Commander Ejection Abuse

FrothybeverageFrothybeverage Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13593Members
in NS2 General Discussion
As the title of the thread states, there is a problem with people ejecting commanders due to the low number of votes required to eject.
It also doesn't help that it doesn't say who is doing it.

Suggested fix:
Show who votes to kick commanders.
Add in a vote to kick from the server.
Increase number of voting players to be =<50%
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  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    How much have you REALLY seen this abused though, I mean in theory sure, it can be abused, but I've only had 1 set of people actively abuse it and eject anyone but themselves out of comm in over 300 hours of play.
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  • FrothybeverageFrothybeverage Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13593Members
    edited January 2013
    Once a day since I started playing NS2.

    Two/three idiots on the alien team think it's hilarious to eject the commender repeatedly, until "marines win".

    Edit:
    Maybe I'm just having bad luck.
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  • FuhrerDarqueSydeFuhrerDarqueSyde Join Date: 2004-10-04 Member: 32076Members, Constellation
    it would be nice to have a few server configurable options to control that such as percentage required.

    My biggest annoyance is when I had to use sv_eject because one of my admins messaged me saying he crashed and when he came back he couldn't jump back into the comm chair because I had to eject him and it temporarily bans that person from commanding. I wish there was a way to eject (as an admin) that doesn't 'ban' them from the chair for that round. I also wish simple non-game play affecting mods didn't flag the server but that's a whole other issue.
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  • YMICrazyYMICrazy Join Date: 2012-11-02 Member: 165986Members
    It is not that bad. I think I've seen it once on a official server a month ago. Nothing until then. And it was only because UWE servers have no admins.
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  • AxehiltAxehilt Join Date: 2003-09-12 Member: 20796Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2057144:date=Jan 6 2013, 08:53 PM:name=Ghosthree3)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ghosthree3 @ Jan 6 2013, 08:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2057144"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How much have you REALLY seen this abused though, I mean in theory sure, it can be abused, but I've only had 1 set of people actively abuse it and eject anyone but themselves out of comm in over 300 hours of play.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah I'm at 340 hours and have seen this exactly one time. Seems like an extremely minor issue at the moment, and there are bigger skulks for the devs to fry.
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  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    edited January 2013
    <!--quoteo(post=2057152:date=Jan 6 2013, 06:14 PM:name=YMICrazy502)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (YMICrazy502 @ Jan 6 2013, 06:14 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2057152"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And it was only because UWE servers have no admins.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    False.
    Feel free to message me anytime on steam. Same name, same avatar.
    There are others with admin of course, but I think I'm the only one who publicly announces it in case anyone needs anything.
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  • soccerguy243soccerguy243 Join Date: 2012-12-22 Member: 175920Members, WC 2013 - Supporter
    118.6 never seen this abused.
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  • FrothybeverageFrothybeverage Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13593Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2057164:date=Jan 6 2013, 06:42 PM:name=ironhorse)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ironhorse @ Jan 6 2013, 06:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2057164"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->False.
    Feel free to message me anytime on steam. Same name, same avatar.
    There are others with admin of course, but I think I'm the only one who publicly announces it in case anyone needs anything.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There is 170 "Ironhorse" usernames, or derivatives thereof, care to link to your Steam page?
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  • Omar - The WireOmar - The Wire Join Date: 2012-11-01 Member: 165320Members
    <a href="http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197960471387" target="_blank">http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197960471387</a>

    That one.
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  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    Wow there are a lot of people with my name.. i used to be only one of 10 >_<
    Thanks Omar.

    Just a heads up: i've recently moved to an area with no cable, internet, or sewer etc. So its 4G tethering for a while until i can get proper internet (point to point fixed wireless) and thus my typical "24 hours of the day on steam" is not the case for a while..
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    I've seen it abused a couple times but never to the point the game was unplayable. HOWEVER, I wish there was a voting system similar to Left 4 dead 2.
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  • AzaralAzaral Join Date: 2012-11-19 Member: 172408Members
    I've only seen it abused once really. Two people would switch teams back and forth and eject whoever was commanding. It got to the point that the last guy we had for comm had to jump in do tuff real fast then jum pout.
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  • XaoXao Join Date: 2012-12-12 Member: 174840Members
    @Ghostthree3

    A guy named Patta4y in Aus did it for about 3 days in a row with his ###### mates on UWE servers, I've seen at least 10 more nights of UWE servers getting hit by never ending giant, long, hard ejections by 400+ pingers so I assume that's yuropeans and east coast mericans.

    2 votes in 10 player teams is beyond stupid, should have been hotfixed weeks ago and has ruined +++ hours of NS2 by le troales.
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  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    @Xao, yes the vote count should be higher, I've still only seen them once (was on the Aus UWE servers).
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  • sumo0sumo0 Join Date: 2012-10-30 Member: 164543Members
    200 hours played and i never saw this being abused. I mostly play on official 16p servers.

