Onos range
Omega_K2
Join Date: 2011-12-25 Member: 139013Members, Reinforced - Shadow
Join Date: 2011-12-25 Member: 139013Members, Reinforced - Shadow
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tl;dr: not just an onos problem
As marine i was very surprised how that onos reach me, but i think it is okay, because of the balance.
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Yeah, that's true, but onos is really ridiculous. Though, being able to hit marines as skulk by biting the AIR BELOW or ABOVE them is pretty stupid, too.
And it's been already nerfed, it used to be impossible to dodge an Onos in any but the tallest rooms.
Oh noes, ###### aliens are landing 25 dmg hits on marines! MASSIVELY raised the skill floor? Let's not exaggerate here. It has brought up the skill floor for sure, but it's still nowhere near where the skill floor is for marines. Huge skulk models, better movement responsiveness AND more damage/tankier as the game progresses. (Not to mention that shooting things is inherently simpler for the average player than melee combat ever will be)
The only thing this change does is it effectively makes skulk play more forgiving. The 75 dmg cone is still the same size, you still need good aim to be truly effective, as well as good movement skill to actually get in close on the marine. Granted bigger skulk groups have become noticeably more effective, but I don't honestly consider that a bad thing, it was just sad to see 5 skulks go in on 2 marines and half of them not landing any hits.
Raising the skill floor doesn't really affect competitive play, it only makes public play more manageable and more enjoyable for aliens, without making the experience any worse for marines.
All I see both ingame and on the forums, in regards to this change, is elitist players complaining about changes that give the average and newer player at least somewhat a fighting chance. Never mind the fact that these changes don't affect them personally, they just want the game to be harder for everyone, just for the sake of it.
that's exactly it, you're right.
it's not that gameplay will be extremely stale when there is little difference between an average skulk and an amazing skulk.
or that there's no challenge to improve your skulk play when you can simply hold down the fire key and almost be guaranteed to come out ahead.
however, as silly as the bite is, I don't argue that 223 skulks did need <i>some</i> kind of change. the early-game combat seems to be more balanced, but in a very "wrong" way.
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The difference between an average skulk and an amazing skulk lies not only in the fact that the average skulk will land successive hits of 25 or 50 dmg, where as the amazing one will land hits of 75, but also in the fact that the amazing skulk will be able to survive for longer (or actually be able to get in close for the kill in the first place...), due to a better grasp of the skulk's movement mechanics and likely land more kills (where as an average one may just die after getting that one kill)
So tell me, how is that 'little difference'? In what universe is the difference between a clean 2 - 3 hits for kill versus 4+ not a significant difference? And how why don't we compare it with marines, where an average player TRULY IS much closer to a good player.
So please, do explain to me why this mechanic is 'silly' and undesirable, because all I'm hearing is elitist whining. It would seem that some players here simply don't spend a lot of time in pubs, else they would see how the average player struggles as a skulk, even in 224.