Does overclocking help fps?
Solarity
Join Date: 2012-11-13 Member: 170515Members, Reinforced - Shadow
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I hear that this game is very cpu entensive. I am running a 3750k, 660ti, and 8gb of ram. I am running stock cooler. I am getting ~80fps on avg guess. I have seen peeks at 200 and lows of 60s. If I upgrade my cooler and OC which I really havent done before will it improve game preformance. Right now I have vsync turned off.
Also is there an app that can collect data on cpu usage and fps while in game? I found one for recording min cpu temp and I am getting 62*c while playing and low 20s*c for idel.
Also is there an app that can collect data on cpu usage and fps while in game? I found one for recording min cpu temp and I am getting 62*c while playing and low 20s*c for idel.
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Also is there an app that can collect data on cpu usage and fps while in game? I found one for recording min cpu temp and I am getting 62*c while playing and low 20s*c for idel.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, overclocking is likely to improve performance in the vast majority of cases, unless you have a totally awful graphics card (which you haven't!).
I got a very decent boost from my stock i7 860 at 2.80GHz when I ramped it up to 3.5Ghz (no voltage change required, and as I have a megahalems on there, there's no worries with temps!).
The game is now very playable for me, though I turn down many of the graphics settings to ensure a mostly smooth late game (it's not flawless but it's pretty good). I run at 1920 x 1200, and have an AMD HD 5870, which all runs at stock.
i got an amd phenom 2 x6 currently at 3.4 ghz [can go up to 4 ghz without problems] with the be quiet dark rock advanced [around 23°C while playing and 32°C under heavy load ^^]. overclocking is very easy today (especially when you have a board which is build for OC)
It also always reduces a device expected life time and increases temperature.
Make sure you know how to OC and have good cooling before you touch anything.
Also is there an app that can collect data on cpu usage and fps while in game? I found one for recording min cpu temp and I am getting 62*c while playing and low 20s*c for idel.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have the EXACT same set up aside from the cooler. I have a asus mobo that is built for overclocking so it came with a neat auto tune program that did it for me. The auto tune bumped it up to 4.2 ghz and got about a 10 fps increase running around. I am running on max setting except vysnc. I have some other stuff that blocks vision (like atmospherics) but I see no difference in fps when i change those to make the game look "pretty". I get very similar fps as you except I can regularly see 100+ fps running around.
Our temps are way different though. I have a aftermarket water cooler and the cpu runs at 34c gaming overclocked. Mobo runs at 28c i believe it was. Idle was 23c and 21c respectively. I most likely will try to overclock it more using the program tonight to see what it does. The Motherboard built in auto tune feature has an 'extreme" overclock setting I didn't try yet.
Our temps are way different though. I have a aftermarket water cooler and the cpu runs at 34c gaming overclocked. Mobo runs at 28c i believe it was. I most likely will try to overclock it more using the program tonight to see what it does. The Motherboard built in auto tune feature has an 'extreme" overclock setting I didn't try yet.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What cooler are you using? Right now I am looking at the ets-t40 hsf. I am also looking at the thermaltake 2.0 preformer as a water cooled alternative. Been looking at lots of reviews and bench marks. There is a lot of hype in that area. Also some benchmarks have varying results.
Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan. + 2 case fans.
I have fraps but I don't know how to use the fps chart yet. Ill see if I can figure that out tonight and post one up to get real data. If possible Ill do one with it at 4.2 ghz and w/e the extreme overclocked setting does if you want.
Also note this pc is only a few days old so im sure that aids in performance.
same cpu i have, its rated 3.4 ghz but runs at 3.8 ghz (turbo mode i guess) whilst playing ns2. You will definetly see an increase in fps if you overclock
if your going for watercooling, 4.7 ghz is a good target to aim for. If you have a good chip on your hands then even 4.9 ghz is quite possible
I'm using a thermaltake 2.0 extreme with a 2600k to get 4.7GHz @1.4v with good results.
I'm getting roughly mid 60s-low 70sC under load (double P95):
<a href="http://imgur.com/mwDisqv" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/mwDisqvl.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
And the high 30s idle:
<a href="http://imgur.com/WKAyTZG" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/WKAyTZGl.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
I'm getting roughly mid 60s-low 70sC under load (double P95):
<a href="http://imgur.com/mwDisqv" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/mwDisqvl.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
And the high 30s idle:
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What version of the 2.0? The preformer, pro, and etc?
Its the <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106190" target="_blank">Thermaltake 2.0 extreme</a>.
No room to mount the extreme I was looking at the Performer though the Pro looks like it is much better for the $20.
<!--quoteo(post=2065627:date=Jan 23 2013, 03:01 PM:name=Squishpoke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Squishpoke @ Jan 23 2013, 03:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2065627"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If your min is 60fps and you want more, I'm guessing you are running a 120hz monitor?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now this is something I need to look at, I might be getting a little a head of myself. My Asus monitor 2ms 23" monitor is set at 60hz.
