Autoreload
Calego
Join Date: 2013-01-24 Member: 181848Members, NS2 Map Tester
Join Date: 2013-01-24 Member: 181848Members, NS2 Map Tester
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I'm not normally one to say 'L2P' - but I'm afraid in this case I do... Not because I think I'm wonderful, but actually because most players who've played ANY fps game before will know they need to keep reloaded - it's not really specific to NS2! There are plenty of NS2-related foibles to learn already, we should probably focus on making those more obvious to new players first!
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Personally I miss the mechanic of clips being thrown away when reloaded, eg. 30 bullets left, reload, you lose those 30 bullets. Means you have to really choose whether or not reloading is worth it (not for 2 bullets).
Automatic reloading only really gives you an advantage when you disable your weapon model, so the constant animations don't distract you. And I don't roll that way, I like seeing my weapon (and promotes fairness at the same time).
Tbh I can't remember it ever being in NS2, I was on and off during the beta. Do remember it from older games though, it added so much to gameplay.
I can understand in this game that maybe the bullets left in the clip add up somehow because it IS in "the future". But I don't understand how games like cod, you can throw away a half empty clip and magically get bullets back.
Having 3-4 almost empty, 5-10 bullet clips was so cool.
Which meant if you reloaded too often you only had clips that where missing bullets.
I like this mechanic in some games, but conversely I hated that those games did not also allow combining mags.
Especially Arma 2. It's oh-so-"realistic," except that you can't spend a minute or two to combine your mags behind a boulder or something. If you are gonna have persistent mags, don't go half way. Sheesh.
Anyway, as for NS2, this mechanic probably won't fit well. People already complain about not having enough bullets in a completely full mag, imagine how bad it would be if they have to worry about 12 bullets in one and 30 in the other. NS2 is too fast paced for persistent mags.
Whoops, looks like you were bit in the leg, better hobble back to base at 50% speed.
Some mechanics work for a game and some don't. If persistent clips were removed in Beta, I guess there was a reason.
Yep, that's what I'm talking about, I'm not saying it has a place in this game (which kinda makes it offtopic) just being nostalgic of how great it was.
Agree it doesn't have a place in this game, aliens == non realistic shooter. Doesn't need the mechanic, and it would probably gimp marines since the game isn't really based on frags, and the challenge of getting them.
This would ruin me. I have severe OCD when it comes to bullets in my clip. Anything that isn't a round 10, even 49, is getting instantly reloaded.
I do that as well, I instantly reload as soon as I've stopped firing, even if a skulk just ran around a corner and i have 43 bullets, I reload.
I'm just saying it adds more depth to gameplay.
I think throwing the clip away would be a bit extreme, but I really like games in which the clip is kept as is.
Like in DayZ when you have 10 zombies bearing down on you, and you reload only to find that the clip you just put in has 2 bullets in it. I think this would be particularly... exhilarating in NS2.
Yeah, if I said throw it away before, I meant you keep the clip with X bullets left. Good times.
Better in a more realistic shooter, less so in NS2.
Day of defeat did this, and it made perfect sense. When sneaking around behind enemy lines, I actually found myself holding onto magazines that had maybe 10 bullets left because I was trying to conserve ammo. I also actively sought out enemy guns and used them, it gave me sound camouflage (but the game still shows my name along with the icon of the gun I used to kill an enemy soldier).
For NS2, this kind of mechanism would fail horribly because it isn't meant to be as realistic as DOD was (and DOD wasn't highly realistic as far as WW2 shooters went).
Once the gun hits 0 bullets it should auto reload.
HEEY. we need to find some weird reason why half a mag becomes full, right?
Yeah I see what you mean, and agree, simply because no reason not to.
While I do sort of like this feature, ammo is already such a scarce commodity in this game UWE would have to give us more clips to make this truly viable. Also so many marines can't even hit an alien with 50 rounds in the clip, imagine half your team going into a firefight with 20-25 rounds instead. I personally feel reloading is one of the key differences that cause marine losses early game. Aliens just mash mouse1 (they will never run out of energy) while marines can only sustain damage for so long before they are totally vulnerable. This is of course talking about pubbers and not high level players.
I do that too very often... although I've faced clever skulks who, just upon retreating, would swiftly come back to attack me, as they expected me to reload into that small time frame; I'm forcing myself not to reload in such situations if i'm >=40 bullets
Why should it? The gun doesn't reload itself, it's the marine that initiates the action of reloading. Aside from being a crutch for lazy players, it takes control away from the player in the sense that it happens whether you like it or not.
Assuming that you CAN'T rifle butt during a reload, in some cases you actually want the choice to reload or not so that you can still use the rifle butt. I was sniping a celerity spur last night and my current magazine ran dry, but I still had 2 magazines remaining and 2 skulks jumping around trying to kill me. In desperation I used the rifle butt on the spur and it died. I could have pulled out the pistol, I guess, but eh..whatever works.
I will understand, if you are new though.
About the clip thing, I don't think it will work like many said before me. If the pacing of the game was slower and the emphasis of the game was to be as much authentic, then yes. It would just make life harder on the marines' side and the least thing anybody would want is to make it so.
Good point, I don't think it currently works in this fashion though.