    Maybe im just lucky.
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  • DavilDavil Florida, USA Join Date: 2012-08-14 Member: 155602Members, Constellation
    328, never seen it once.
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  • deathst4rdeathst4r Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19365Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2057246:date=Jan 7 2013, 02:09 AM:name=Xao)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Xao @ Jan 7 2013, 02:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2057246"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->getting hit by never ending giant, long, hard ejections<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Who else read a similar e-Word at the end? :D


    To topic: Yes, eject-comm-abuse kinda sucks, but happens very very rarely. I remember two events. Changed server - problem solved. ;)
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  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--quoteo(post=2057264:date=Jan 7 2013, 07:57 PM:name=deathst4r)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (deathst4r @ Jan 7 2013, 07:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2057264"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Who else read a similar e-Word at the end? :D<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Psst, that's the joke.
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  • Dr4wDr4w Join Date: 2013-01-07 Member: 177962Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2057246:date=Jan 7 2013, 12:09 AM:name=Xao)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Xao @ Jan 7 2013, 12:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2057246"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->2 votes in 10 player teams is beyond stupid, should have been hotfixed weeks ago and has ruined +++ hours of NS2 by le troales.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Ofc there is some trolles in the internet :)
    But as i duo a lot, there is a ###### load of times where the commander is so bad that the only way to get upgrades and buildings is to eject the commander and let one of us commanding. I like the way it works by now.
    Im not a very big NS2 player (~100h) but i have never seen eject abuse.
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  • d0ped0gd0ped0g Join Date: 2003-05-25 Member: 16679Members
    I'd love to know the reasoning behind the 2 vote eject...

    Why not majority vote? Because ###### you! That's why!
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  • LamboLambo Iceland Join Date: 2012-08-07 Member: 154915Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow
    Witnessed it from both people who think it's funny to repeatedly eject the comm and from a couple of friends playing together on a server. The small group of friends eject the comm so one of them can comm and do whatever he/she wants.
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  • _Necro__Necro_ Join Date: 2011-02-15 Member: 81895Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    > 400h

    I have never seen this happen. There were only righteous ejects.
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  • MakenshiMakenshi Join Date: 2012-10-30 Member: 164681Members
    edited January 2013
    Seen this happen twice. Once the clowns repeatedly went marines and recycled ip till the server cleared out. Whenever someone else got to comm before they did, they'd vote eject the comm. The other time a comm got pissed because spectators were critiquing and giving him advice on his comm play, and for some reason he decided to troll the server.
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  • XaoXao Join Date: 2012-12-12 Member: 174840Members
    This isn't the same ballpark as ejecting the comm because he's ###### at comming, It isn't even the same league hell it's not even the same ######ing ballgame. This thread is about idiots in groups of 2 vote ejecting and swapping teams over and over again or sticking to one side and constantly ejecting, forcing a server to shutdown since in 300 hours of NS2 I've seen 2 admins in server, community policing doing an out ######ing standing amount of work as per usual.

    I've also never witnessed famine in 20 something years of living, it must not exist in afreca or south corea right, I mean I haven't seen it, isn't this worth noting.
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  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2057144:date=Jan 6 2013, 08:53 PM:name=Ghosthree3)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ghosthree3 @ Jan 6 2013, 08:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2057144"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How much have you REALLY seen this abused though, I mean in theory sure, it can be abused, but I've only had 1 set of people actively abuse it and eject anyone but themselves out of comm in over 300 hours of play.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Let's not wait for the Legion of Trolls on the internet to realize how easy it is to ruin games. This needs some attention.
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  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--quoteo(post=2057407:date=Jan 8 2013, 02:13 AM:name=MMZ_Torak)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MMZ_Torak @ Jan 8 2013, 02:13 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2057407"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Let's not wait for the Legion of Trolls on the internet to realize how easy it is to ruin games. This needs some attention.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    But people are good, and helpful, on the internet right?
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    The same system in this game is used from what I understand that is in the first and this was a rare problem. There's just not enough troll effect to make it worthwhile to abuse. I wish it showed who was voting and what for, but the low vount count is okay with me, because then you get troll commanders trying to ruin the game, and since nobody knows how to vote to eject to begin with, you'll never get the required votes to kick. It's a catch 22, but I like the system as is, except for the lack of UI information.
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  • xorexxorex Join Date: 2012-03-10 Member: 148550Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow
    I haven't run into this in a long time but thanks to this thread it has happened 3 time today on the UWE servers for me :P
    It's astonishing that there is nothing stopping two idiots from joining an official UWE server, and vote ejecting anyone who gets in the chair until they get in themselves to recycle ips. All of the new rookies had no idea what was going on and I had to explain to them they should probably avoid any official server until this is fixed.
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  • MiniH0wieMiniH0wie Join Date: 2007-11-25 Member: 63013Members
    <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=125808&hl=" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...=125808&hl=</a>

    <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=125853&hl=" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...=125853&hl=</a>
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  • butterbutter Join Date: 2013-01-04 Member: 177368Members
    The votecount needs to be higher. I've seen this happen too much as well. Maybe not the majority but at least 3 votes.
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