All The World To Play For - Natural Selection 2
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All The World To Play For - Natural Selection 2
If playing a game could get you an international plane ticket, how hard would you play? This weekend, the best teams in Natural Selection 2 battle it out for a spot at the NS2 World Championship Live Finals Series in Cologne, Germany. In the image above, you can see the four matches. The eight teams are: Legendary Snails retiring Godar Ascension Titus Gaming Radical Saunamen iMagine Tune in at the times noted on each of the four Twitch channels to find out who wins the plane tickets. On Saturday 22 February, all four of those winning teams will battle it out live in Germany to see who is the greatest team in the world. This is truly a global …
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Well, given that the past two weeks have comprised the holidays, not sure what you were expecting. Anyways, cheers to all competing! Gl, hf, all that.
It's not "another tournament". It's the continuation of the World Championships.
#asctogermany #jektnco #teamaus Well Snails aren't playing in the Ausns2.org s2. well not unless they move here.
Even Molten International Tournament (no. 6) has more reception, price money and better commentary than this little global wanna-be tournament... Note that Molten is completly private.
The community members we have are doing their best. However, I would LOVE to watch you cast a game. Pick one up and leave the time,date, and URL. I'll give you feedback as well.
Do you know what, Most of the top NS2 players and commentators are not English native speakers so get your head out of your rascist/nationalist/person phobic view point. Most of the world is not and does not speak English. It's idiots like you that make me wish I was not a Native English speaker, Xenophobia...
Lol. Being annoyed at a caster who is trying to speak English and not doing it very well is not racist or anything else. It means you're annoyed. I know in 2014 the media likes to race bait everything and make the masses hyper politically correct, but Jesus Christ.
You're overreacting and he's got a point. This isn't about political correctness.
I like the commentator being judgmental. I don't care for "x is doing y" etc that I can see on the screen for myself - I want to see a debate provoked. I want the commentator to argue a point, whether he is right or wrong (although a decent degree of knowledge and intelligence is required).
I think you have a point about the English, perhaps, in that if you're going to commentate on something in a particular language you should be perfectly intelligible - which, to be honest, I thought Blind was.
Honestly you fooled me when you said you're a "Native" (why the capital...?) speaker. I certainly think that the overall point regarding requiring someone sufficiently proficient in English is a valid one, but in Blind's case I don't understand your gripe as there is not a word he says that I do not immediately understand. Perhaps his pronunciation of Alcalde as "acadee" an exception, actually, which if you consider out of all the possible words one could get wrong, isn't a bad ratio...
http://www.ns2wc.com/ isn't a better one?
GL&HF for teams going to live finals in Cologne!
Simply bashing the players for not taking a presumably optimal path rarely goes a long way. Meanwhile being able to find both the reasons and the results of a certain, possibly questionable decision or action makes the commentary far more insightful and interesting than just the average play by play.
Also casting isn't scripted: there's plenty to talk about during a match, the challenge is being accurate at a glance. Mistakes are inevitable, so again, if people want to criticize that aspect of my casting they are welcome to! The likelihood is that I will dismiss that negativity and just try to be as accurate as possible in future (a priority I already have, it does not bear reminding me)!
Blind, as this is the specific case you are referring to, was very on the ball, and in general a great caster. If you cant interpret his "accent", then mute the stream and do your own internal casting.
Also, I have no problem in general with criticizing casters; how else will they improve.
My point is that I don't want to hear critical commentary of the teams because unless you're really really knowledgeable of the pro level and experienced with casting in general, you shouldn't be doing it much if at all. A minor comment here and there is fine if you backup claims but this critical casting seemed to be the focus and was really irritating to listen to. In SC2, there are only a few casters that can pull this type of commentary off and the rest try to avoid it for good reason.
Just my thoughts but I really hate it when casters put down obviously fantastic players even if they do make mistakes.
Though I had forgotten that this whole tournament is just organized by some dude that wan't to be in the limelight. UWE merely fell into his trap. Hope exists they take casting over once in Germany. (Also the remaining matches) You know what, I'm not English native speaker. No reason to point your finger.
Well thats true, however I don't wan't to constantly hear how bad the loosing team is handling a situation and also telling how much better they would have done if they'd be gone after this and that objective. (Especially when he's talking about how much better "he" would have played). Ofc they would have won a fight if say 10s earlier in cross.
I like to hear about the decisions a team might have made and why and what their strategy and counter-strategy might have been in a situation and throughout a game. Also interesting to hear how to generally handle certain fights and how they vary from it to win.
As @Ren26 said it felt as if the commentator was forgetting the "semi-niscience" of the teams.
The ns2 commentators are not professionals and learn with every match they cast. Some criticism is certainly valid, but there is no need to become that agressive and talk about "traps" etc.
So keep up the great games and see you all in germany!
Anyway, the Sauna/iMagine games were great and I recommend anyone who did not get the chance to watch them live to watch the VOD. Sauna's strong marine play vs jaivol's excellent comming was a treat to see.
Here is the results of the quarterfinals:
*facepalm*
Edited to add picture.
Something like is really blunt and negative and doesn't have much interesting in it.
Meanwhile makes things interesting.
Also, I think good casters understand the players and why they make mistakes. Being able to explain why a certain kind of mistake or decision happens helps the viewers appreciate the skill of the players further whenever such things are avoided. Especially in a game like NS2 where it's sometimes hard to have a solid long term practise routine, it's very important to be able to recognize the challenges the teams face during a round rather than just comparing the ongoing game to some theoretical model of a well played round.
Gonna look the Sauna/iMagine games now.
Just as a side note, I've got quite a bit of respect towards the "blind guy" and I haven't seen the rounds in particular so I'm just throwing in very general thought about how I feel about casting competetive games in any esportish thing.
Also, I've got quite a lot of understanding for casters sometimes having trouble finding nice things to say. When I was writing content for ENSL in NS1 era, I sometimes ended up watching some rather repetetive patterns of teams losing to pretty simple mistakes again and again. It wasn't always easy to find anything remotely interesting or positive things to say about a round you've seen a dozen times before. Still, I think it's very important to keep trying to make most of the matches there are available even on the moments when they're not necessarily the very top notch quality.