Stop The Converting!
Commando
Join Date: 2002-05-22 Member: 657Members, NS1 Playtester
Join Date: 2002-05-22 Member: 657Members, NS1 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">Starting to feel like CS 'modeling'...</div> Someone else drew my attention to this and I agree with their opinion.
Quit with the converting.
There are too many damn conversions, I want to see some originality! This is the kind of thing you get on most CS model sites, hacked together conversions of other peoples weapons, player models etc...
I don't make the rules here, but I think one of them should be no conversions. Go make some real models, get some practise in with Milkshape or similar and impress us (It's also a good skill, you can get some nice jobs in CAD!). Don't live off other peoples work.
Thanks
Quit with the converting.
There are too many damn conversions, I want to see some originality! This is the kind of thing you get on most CS model sites, hacked together conversions of other peoples weapons, player models etc...
I don't make the rules here, but I think one of them should be no conversions. Go make some real models, get some practise in with Milkshape or similar and impress us (It's also a good skill, you can get some nice jobs in CAD!). Don't live off other peoples work.
Thanks
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The previous comment exists because commando <i> asked </i> for a flame. I can find nothing wrong with commando's idea.
EDIT - changed a critical error in the wording. Apparently it had been up in it's current form for a week, and RM starting harassing me in the EC chat. arrgh.
modellers like me are too lazy to do our own work unless we are getting paid
if you want to give me some money to make something i will, thats how i work
i dont make my own stuff because there are always annoying retards who dont know
a damned thing trying to critisize it for something completely ignorant
oh well, convertings are also easier than making new models, so bleh
but i find it easier to just convert something rather than waste my time on something
half assed, im all for people making new stuff but i doubt i ever would, im sure we can
get some people here who will make some cool weapon replacements cause thats all anybody
actually models nowadays
Each and every time i see someone converting one of my models for another mod, I take it as a compliment.
The fact that someone likes my model enough to spend hours converting it for another mod is a great feeling.
Plus, it gives new life to the model.
I also do conversions. I did a ton of them for the Firearms mod. Hell, im sort of a "converting god" over at their modeling forum! I even did a few tutorials.
Chill out guys. NS was just released a few weeks ago. You can't expect people to start dishing out models as fast as they did in the CS modeling community.
For me, the #1 reason i don't model much anymore, is that i can never find a good skinner/skinmesher for my models. I've got dozens of models that will probably never get released unless i find a few good skinners.
I've seen BP model for a year? 2 years? now, and I think I've only seen a couple released. There are very few good skinmeshers, animators, and skinners, of the type you'd need for this mod.
I've released large quantities of models (300+ I guess by now) that I converted, and the only people I find who complain about converting are modelers and skinners who aren't very good, and so their work gets ignored.
Also, this isn't a long established mod with a built up community, its been out a month, and almost no one I know can create more than 1-2 finished products that fast. You want original models, either make them yourself, or drag in people from outside.
If U don't like the conversions..who cares? That's personal opinion..we all have rights to be lazy..although i must say it's a sad thing when we have few enthusiastic modlers, one enthusiastic modler is Black panther, he likes what he does..and likes to c our community flourish :x..I like innovative ideas which are new but some I don't like....some conversions suck and some I like..it shouldn't matter if they have been converted if u like them ..u like them and vice versa
1. Its something I personally want to use, and i release it because other people might want to use it also.
2. Someone requested something to be converted and I did it to fill request.
But I'm slowly learning how to really skin from scratch.
Hella hard.
I've released large quantities of models (300+ I guess by now) that I converted, and the only people I find who complain about converting are modelers and skinners who aren't very good, and so their work gets ignored.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Close to 5 years.
Only been modeling for HL for 3.
Before that, i was doing 3d models for Jedi Knight : Dark Forces 2
And i release very little stuff, because i aim for quality, not quantity.
I've done over 500 models in my time. (sadly most were lost during my big HD crash of june <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> )
and I'm that convert freak [HR]Hellraiser <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I want something crazy that is orignal.
I want something crazy that is orignal.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
amen brother.
I want something crazy that is orignal.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Working on it.... I'm no modeller, more of a concept artist. More info soon....
I'm going to post my comments on this tomorrow, right now SLEEEEEP.
I think people need to stop complaining that people want custom models, that just happen to be already made for other hl mods. Many things can fit into this mod, especially with the design, and it's only natural that all of that stuff will be done before original works comes about.
Give it time, give it time, and please, give the "conversion bashing" a rest. Use what you like, if you don't like something, don't use it, and don't say a word. Constructive critisism has a place, but not needless spam about why you don't understand how people could want new models, or why they aren't making original work instead of this "crap". It's pointless and it just starts flamewars.
and I'm that convert freak [HR]Hellraiser <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
IT'S YOU!
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nice to see you remember me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I want something crazy that is orignal.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
if you want something crazy and original, make your own stuff if you aren't happy at the rate in which things are going.
make your own origional works or stfu