<!--QuoteBegin--Flayra+Nov 19 2002, 01:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flayra @ Nov 19 2002, 01:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Any idea how he crashed it? I can easily fix the problem for v1.03 if it's reproducible.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Once one fella crashed my server doing this with flooding text like hell..
<!--QuoteBegin--Winkie+Nov 19 2002, 06:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Winkie @ Nov 19 2002, 06:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What the **obscenity**? shut up, nic cards have 100 meg/s bandwidth, this person neither crashed the server nor ping flooded to over 100 meg/second <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well.. wont be hard crash your server down. Just need to do DDOS attack and no mate how fast/big your connection is. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
This is insane because group of people really want to do harm to gameservers just for fun. I know some persons who really does that kind of **obscenity**. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Hardee+Nov 20 2002, 12:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hardee @ Nov 20 2002, 12:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->At least provide some demos and screenshots ffs.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Funny that in the thread about Pee Pee Boy you seemed quite certain that demos, screenshots, logs, and eye-witness testimony from multiple, independent, and presumptively reliable sources was not proof enough. It seems like your standard constantly shifts until people can't meet it. Convenient, that.
I decided to register just to make this one little comment:
Hardee, you seem to be missing one tiny little point; it is probably escaping you because no one has made it absolutely explicit. Actually you'll probably find some way to misinterpret it anyway, but I digress. Here's the deal. This public message board on the Internet is not the same as a Court of law in the United States. This annoying individual--and he need be nothing more--has no Constitution to protect her/his right to play on a public server run by someone else. Moreover, even if such a right did exist, and the Constitution were actively enforced in cyberspace, it still doesn't apply between private individuals. The Bill of Rights only limits <b>state</b> action, not private action. If I choose to not let you into a store I own, that is my prerogative. You have no absolute right to be there. Additionally, I would assert that the evidence against Pee Pee Boy would meet the level required for conviction of some hypothetical crime.
In the end, it comes down to this:
As a server operator, I don't have to care if that WONID listed in this thread is a legitimate player, cheater, or disruption. I can permaban if I don't like someone's name. Now I don't do that, but I would be within my rights to do it. I try to be reasonable, but only because I'm a nice guy. I do not have to be fair. And in the end, why should I care if some random individual can't play on my server? It would seem likely that until I have a banned.cfg listing thousands of players, the load on my server would remain consistent regardless who I ban. Sure having good admins brings people back to servers, and bad admins drive people away, but there are a lot of people playing this game. It would take a long time until they all learn that I exercise my admin powers arbitrarily.
<!--QuoteBegin--DrGiggles+Nov 20 2002, 01:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrGiggles @ Nov 20 2002, 01:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Pinging can crash servers, but usually the ping will crash the whole server, or in most cases render it useless (DoS attack?)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well.. I know a little bit what need to do when someone tries hack your server. Send your logs and your isp logs to hackers ISP. It will be stopped and fast. Belive me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Just started up our clan server for the first time and some fool called "DIE 9/11" came on and overflowed everyone on the server. I hadn't got logging or even an rcon password setup yet. But I saw lots of nextmap, and listmap commands scrolling over the server console. I thought this was a known adminmod problem? We don't have adminmod installed, it's just your bare NS setup.
I don't want to install adminmod as were try to keep the cpu usage to a minimum.
i was using clanmod and was waiting for the fix for adminmod.. using adminmod actually lowered my cpu usage and false lag issues.. between using AM and not using it i have seen no differences. with adminmod there is a crash that has something to do with the fun plugin.. i wont put it here because we dont need the children with attitudes using it.. but the best bet if you run AM is get the antiflood plugin and disable the fun plugin. dont just turn the fun plugin off disable it all together.. the attack can still hit disabled fun.
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Once one fella crashed my server doing this with flooding text like hell..
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Well.. wont be hard crash your server down. Just need to do DDOS attack and no mate how fast/big your connection is. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
This is insane because group of people really want to do harm to gameservers just for fun. I know some persons who really does that kind of **obscenity**. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
Funny that in the thread about Pee Pee Boy you seemed quite certain that demos, screenshots, logs, and eye-witness testimony from multiple, independent, and presumptively reliable sources was not proof enough. It seems like your standard constantly shifts until people can't meet it. Convenient, that.
I decided to register just to make this one little comment:
Hardee, you seem to be missing one tiny little point; it is probably escaping you because no one has made it absolutely explicit. Actually you'll probably find some way to misinterpret it anyway, but I digress. Here's the deal. This public message board on the Internet is not the same as a Court of law in the United States. This annoying individual--and he need be nothing more--has no Constitution to protect her/his right to play on a public server run by someone else. Moreover, even if such a right did exist, and the Constitution were actively enforced in cyberspace, it still doesn't apply between private individuals. The Bill of Rights only limits <b>state</b> action, not private action. If I choose to not let you into a store I own, that is my prerogative. You have no absolute right to be there. Additionally, I would assert that the evidence against Pee Pee Boy would meet the level required for conviction of some hypothetical crime.
In the end, it comes down to this:
As a server operator, I don't have to care if that WONID listed in this thread is a legitimate player, cheater, or disruption. I can permaban if I don't like someone's name. Now I don't do that, but I would be within my rights to do it. I try to be reasonable, but only because I'm a nice guy. I do not have to be fair. And in the end, why should I care if some random individual can't play on my server? It would seem likely that until I have a banned.cfg listing thousands of players, the load on my server would remain consistent regardless who I ban. Sure having good admins brings people back to servers, and bad admins drive people away, but there are a lot of people playing this game. It would take a long time until they all learn that I exercise my admin powers arbitrarily.
Well.. I know a little bit what need to do when someone tries hack your server. Send your logs and your isp logs to hackers ISP. It will be stopped and fast. Belive me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I don't want to install adminmod as were try to keep the cpu usage to a minimum.
Flayra can you stop this for the next release?