo5

You'd go to my link above, # of teams 12, # of pools 3. Play. This RR-12 would be 3 rounds in length (6 halves, ~3 hours). Then you pull out the top 2 from each team and make a second bracket with # of teams 6, # of pools 1. Play. This RR-6 would 5 rounds (~5 hours). Pull out the top two teams and then you play a bo5 finals (1.5 - 2.5 hours). You could do this in one weekend.
The above example is basically a RR version of the Guru tournament (12 teams). The guru tournament will be ~9-11 rounds counting a bo5 as 2 rounds. But counting tie breakers, the guru tournament could run up to 50% longer with a lot of tie breakers.


There are a lot of things you can do with the RR brackets. You have a lot more flexibility than with standard elimination tournaments. Another option with a RR-12 is to split into two groups (maybe NA group and EU group) and then pull out the top 2 teams from each group. Then play a single eliminations semi-finals with top NA vs 2nd EU and top EU vs 2nd NA. Then a finals of the winner of those two previous games. It could create some excitement -- will we have a double euro finals?!?!

You can really tailor these RR brackets to fit any time frame. You can also do some wonky things by using RR to seed into a smaller RR into a finals. Or you can simply have one huge RR where the winner is the team with the best record at the end -- no eliminations.


If you have more specific guidelines for # of teams and time frame (10 hours of play time? or 15 hours of playtime?) then I can think about it some more and hammer out specific ideas.

ScardyBob

I'd say:
4v4 RR brackets used to see a 8 person SE tourny (i.e. top two from each RR go into the SE tourny). So, Day 1 would be the RR and day 2 would be the SE final.

Flipper

There should be a tournament EVERY day.

Kouji_San

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That (well, need moar teamsNstuffs) and Wasabi should grow/shape his Mustachio like that :P

WasabiOne

Still looking for more input and teams to sign up. I want to really give this Round Robin format a big shot, but I need you guys to pull it off.

Scrajm

Where do you sign up? Arc is in anyways..

Locklear

Nexzil is in.

ArcL!ght

I'll ask in my due time cause I notice a lot of hostility here for no reason.

What about my casts?

If I cannot get answer in one month, then really.

WasabiOne

Arc you can cast this one... sure, also what hostility?

PLEASE NOTE CAPTAINS PLEASE EMAIL ME, ns2@wasabione.com

this way I can actually send out emails for meetings and such...

Dghelneshi

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I would suggest you edit that into the opening post. Not all people read the whole thread. :)

eh?

And make a template / empty web page for all the tournament info now rather than later so that when you're finalizing rules, format, brackets, etc... you can just add them to the page.

WasabiOne

Well folks after much though and consideration, I have to postpone this event till wither later in Nov or sometime in Dec. unfortunatley my schedule is too frantic to give this event the attention it needs to run smoothly and create a good event for all those involved.

Thank you to all who signed up, i will continue to work on this and when I feel like we can pull it off correctly I will announce again!

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!