Experiencing Keyboard and Mouse "Ghosting" recently
Lev Steel
Join Date: 2012-10-13 Member: 162274Members, Reinforced - Shadow
Join Date: 2012-10-13 Member: 162274Members, Reinforced - Shadow
Hey Folks!
Recently from time to time during a game i experience some of my input commands not beeing executed by NS2.
It feels very similar to the well known keyboard-ghosting, where when you press too many keys at a time, the commands are not all executed.
The only difference is, that my mouse also seem to be affected from time to time. Not all my turnings are always fully executed. So if i do a 180° turn, it only does maybe 120° for example.
These mailfunctions are rare, so when i try to reproduce it everything works just fine, all input commands are executed, even when i press 4-5 keys at once.
But... when it happens... as you can imagine... you all know murphy, right? (already lost a fade in a PCW because of this, since i "got stuck" in a cornor for about 0.5 sec) :-/
I did not experienced this before, just for about two weeks now. (when it happened first, i just thought, it was my own fault, took a while to really proove to myself that it was not just me)
Anybody experiencing similar problems recently or in the past?
Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4 (with Anti-Ghosting)
Mouse: Logitech G500 @ 1300 DPI (ingame sens 2), all Accelerations off, Raw Input on
All directly plugged into seperate USB2 Ports directly on the mainboard (only got 2 on the back, the rest is USB3)
No extra mouse/keyboard drivers or software running.
Recently from time to time during a game i experience some of my input commands not beeing executed by NS2.
It feels very similar to the well known keyboard-ghosting, where when you press too many keys at a time, the commands are not all executed.
The only difference is, that my mouse also seem to be affected from time to time. Not all my turnings are always fully executed. So if i do a 180° turn, it only does maybe 120° for example.
These mailfunctions are rare, so when i try to reproduce it everything works just fine, all input commands are executed, even when i press 4-5 keys at once.
But... when it happens... as you can imagine... you all know murphy, right? (already lost a fade in a PCW because of this, since i "got stuck" in a cornor for about 0.5 sec) :-/
I did not experienced this before, just for about two weeks now. (when it happened first, i just thought, it was my own fault, took a while to really proove to myself that it was not just me)
Anybody experiencing similar problems recently or in the past?
Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4 (with Anti-Ghosting)
Mouse: Logitech G500 @ 1300 DPI (ingame sens 2), all Accelerations off, Raw Input on
All directly plugged into seperate USB2 Ports directly on the mainboard (only got 2 on the back, the rest is USB3)
No extra mouse/keyboard drivers or software running.
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Also got my old Steelseries 6G Keyboard out again and have it connected via PS2 now.
Did not help so far :-/
Also, someone else in my clan just reported the same issue, so i finally think, it must be game-related somehow.
I propably try a full re-installation of my system in the next few days if it stays like that.
i guess its since the last patch cause inb4 i didnt had that problem.
As for your mouse, check if there's any cat hair in there... I'm serious, cat hair can really stuff things up.
For my Keyboard i can just repeat, that i already tried 2 Anti-Ghosting Keyboards (the 6G does not even have any limit) and it is connected via PS2 already...
Also please run techsupport.exe in your NS2 steam folder, and follow it's instructions.
I don't think, that I can blame my keayboard for this (http://www.logitech.com/de-de/product/wireless-illuminated-keyboard-k800) - it is only 1 year old... I donot have this problem in other games like warsow, where I would also see/feel it directly, if my input wouldn't work. Btw. I am cleaning my input devices minimum once a month...
Usually this issue occurs in mid to late game, mostly in combat situations, if it helps to find the reason behind it.(I know how this sounds...)
Also interesting to note: The error showed up after the latest patch. Before that, it was just "my fault" to loose fades
I did start techsupport, email just went out.
a quick rundown.
ps/2 connects with irq and receives no slowdowns or input problems whatsoever. In this regard it is your best choice.
usb mouse & keyboard require polling. Basicly this is a x amount of times per second the cpu asks the usb port for info. (or the usb port giving the info, but something along those lines. you can look it up yourself).
Main point is a higher polling rate = faster refresh but higher cpu cost.
USB 2.0 can also not update a high amount of keystrokes. To combat this some manufacturers make your keyboard apear as 2 keyboards to combat this a bit.
The amount of keystrokes prosessed a second is key rollover. NKRO is the best version for it and ps/2 usually runs on NKRO. Anything lower will make you lose keystrokes if you are fast enough.
So basicly reinstall keyboard drivers and hope.
If you got ps/2, use it.. Bigger chance it will work but your best off looking for a NKRO keyboard.
Not entirely entirely true about USB, I have an N-Key rollover keyboard that uses USB, most of the time though yea, you need to use PS2 to get it. Even though I have N-Key rollover, it probably still isn't "as good" as PS2 would be, in some way that I don't understand.
The number of times I've had a dog hair on the laser and the mouse goes spastic...
then your keyboard should technicly be installed twice as I already said.
ps/2 is always better in terms of speed because it has a interrupt. hardware interrupts interrupt whatever the cpu is doing to let itself go first.
usb does not interrupt the cpu to cut in line, but waits its turn (the polling rate).
Due to the hardware interrupts, ps/2 can also often respond with keyboard shortcuts when a system hangs & usb keyboards fail to react.
If not you are not running nkro and probably should check that.
hard for me to test as mine is ps/2. (but its old so im not sure if mine is nkro either hehe)
Never had this issue until recently and it's the only game that does it. So all the people saying USB is the issue...no. It's either the game or the mod NS2Stats.
I've yet to have any issues, if it's of any interest I'm using a mechanical keyboard in my ps/2 slot, and a usb mouse in a usb 2.0 slot in the rear panel. I don't have ns2stats installed as a mod
As for when it happens, I am unaware if it is only NSStats servers. I will keep an eye out.
NS2 is the only game with the issue. I also play TF2, Planetary Annihilation, CS:GO, Red Orchestra 2, Planetside 2, none of those games have the issue.
This obviously makes the game unplayable.