Using the clipboard to export/import spark data?

BeigeAlert

I'd like to look into using the clipboard to import and export spark data, as a way of doing the level modeling in a different program, one with better tools.

I (finally!) found a program that will let me look at the raw clipboard data (InsideClipboard) and I can't make heads or tails of the data (

I would love some information about the format of how data is stored in the clipboard. Does anybody have any insight on this?

SamusDroid

Save as vmf. Import into Spark.

BeigeAlert

SamusDroid wrote: »

Save as vmf. Import into Spark.

Does that just add to the level, or does it replace the whole level with whatever was in the VMF file?

EDIT: Actually I guess that wouldn't matter. If it did, just copy + paste it from a 2nd editor instance into your level. Thanks!

Joseppe

BeigeAlert wrote: »

I would love some information about the format of how data is stored in the clipboard. Does anybody have any insight on this?

should be same as the ".level"-file.
Official Map Format Documentation

to maybe get an understanding you could check out the source of the "radiance" mod how "onos ate me" did the parsing / finding / accessing (some entities like lights, ...) in the ".level" file:
Radiance 3 Source

BeigeAlert

Joseppe wrote: »

BeigeAlert wrote: »

I would love some information about the format of how data is stored in the clipboard. Does anybody have any insight on this?

should be same as the ".level"-file.
Official Map Format Documentation

to maybe get an understanding you could check out the source of the "radiance" mod how "onos ate me" did the parsing:
Radiance 3 Source

Unfortunately I don't think that's the case First 3 bytes aren't LVL so that's already proven false. I may just go with Samus Droid's suggestion. Bit of a pain in the butt though... first you'd have to export as obj, model it, export as 3ds or w/e, import into hammer, save THAT as vmf, THEN open THAT in spark editor. Why must life be so hard!!!???

Joseppe

its almost the same!

i did test it.
a) create a "level" + put 1 light into it + save it as ".level" file
b) create a "level" + put 1 light into it + copy it into clipboard

the light has the same "source code", but the level file has some more information like layers and so on... and of course the first 3 bytes LVL to indicate the format for the level file.
but the geometry + lights without layers, groups (you cant copy them into clipboard) should be the same.

BeigeAlert

Joseppe wrote: »

its almost the same!

i did test it.
a) create a "level" + put 1 light into it + save it as ".level" file
b) create a "level" + put 1 light into it + copy it into clipboard

the light has the same "source code", but the level file has some more information like layers and so on... and of course the first 3 bytes LVL to indicate the format for the level file.
but the geometry + lights without layers, groups (you cant copy them into clipboard) should be the same.

Hmm... well then I've got some work to do then!