yes, they were nerfed, but you have to give it a while and test the changes. let's try it out for a while and create a thread later down the line if some nerfs are very problematic. they took notice of the strafe jumping thread eventually, i'm sure they'll listen if something major needs fixing.
in the meantime, enjoy the waterfall sound effects on the main menu. seriously though, you don't even need that nature sound effects volume 1 CD anymore. just launch ns2 main menu before you go to bed.
not even been updated that long... but those alien changes are good, cause if anyone can remember, there was crags at 1st med packs nanoshield umbra drifter so its good that the drifter has come in line with the other elements of the game.
You predicted the team with OP balance issues would get nerfed? Are you a qualified psychic?
the problem with UWE is that, they balance the game for comp, not pub. Yes I agree that mucous membrane is OP as f***, but 9/10 pub alien comms don't even use drifter to buff the team, and 10/10 pub alien comm don't know how to shift whips. Heck, just the other day ppl called me a hacker because as a marine comm, I always know where the aliens starting hive is.
You predicted the team with OP balance issues would get nerfed? Are you a qualified psychic?
the problem with UWE is that, they balance the game for comp, not pub. Yes I agree that mucous membrane is OP as f***, but 9/10 pub alien comms don't even use drifter to buff the team, and 10/10 pub alien comm don't know how to shift whips. Heck, just the other day ppl called me a hacker because as a marine comm, I always know where the aliens starting hive is.
Yes, it's infuriating when we sit outside a marine base because alien com doesn't know how to com late game.
You predicted the team with OP balance issues would get nerfed? Are you a qualified psychic?
the problem with UWE is that, they balance the game for comp, not pub. Yes I agree that mucous membrane is OP as f***, but 9/10 pub alien comms don't even use drifter to buff the team, and 10/10 pub alien comm don't know how to shift whips. Heck, just the other day ppl called me a hacker because as a marine comm, I always know where the aliens starting hive is.
So you're saying it's a problem for pubs when overpowered elements used only in competitive games are balanced?
the problem with UWE is that, they balance the game for comp, not pub. Yes I agree that mucous membrane is OP as f***, but 9/10 pub alien comms don't even use drifter to buff the team, and 10/10 pub alien comm don't know how to shift whips...
you say - UWE is a problem, because:
- mucous membrane is OP as f***
- they balance the game for competitive matches
- in pub matches only 1/10 alien coms use a drifter to buff the team
conclusion:
- competitive play gets the changes -> more balanced
- pub play -> almost nobody is using the changes -> same balance
alien will get nerfed AGAIN in the next patch. Oh look, it happened as I predicted.
if you play competitive: it should be more balanced now
if you play public: its the same balance (because almost nobody is using the gameplay mechanics as you say)
You predicted the team with OP balance issues would get nerfed? Are you a qualified psychic?
the problem with UWE is that, they balance the game for comp, not pub. Yes I agree that mucous membrane is OP as f***, but 9/10 pub alien comms don't even use drifter to buff the team, and 10/10 pub alien comm don't know how to shift whips. Heck, just the other day ppl called me a hacker because as a marine comm, I always know where the aliens starting hive is.
So to a pub commander, the balance hasn't changed at all. What's the problem?
You predicted the team with OP balance issues would get nerfed? Are you a qualified psychic?
the problem with UWE is that, they balance the game for comp, not pub. Yes I agree that mucous membrane is OP as f***, but 9/10 pub alien comms don't even use drifter to buff the team, and 10/10 pub alien comm don't know how to shift whips. Heck, just the other day ppl called me a hacker because as a marine comm, I always know where the aliens starting hive is.
You ALLWAYS balance around the best players. Where do you think StarCraft would be if they balanced the game around Bronze players?
As someone who had really taken a liking to spamming mucous and maneuvering early whips to shut down marines in pubs the list of nerfs that alien comm just got hit with is kind of depressing to look at. Not sure if they were all necessary but having seen what happens in NSL matches and even in pub games when the alien team has a semblance of team work AND drifter/whip support from their comm obviously something had to change.
While I agree this really wont affect most public games I am very interested to see how this changes the dynamics of the competitive games especially since it is so close to the season 3 finals.
Can't say I will be nearly as eager to hop in the hive now as I worry that just being a bored building dropper/upgrade getter will become the most viable strategy until late game. Well at least viable enough to not get me yelled at by idiots for not getting fade upgrades at 9 minutes. Alien comm really needs some good ways to support their team that don't involve incredible amounts of PvE or be unchained from the hive so they can support the field.
It was hilarious watching pub skulks nom down 3 marines and then say "wow how did I do that?" after getting spammed with mucous 3-4 times and not even noticing (a "thanks comm" now and then would be nice!). Really crazy just how many people literally do not even know about such a powerful ability.
the problem with UWE is that, they balance the game for comp, not pub. Yes I agree that mucous membrane is OP as f***, but 9/10 pub alien comms don't even use drifter to buff the team [...]
So basicaly you are telling us that mucous membrane nerf only affects competitive play, not pub. So what the hell is your problem with the nerf ????
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in the meantime, enjoy the waterfall sound effects on the main menu. seriously though, you don't even need that nature sound effects volume 1 CD anymore. just launch ns2 main menu before you go to bed.
the problem with UWE is that, they balance the game for comp, not pub. Yes I agree that mucous membrane is OP as f***, but 9/10 pub alien comms don't even use drifter to buff the team, and 10/10 pub alien comm don't know how to shift whips. Heck, just the other day ppl called me a hacker because as a marine comm, I always know where the aliens starting hive is.
Yes, it's infuriating when we sit outside a marine base because alien com doesn't know how to com late game.
So you're saying it's a problem for pubs when overpowered elements used only in competitive games are balanced?
Can you see what's wrong with that sentence?
PANIC!
Please close.
- mucous membrane is OP as f***
- they balance the game for competitive matches
- in pub matches only 1/10 alien coms use a drifter to buff the team
conclusion:
- competitive play gets the changes -> more balanced
- pub play -> almost nobody is using the changes -> same balance
if you play competitive: it should be more balanced now
if you play public: its the same balance (because almost nobody is using the gameplay mechanics as you say)
where is the problem ?
So to a pub commander, the balance hasn't changed at all. What's the problem?
You ALLWAYS balance around the best players. Where do you think StarCraft would be if they balanced the game around Bronze players?
While I agree this really wont affect most public games I am very interested to see how this changes the dynamics of the competitive games especially since it is so close to the season 3 finals.
Can't say I will be nearly as eager to hop in the hive now as I worry that just being a bored building dropper/upgrade getter will become the most viable strategy until late game. Well at least viable enough to not get me yelled at by idiots for not getting fade upgrades at 9 minutes. Alien comm really needs some good ways to support their team that don't involve incredible amounts of PvE or be unchained from the hive so they can support the field.
It was hilarious watching pub skulks nom down 3 marines and then say "wow how did I do that?" after getting spammed with mucous 3-4 times and not even noticing (a "thanks comm" now and then would be nice!). Really crazy just how many people literally do not even know about such a powerful ability.
@amb When you wish to have an actual discussion with arguments, feel free to start one.
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