I understand what your saying. Its just... impossible for this video card to overheat. Especially if the max clock speed on the gpu is 810mhz while in game. I was getting the fps drop with hyperboost on, where the overclock hits 1303mhz, and the fans are forced at 100% through the card's onboard bios. No drivers or software from the PC can affect the fan speed during hyperboost.
Actually I'm starting to hate them... The problem has already returned. Seems I have to delete the cache file or restart my computer to get the game to run at a constant clock speed. And once I do, I can't alt tab out or the gpu drops to 500mhz again with the fps dropping to 60 and back up to 180 again nonstop.... Obviously the voltage drops as well... to 0.97 during all this instead of the 1.127v or w/e its at when the gpu is clocked at a constant 1100-1300mhz..... zzzz
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Well, very strange indeed.
As your game try to compile the shaders again and again try to writeprotect the cache folder temporary to avoid deleting the compiled shader files inside.
Im using the newest WHQL 327.23 drivers and I've tried 3 others with no change. When I come to the forum with an issue its usually a more technical issue than my cards over heating/drivers/in game settings.
I think it this issue is with nVidia and not with ns2. There have been plenty of reports of gtx 780's throttling in games between 600-800mhz and apparently nVidia and manufacturers are working on fix. I mean I seriously can't even get benchmarks to get this card to clock over 800....
I already have installed and tried nvidia-inspector as well, the settings when applied dont take, they just revert back to what they were =/
It's so funny... I have to delete C:\Users\BABO\AppData\Roaming\Natural Selection 2 Every time I want to play this game AND i can't alt tab out without the card going back to 600mhz with the fps bouncing from 60-180 nonstop... with on a 144hz monitor is driving me absolutely insane.... lol.......... imma go cry and but in for an RMA now
1) Disable precision/manual control panel taking over ns2.exe the application (let the game decide for itself) - also do not use v-sync.. you can't even hope to hit your framerates with v-sync on
2) Set your GPU from energy saver mode to use maximum performance, and then see if it goes up to your clock speeds
This is a weird issue, and I'm almost certain it's being caused by something you either did in control panel or with some 3rd party application
Yes I know what v-sync does or what it's supposed to do rather, but at least on my client it doesn't do anything. It should lock frame rate to 60 which I wouldn't mind in this game because 150fps is just more than I want, and it heats up my cards too much for no real reason.
Im using the newest WHQL 327.23 drivers and I've tried 3 others with no change. When I come to the forum with an issue its usually a more technical issue than my cards over heating/drivers/in game settings.
Give the beta drivers a shot just for S&G, also what OS are you using? Windows 8 can be a bit wonky with games at times. Other things you could try would be opening your processes window (ctrl+shift+esc) and setting the priority of NS2 at like above normal and make sure the affinity is set to run on all cores and UAC virtualization should be checked. Short of that I'm about completely out of ideas short of your system not reading your memory properly or it getting released too soon and then having to reload files that should be precached.
Yea the issue you describe does sound more like a driver issue - the game will not constantly keep recompiling shaders despite what the console messages might indicate, thats a bug with the choice of verbiage, not a bug with the shaders constantly re-compiling.
and if you noticed the GPU clockspeed would not go higher than 405MHz previously, that should no longer be a problem after installing the 331.40 beta driver.
Oh Nvidia, what are you doing with drivers lately? I can't without a doubt say AMD drivers are infallible, but the worst I've ever got with amd is the display driver has stopped responding and has now recovered after waking from sleep.
1) Disable precision/manual control panel taking over ns2.exe the application (let the game decide for itself) - also do not use v-sync.. you can't even hope to hit your framerates with v-sync on
2) Set your GPU from energy saver mode to use maximum performance, and then see if it goes up to your clock speeds
This is a weird issue, and I'm almost certain it's being caused by something you either did in control panel or with some 3rd party application
Yes I know what v-sync does or what it's supposed to do rather, but at least on my client it doesn't do anything. It should lock frame rate to 60 which I wouldn't mind in this game because 150fps is just more than I want, and it heats up my cards too much for no real reason.
Considering I have a 144hz monitor... vsync (if I had it on) would put my fps @ 144 anyway... so.... dunno what to say about that
Luckily the newest beta drivers have seemed to fix the issue, time will only tell. This card was running fine for weeks before the issues popped up... I may never update my drivers again ^_^
And another point on the possible heat issues... I flashed the bios on my card, set the voltage @ 1.325v and hit a 1390mhz overclock and the card STILL didnt go over 85c... Needless to say this things destroys anything I throw @ it... only Arma 3 can bring it to its knees... think I may put this bad boy on water after prices drop with R9 coming out
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Thanks for that info
@Ironsoul
I understand what your saying. Its just... impossible for this video card to overheat. Especially if the max clock speed on the gpu is 810mhz while in game. I was getting the fps drop with hyperboost on, where the overclock hits 1303mhz, and the fans are forced at 100% through the card's onboard bios. No drivers or software from the PC can affect the fan speed during hyperboost.
As your game try to compile the shaders again and again try to writeprotect the cache folder temporary to avoid deleting the compiled shader files inside.
Also try this:
Download nvidia-inspector from http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/nvidia_inspector_download.html
Choose the natural 2 profile
And force only 1 card into the sli section.
Also Powermanagement@max
Apply changes.
Are you using beta drivers?
Try another driver set maybe.
I think it this issue is with nVidia and not with ns2. There have been plenty of reports of gtx 780's throttling in games between 600-800mhz and apparently nVidia and manufacturers are working on fix. I mean I seriously can't even get benchmarks to get this card to clock over 800....
I already have installed and tried nvidia-inspector as well, the settings when applied dont take, they just revert back to what they were =/
It's so funny... I have to delete C:\Users\BABO\AppData\Roaming\Natural Selection 2 Every time I want to play this game AND i can't alt tab out without the card going back to 600mhz with the fps bouncing from 60-180 nonstop... with on a 144hz monitor is driving me absolutely insane.... lol.......... imma go cry and but in for an RMA now
Yes I know what v-sync does or what it's supposed to do rather, but at least on my client it doesn't do anything. It should lock frame rate to 60 which I wouldn't mind in this game because 150fps is just more than I want, and it heats up my cards too much for no real reason.
Give the beta drivers a shot just for S&G, also what OS are you using? Windows 8 can be a bit wonky with games at times. Other things you could try would be opening your processes window (ctrl+shift+esc) and setting the priority of NS2 at like above normal and make sure the affinity is set to run on all cores and UAC virtualization should be checked. Short of that I'm about completely out of ideas short of your system not reading your memory properly or it getting released too soon and then having to reload files that should be precached.
Oh Nvidia, what are you doing with drivers lately? I can't without a doubt say AMD drivers are infallible, but the worst I've ever got with amd is the display driver has stopped responding and has now recovered after waking from sleep.
Oh and this(Dying 5850):
Considering I have a 144hz monitor... vsync (if I had it on) would put my fps @ 144 anyway... so.... dunno what to say about that
Luckily the newest beta drivers have seemed to fix the issue, time will only tell. This card was running fine for weeks before the issues popped up... I may never update my drivers again ^_^
And another point on the possible heat issues... I flashed the bios on my card, set the voltage @ 1.325v and hit a 1390mhz overclock and the card STILL didnt go over 85c... Needless to say this things destroys anything I throw @ it... only Arma 3 can bring it to its knees... think I may put this bad boy on water after prices drop with R9 coming out