Invasion of the Cysts

MaxunitMaxunit Join Date: 2005-02-01 Member: 39414Members, Reinforced - Shadow
edited November 2012 in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Or: How to place to many Cysts for Spark to handle.</div>Heyo,

I don't know, if anyone else actually tried that and I did not count the number of Cysts now, which I have placed.

Anyway, I just want to share this experience, while I was testing the newest nVidia Beta Drivers.

I literally placed so many Cysts (Local Server), that the Spark Engine gave up.

I was unable to build more Cysts and I was unable to leave the Commander Mode. The console was spammed non-stop with the following (picture). My FPS dropped to 15 - 17.

<a href="http://www.vgunetwork.com/tomanycystsforspark_ns2.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.vgunetwork.com/tomanycystsforspark_ns2.jpg</a>

It was on ns2_veil and check out the mini map at the bottom, you can see, that I covered nearly the entire map with cysts (I could have covered it entirely, yes, I know) and placed a lot of them to be sure, that everything is COMPLETLY infected.

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  • SpaceJewSpaceJew Join Date: 2012-09-03 Member: 157584Members
    Wow, I'd actually be interested to see what the ground view was...
  • IdlerayIdleray Join Date: 2012-10-04 Member: 161464Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    how many cysts did you put down?
  • MaxunitMaxunit Join Date: 2005-02-01 Member: 39414Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I will do that again in a moment and will try to cover the entire map. Then I will try to get out of the Commander Mode before the game goes "Derp" all over the place.
  • MaxunitMaxunit Join Date: 2005-02-01 Member: 39414Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=2022829:date=Nov 14 2012, 04:45 AM:name=Idleray)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Idleray @ Nov 14 2012, 04:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2022829"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->how many cysts did you put down?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I haven't counted...but a ######load, to be honest.
  • OnosFactoryOnosFactory New Zealand Join Date: 2008-07-16 Member: 64637Members
    Heh, server: too many entities. Poor thing!
  • SehzadeSehzade Join Date: 2010-12-29 Member: 76024Members
    I placed around 30 whips in explore mode. I was not able to drop more. "too many entities" or sth like that popped up.
  • ThelionheartThelionheart Join Date: 2012-11-10 Member: 169317Members
    Judging from the console it looks like you placed 823 cysts down.
  • DawormDaworm Join Date: 2009-06-22 Member: 67900Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2022834:date=Nov 14 2012, 02:53 PM:name=Thelionheart)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thelionheart @ Nov 14 2012, 02:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2022834"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Judging from the console it looks like you placed 823 cysts down.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, that's an element id or something.

    I doubt they placed 887 hive's down.
  • MaxunitMaxunit Join Date: 2005-02-01 Member: 39414Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited November 2012
    I managed it again to place enough cysts to infestate the entire map, but this time without bursting the limits from the Spark Engine.

    If anyone is interested in a gallery of 24 images showing ns2_veil in a (mostly) infested way. Then I will upload the Screenshots to my Steam Profile.

    EDIT:

    Oh, and I found a few places, where I could place Cysts outside the map.
  • DawormDaworm Join Date: 2009-06-22 Member: 67900Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2022846:date=Nov 14 2012, 03:17 PM:name=Maxunit)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Maxunit @ Nov 14 2012, 03:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2022846"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I managed it again to place enough cysts to infestate the entire map, but this time without bursting the limits from the Spark Engine.

    If anyone is interested in a gallery of 24 images showing ns2_veil in a (mostly) infested way. Then I will upload the Screenshots to my Steam Profile.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Do it!

    <!--quoteo(post=2022846:date=Nov 14 2012, 03:17 PM:name=Maxunit)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Maxunit @ Nov 14 2012, 03:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2022846"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->EDIT:

    Oh, and I found a few places, where I could place Cysts outside the map.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've done that occasionally, then tried to spam crags or similar into those locations with no success :( Kinda looks good when the infestation is coming from the roof then instead of the floor.

    I'm going to see if I can find a small chain of infestation that I can plant on / in the roof so as to prevent the cysts being killed.
  • MaxunitMaxunit Join Date: 2005-02-01 Member: 39414Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Ok, but I will upload them elsewhere. I have my on dedicated web server, so I will create a Gallery and upload them to an Album instead of cluttering my Steam Gallery with it :P
  • DawormDaworm Join Date: 2009-06-22 Member: 67900Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2022850:date=Nov 14 2012, 03:24 PM:name=Maxunit)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Maxunit @ Nov 14 2012, 03:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2022850"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ok, but I will upload them elsewhere. I have my on dedicated web server, so I will create a Gallery and upload them to an Album instead of cluttering my Steam Gallery with it :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    oh piffle
  • godriflegodrifle Join Date: 2006-12-01 Member: 58815Members
    I thought Cyst Spamming is a great end game tactic against turtling Marines. If you have 9 resource towers, spam the cysts into their base. Marines and turrets will both unload on these and be caught off-guard when the onos comes in. For the most part, you can spam faster than they can fire, and using a grenade launcher on the cyst spam, while it would work, would definitely be a waste.
  • DawormDaworm Join Date: 2009-06-22 Member: 67900Members
    If they have the turrets set up right....
    <!--quoteo(post=2022853:date=Nov 14 2012, 03:26 PM:name=godrifle)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (godrifle @ Nov 14 2012, 03:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2022853"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->For the most part, you can spam faster than they can fire.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No you cannot.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited November 2012
    See, cyst spam. This is why we can't have nice things :P

    Cap that stuff per location! They eat CPU cycles for breakfast anyway and have been fed enough over the course of alpha/beta/v1.0, if ya ask me :P
  • sushia11sushia11 Join Date: 2012-10-12 Member: 162112Members
    Actually, you may have just given me an explanation for a bug I got a while ago. One day I was one of two people on a server. While we waited for people to join (nobody did) we agreed to be friends. Both of us hopped into the comm chair and the other guy just cysted and shaded the whole entire map (mineshaft). After about 20 minutes, I jumped into the marine chair and the comm interface didn't come up. The other guy reported he couldn't leave the alien comm interface either, nor could he place any more cysts. I was stuck staring at the "Welcome" hologram and he couldn't exit.

    I couldn't F4. For some reason it didn't occur to me to use or look at the console.

    The guy was already in the alien comm interface when the game bugged, so I don't know what happens if the game is already glitched, and you try to get in a hive.
  • ShakerShaker Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9582Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow
    We discovered the entity limit with mines one day. With cheats we were creating mine dominoes across summit. After maybe 400-500 the server just halted. No error messages, just locked. It was a lot of work to not get to see our domino explosion =[
  • RedDragonRedDragon Join Date: 2003-01-13 Member: 12240Members, NS2 Map Tester
    A lot of work, but hilarious and totally worth it.
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