-Solarity
<a href="http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6603" target="_blank">http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6603</a>
As someone who knew little about overclocking and had never put an aftermarket fan on, it took an afternoon to get it done. Under full extended load, like running a cpu test load program, my cpu will sit 75-80 C depending on the core. In normal gameplay in things like coop BL2 (hosting) or NS2, my cpu easily stays under 70 C. I have relatively weak air flow in my case.
Overclocking will definitely improve your performance. And it is very easy with any K series intel. Just watch a youtube video or two and you're good to go.
I always look at the voltages people use on the sandy bridge and think it's an ivy. Minor panic attacks.
Yeah, if you are getting 60fps minimum, OC'ing would be pointless on a 60hz monitor. That's like pouring twice as much water into the same size funnel.
OC'ing is only really needed if you want to stabilize your minimum fps, preferrably to what your monitor is capable of.
I hear ya. I used to be super paranoid about voltage levels, but I've become bolder the more I overclock.
(However, with that kooky defense mechanism statement aside, I would *highly* reccomend not oc'ing your 'north' bus speed, RAM, 'south' (mobos sometimes don't even have one nowadays) bridge, pci-e etc all wait on this fequency, I'd seriously doubt running 1333 Mhz RAM at 1600Mhz would be a good thing for said RAM)
At first i couldt even get in the game, now it runs like a charm.
Also is there an app that can collect data on cpu usage and fps while in game? I found one for recording min cpu temp and I am getting 62*c while playing and low 20s*c for idel.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3770k on 5ghz with gtx 660 ti
200fps early game, 150 infight
100-150 late game 60-80 infight
/edit/ direct die (delid) mount, coolaboratory liquid pro, getting around 65-72 at 1.42
changing to delid enabled me to go from 4.5 to 5 ghz and direct die mount with liquid pro
dropped my templock at 105 to 65C° and i could lower the vcore from 1.42 to 1.32
but then i pumped up my ram from 4gig 1600mhz to 32gig 2400mh and now
the integrated memory controller is sucking volatage like hell and i need 1.42 again :)
but rockstable and cool. i think i could go further, like 5.2 or even a little bit more, as
max vcore is around 1.5X regarding to intel oc specs and ~70C° under heavy load for
over 24h got still potential :)
but dont need it :)
btw, i turned everything in ns2 off and playing at 1024x768
200fps early game, 150 infight
100-150 late game 60-80 infight
/edit/ direct die (delid) mount, coolaboratory liquid pro, getting around 65-72 at 1.42
changing to delid enabled me to go from 4.5 to 5 ghz and direct die mount with liquid pro
dropped my templock at 105 to 65C° and i could lower the vcore from 1.42 to 1.32
but then i pumped up my ram from 4gig 1600mhz to 32gig 2400mh and now
the integrated memory controller is sucking volatage like hell and i need 1.42 again :)
but rockstable and cool. i think i could go further, like 5.2 or even a little bit more, as
max vcore is around 1.5X regarding to intel oc specs and ~70C° under heavy load for
over 24h got still potential :)
but dont need it :)
btw, i turned everything in ns2 off and playing at 1024x768<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I hope your using some form of liquid cooling, as >1.4v on Ivy is starting to get into the danger zone without heavy cooling.
Basically conclusion. Most sites are full of crap and should not be trusted. There are so many variables that most sites I saw couldn't reliably allow you to compare apples to apples for cpu coolers. When I would go to a different site I would see stats for different coolers flip flopped. So HSF A was 5c cooler than HSF B, though go to a different site you see HSF B was 7c cooler than HSF A. Since I don't have companies waiting in line for me to test their HSF I will go by a few thoughts when it comes to selecting a HSF.
Copper is a great conductor of heat. So Copper heat pipes with aluminum fins. Next you calculate the size of a fin, then times that by the amount of fins. This will give you the surface area of the heat sink. Then times that fan flow rate. Then you get your score. I through this together. This can also only be used to compare similar styles of HSF.
Lastly you need to make sure your CPU has good bond between the HSF and CPU. I have yet to look into different thermal greases, though I am curious if they really make a difference.
In conclusion bigger the heat sink the more effective it can dissipate heat and a bigger fan does help.
Right now I am looking at going with a $35 cooler (standard) or a $70 cooler (liquid).
ETS-T40 @ $35 <==most sense
ThermalTake Water 2.0 Performer @ ~$70 or spend about $25 more and get a few more degrees cooler w/ the Pro version (larger radiator). <==geek sense
-Solarity
The truth is that any halfway decent aftermarket cooler will get you into the 4-4.5GHz range with Sandy/Ivy Bridge processors. Its only if you want to get beyond that is when you need to get picky regarding coolers/thermal compound.
<a href="http://www.xs-pc.com/products/watercooling-kits/x2o-750-watercooling-kits/raystorm-750-r360-watercooling-kit/" target="_blank">http://www.xs-pc.com/products/watercooling...tercooling-kit/</a>
That'll do :)
The truth is that any halfway decent aftermarket cooler will get you into the 4-4.5GHz range with Sandy/Ivy Bridge processors. Its only if you want to get beyond that is when you need to get picky regarding coolers/thermal compound.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You are the second person who recommended this site, it seems a lot more scientific. Just didn't see anything about ambient temp.