For those of you helping noobs... look at the steam forums!

draktokdraktok Join Date: 2013-02-18 Member: 183156Members
in NS2 General Discussion
There is a ton of people who are posting questions or looking for advice, and there doesn't seem to be many vets on there answering any questions besides me and a select few. I know there is a good handful of you nerds who check this forum every day, why not slip on over to the steam forums and make sure there isn't any outstanding questions that aren't being answered huh? Proper grammar goes a long way too, we don't want to come off as the cod generation to newer players :)

http://steamcommunity.com/app/4920/discussions/0/648813728004018387/
Here's a good thread for it too, as questions arise.
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  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    Redirect any tech support issues to our actual tech support forums, here, however... as its got years worth of issues already documented for searching.
    Be sure to point them to this
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  • HeatSurgeHeatSurge Some Guy Join Date: 2012-09-15 Member: 159438Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    edited December 2013
    If someone wants to truly help nåbs, I would spend some substantial time going through the wiki and making sure it's up to date. IMO that's the first place most semi-serious people will go for an answer to a question, especially related to numbers. I think I spent upwards of 1-2 hours going through the wiki when I first started playing, and I feel like it was by far the most helpful resource for learning 101 things (ha yu lan dis tang), tech trees with cost/timing relationships, and weaknesses/strengths, other than playing the game itself.
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  • draktokdraktok Join Date: 2013-02-18 Member: 183156Members
    How out of date is the wiki now...?
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  • SamusDroidSamusDroid Colorado Join Date: 2013-05-13 Member: 185219Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Playtester, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    edited December 2013
    Well ....
    http://forums.unknownworlds.com/discussion/133325/the-wiki-has-been-updated#latest
    the wiki is not the problem, it's the people who can't start the game 99% of the time caused by missing files. Something that is common with individual lua files.
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  • CrushaKCrushaK Join Date: 2012-11-05 Member: 167195Members, NS2 Playtester
    Steam Forums are toxic. They always have been.
    There is a general hostile attitude around there because the entry requirements are so low (people got a Steam account anyway, whereas here you usually care enough about the game to make an account). I understand why the good guys avoid them.
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  • lwflwf Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58311Members, Constellation
    CrushaK wrote: »
    Steam Forums are toxic. They always have been.
    There is a general hostile attitude around there because the entry requirements are so low (people got a Steam account anyway, whereas here you usually care enough about the game to make an account). I understand why the good guys avoid them.

    Only this isn't the Steam Users forums, this is the Steam Community forums... and somehow the level over there seem to manage to be even lower.
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  • ezekelezekel Join Date: 2012-11-29 Member: 173589Members, NS2 Map Tester
    SPUF (steam user forums) somehow have intelligent people, and steam discussions somehow have idiots

    And I honestly think it's the whole no registration/confirm e-mail required, I think that weeds out most of them

    Heck add in a grammar trivia question and we'll have the smartest forum yet!

    They're there their!
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  • OtsOts Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18577Members, Constellation
    There's also a ton of negative posts that newcomers see at first, that were up there on ns2 'frontpage' on steam. Before all these sales came out, i tried to make more positive posts there but quite simply, the UI is just so godawful that i rarely use it for anything else but random workshop searches. :(
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    We don't go to Ravenholm!
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  • LokiLoki Join Date: 2012-07-07 Member: 153973Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    well I have been helping them with some stuff but staying away from the troll threads or when the thread that I have been responding in becomes a nuclear waste land
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  • ezekelezekel Join Date: 2012-11-29 Member: 173589Members, NS2 Map Tester
    Loki wrote: »
    well I have been helping them with some stuff but staying away from the troll threads or when the thread that I have been responding in becomes a nuclear waste land

    People are making other people believe the game is using the unreal engine
    X_X
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  • cooliticcoolitic Right behind you Join Date: 2013-04-02 Member: 184609Members
    Erm no need to call ppl noobs or nerds. Also, we will go help others on steam forums if we feel like it.

    And, this is the official forums.
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  • draktokdraktok Join Date: 2013-02-18 Member: 183156Members
    Coolitic a noob is a new player. You might take it as derogatory, that's your own problems - don't be upset with me. Thanks for the other info, that I pretty clearly knew since I'm posting on the official forums, anything else obvious you feel the need to point out?
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  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    @draktok, no @coolitic is right.
    a NEWBIE is a new friendly willing to learn new player.
    a NOOB is a unfriendly unwilling to learn new player.
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  • ezekelezekel Join Date: 2012-11-29 Member: 173589Members, NS2 Map Tester
    edited December 2013
    draktok wrote: »
    Coolitic a noob is a new player. You might take it as derogatory, that's your own problems - don't be upset with me. Thanks for the other info, that I pretty clearly knew since I'm posting on the official forums, anything else obvious you feel the need to point out?

    Newb is someone who is new to a game

    Noob is someone who isn't new but is still bad at the game
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  • SpaSpa Join Date: 2013-05-20 Member: 185301Members
    really arguing newb v noob?
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  • OtsOts Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18577Members, Constellation
    Well, it's good to be informed?
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  • MoFoMoFo Join Date: 2013-09-09 Member: 188047Members
    I would answer questions in the steam forum.... if there actually was a NS2 sub-forum. Unfortunately Steam all but refuses to add one.

    The Steam "discussions" area is not a proper forum. It is an unsecure toxic wasteland of facebook/twitter like posters that is linked directly to your game account. With hundreds of games on my account there's no chance I'll ever take the risk of posting there.

    I'm sure that I am not alone in my refusal to post in discussions, which is likely why there aren't too many people offering help. If you really want the new players to get help, I'd suggest making a post to direct them to this forum.
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  • draktokdraktok Join Date: 2013-02-18 Member: 183156Members
    edited December 2013
    That's just arguing semantics, my friends and I have always used newb and noob together...
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  • Cannon_FodderAUSCannon_FodderAUS Brisbane, AU Join Date: 2013-06-23 Member: 185664Members, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Reinforced - Shadow
    I am on pubs alot atm, and its always hard to describe new players without sounding condescending, so I just use the term 'green'. I would say in All chat at the start, how many greens. This for me sets the tone of the match. It sort of helps to set your expectations about the game. More green stack my team = probably no win, so I relax and try to coach them in the game instead. I do check the Steam forums, and think it needs another sticky (aside from the Tech help), a where to learn to play sticky would be nice.
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  • RapGodRapGod Not entirely sure... Join Date: 2013-11-12 Member: 189322Members
    just tell them to use teamwork, done!
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  • cooliticcoolitic Right behind you Join Date: 2013-04-02 Member: 184609Members
    RapGod wrote: »
    just tell them to use teamwork, done!

    If only that worked...
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