Marine Death

gonkl

<div class="IPBDescription">What it really costs?</div> Besides giving the aliens a free meal......

Does a marine death cost 1 resource, i dunno i just heard ppl talking bout it, wondered what u ppl know.


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CForrester

In tournament mode it costs a certain amount of RP to respawn marines.

Shadowdragon1

Me wonders if aliens cost RP to respawn ? Or if the hive gives birth for free ?

gonkl

So does anyone know, does it cost to respawn marines/aliens in normal play mode?

coil

The only expense for a death/respawn is the equipment (weapons/heavy armor/jetpack) lost when you die.

Dracos

In standard game mode its free to respawn. The weapon you were using when you died is also dropped to ground at the spot you died so if you go back to spot you died you may be able to recover it. Armor however is permanantly lost.

Eidal

When I command, the most problematic deaths occur when you have a total squad wipeout in a location you are trying to secure.

Not only is all equipment on the marines lost (weapons on the floor beneath aliens don't help much), but any structures placed there are as well as lost also. If it was a resource point you were trying to take, then by the time you get back, there might be an alien outpost set up which further compounds your loss.

From a commanders perspective, time is the most crucial resource because you are essentially competing for HA/HMG + upgrades before they get Onos.

Sure, its annoying when you lose a fully equipped marine and have to spend 50+ resources to re-equip him, but in my experiance, I rarely lose HA/HMG marines because they always move in a squad of three at least. Marine deaths are much more common in the LA phase of the game when you are rushing for map control.

A commander would have to mess up bad to lose a squad of three HA/HMG Marines with welders.

Ph0enix

Or he could be facing a good group of aliens.

IronShirtTom

Respawning only costs RPs in Tournament Mode.

However there is one thing to be noted. As you all know the Kharaa each have their own individual resource supply that comes from a pool and is divided amongst them with Gorges getting a bigger share (for obvious reasons). Aliens cannot recieve their share of the resources when they are dead, so if you're waiting to spawn back in for 15 seconds or so you can lose a small chunk of resources that you would've gotten had you been alive. However, since you are not there when the resources for that turn/tick/harvest (whatever) are distributed amongst your team- your teammates get your share. This is another reason why rushing is a REALLY good idea. If you kill the marines- you win. If the marines kill you- your Gorge gets your dead teammate's resources while they're waiting to spawn back in.

NeoMatrixj2

One thing most everyone who plays aliens knows is how to recylce your RP. Just hit f4 and join aliens again. If all aliens except those who are gorge recylce what points they get a begining of round then a defense could go up pretty quick and if they do it mid game then you could get a hive up alot faster.

Injury

Ahem, "recycling resources" is actually an exploit. I dislike Kharaa teams who choose to use this method and will usually find another server if this rampantly occurs as I've seen before.

zoda

Normally respawning is free. So in that case death is cheapier than begging for health packs and ammo.. thats the argument I've heard, but people dont remeber: many times they need guns and armor... so dying cost's more

SkWyReL

In the gamplay i have watched, i noticed that when a team gets resources and starts to win, the other team just keeps loosing. They lose resources, they die much faster, and they have a tendency to have less strategy.

If it would cost resources to respawn, it would only make this worse.

.:SkWyReL:.

KMGor

Is it actually considered an exploit for aliens to leave and come back, so the gorges get their resources? I don't do that normally, but am curious. What does the NS team say?

Injury

Yes.