Hypermutation + feign death is broken?

Cim

<div class="IPBDescription">basically gives you immortality</div>If you combine hypermutation and feign death, you can become essentially immortal. Especially if you have an Onos evolved.

Once you start taking too much damage just hypermutate into a lower class (all while taking fire on the egg) with feign death and quickly get away. Since feign death triggers inside the hypermutation egg and you pop out with full health, you basically can't die doing this.

Even if you do manage to take too much fire, feign death will just trigger again and save you... you could even just re-evolve in the middle of battle into an Onos complete with full health / full energy / reset feign death timer.

Here's a video to better demonstrate what I'm talking about:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c3dSrLr6rE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c3dSrLr6rE</a>

As best I can tell the problem is that feign death triggers inside the egg and once the evolution is complete the timer for feign death is also reset. Surely this can't be the way it's supposed to work?

Imbalanxd

Whatever cheat mode you have active in that video is causing you to enter feign death while being an egg. Normally it does not happen.

Sharp-Shooter

<!--quoteo(post=1995206:date=Oct 22 2012, 05:52 PM:name=Cim)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cim @ Oct 22 2012, 05:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1995206"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If you combine hypermutation and feign death, you can become essentially immortal. Especially if you have an Onos evolved.

Once you start taking too much damage just hypermutate into a lower class (all while taking fire on the egg) with feign death and quickly get away. Since feign death triggers inside the hypermutation egg and you pop out with full health, you basically can't die doing this.

Even if you do manage to take too much fire, feign death will just trigger again and save you... you could even just re-evolve in the middle of battle into an Onos complete with full health / full energy / reset feign death timer.

Here's a video to better demonstrate what I'm talking about:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c3dSrLr6rE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c3dSrLr6rE</a>

As best I can tell the problem is that feign death triggers inside the egg and once the evolution is complete the timer for feign death is also reset. Surely this can't be the way it's supposed to work?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
both removed in 224

Skulk vixens in Space

<!--quoteo(post=1995208:date=Oct 22 2012, 02:56 PM:name=Sharp-Shooter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sharp-Shooter @ Oct 22 2012, 02:56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1995208"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->both removed in 224<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

224 Truly is the 2nd coming of christ

Cim

<!--quoteo(post=1995208:date=Oct 22 2012, 01:56 PM:name=Sharp-Shooter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sharp-Shooter @ Oct 22 2012, 01:56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1995208"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->both removed in 224<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good to hear.

TimMc

He isn't a playtester, so I would hold your breath. We can hope both are removed though.

d0ped0g

Yeah, I knew that. It's the combination of quick evolve, eggs having full hp and not a % of what you had before you evolved, and feign death kicking in on the egg. I wouldn't call it invulnerability, and more a method of never losing that 75 res on onos. I've been having fun with it the last couple builds and determined it's waaaaaaaaay OP and exploitative. Usually just use it to be a funny c*nt - e.g. walk directly into marine base as onos, stand completely still and don't do anything while being shot, evolve skulk at the last minute and leap away laughing. Avoided posting anything about it (apart a sidepoint in one of the hypermutation threads) cause hypermutation nerfs are coming already (the full hp fix) which will probably break this anyway, so was planning to test it out in the new build and bring it up if it was still exploitatable.

I have still managed to die doing this - even as an egg, which I found odd (i think there was so much gl spam that even with the quick evolve, and feign death on the egg, my egg still died before it finished evolving). And you really are a sitting duck if you don't evolve in time before feign death kicks in (if you're onos anyway, as you'll get shot the second you unfeign, and if you're in the middle of their base, you'll get shot quicker than you can press b, click skulk, and click evolve). Although 99.9% of the time, even if you evolve right in the middle of their base, you can survive it (as long as you egg before feign death kicks in on the higher lifeform). Wait until 224 comes out though. I'm fairly sure it won't be possible after the changes. If it is though, it definitely needs to be changed.

Sharp-Shooter

<!--quoteo(post=1995253:date=Oct 22 2012, 06:57 PM:name=TimMc)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TimMc @ Oct 22 2012, 06:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1995253"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->He isn't a playtester, so I would hold your breath. We can hope both are removed though.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlocANAW2Y0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlocANAW2Y0</a> 8:30 nuff said

eh?

Pfft, that screen was just there to confuse you. Hypermutation and feign death are just automatically evolved now; don't worry.

GISP

Known bug, will be fixed.