Skins and FPS

_INTER__INTER_ Join Date: 2009-08-08 Member: 68392Members, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow
Could it be that the skins Reinforced and Kodiak drop FPS tremendously or am I just paranoid? I just been on a rookie server where everyone had normal skin. My FPS was better by 20...
Also I'm not able to play properly since Reinforced patch :(

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  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    how much memory you have & how much memory does your gpu have?
    It needs 'more' after reinforced due to skins
  • _INTER__INTER_ Join Date: 2009-08-08 Member: 68392Members, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2014
    8 GB RAM memory. The graphic card has 2 GB.
    Is there a way to force default skin (or replace the skins with default one) ?
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    That should be plenty. cant be the reason why.
    What does r_stats or profile say?
  • _INTER__INTER_ Join Date: 2009-08-08 Member: 68392Members, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow
    R_stats and profile. Graphic settings at the lowest, very low resolution, FPS is acceptable, but sometimes my FPS starts with like 20-30 in RR and stays
    low and even lower throughout the game and every following game and map. I can't find out why?!?
    http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3646/2hfck273_jpg.htm
    http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3646/xejamu5v_jpg.htm
    http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3646/z5x7wpls_jpg.htm
    http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3646/j3ozdnmc_jpg.htm
    http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3646/5qir3whi_jpg.htm
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    Well you are definitely bottlenecked by your videocard.
    Your techsupport.zip file would be useful
  • _INTER__INTER_ Join Date: 2009-08-08 Member: 68392Members, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2014
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    THIS, this is your problem:
    Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4400

    You have a i7, a crapload of memory, windows 7 64b.. but you use a integrated chip for graphics. Waste of good computer power.
    Get a dedicated GOOD video card.
  • _INTER__INTER_ Join Date: 2009-08-08 Member: 68392Members, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2014
    THIS, this is your problem:
    Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4400

    You have a i7, a crapload of memory, windows 7 64b.. but you use a integrated chip for graphics. Waste of good computer power.
    Get a dedicated GOOD video card.
    I have 2 graphics card: Nvidia Geforce GT 750M and the Intel HD Graphics 4400, that comes along with it. It's called Optimus by Nvidia.

    What graphic card to be used can be set in the Nvidia settings. Ofc NS2 is set to the Geforce card.



  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    Ensure the latest gpu drivers are installed because dxdiag isn't reporting any.

    NS2 is definitely using your 750.. And while it's the bottom of the mid range line, it should be plenty fine.
    Are you familiar with running a plog?
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    IC now.. I only checked the dxdiag log.
    But this is mighty odd!

    Windows should have better info in regards on your vidcard then ns2. I would definately check that out, regardless what ns2 says.
  • _INTER__INTER_ Join Date: 2009-08-08 Member: 68392Members, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2014
    Thanks for the answers. DxDiag never picks up the dedicated gpu, only the integrated one. https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/535865/dxdiag-problem-/
    NS2 is indeed running on the 750M, I checked with the Optimus tools.
    Are you familiar with running a plog?
    no, whats that?
    Ensure the latest gpu drivers are installed because dxdiag isn't reporting any.
    I just installed the newest 750M driver from the Nvidia page. This was not so easy as the driver didn't recognize any graphic card at all first. I had to manipulate the driver .inf file by
    adding my hardware id beneath the other 750M listed. Seems like Nvidia wants laptop users to use the old drivers from Acer / Dell / etc.
    I've played a couple of games just now and it seems to be working somewhat. It stayed at +-60 fps.
    I gotta check tonight when all the skin-wearers come online. I still beliefe that it causes my issues or some sort of bad initalization.
    Reporting back.
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    I didnt know about that dxdiag bug. cheers. :p

    As for 750m.. WUT? Its a 750, its not that old.
    It says the driver supports a GT 750M fine:
    http://www.nvidia.co.uk/download/driverResults.aspx/76022/en-uk
    Go install?
  • _INTER__INTER_ Join Date: 2009-08-08 Member: 68392Members, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow
    I was able to play yesterday night without any problem. I hope this issue doesn't reoccurre.

    @DC_Darkling Yes, I installed that one 337.88 driver with the manipulated .inf file. It didn't recognize my graphic card otherwise. That often happens with laptop graphic cards.
    You know, the hardware id of every compatible graphic card needs to be listed in the .inf file and Nvidia only keeps those updated that have been purchased directly from Nvidia. A lot of time manufacturers use customized drivers. They may not be the latest, but only ones that work, if you don't manipulate the id into it manually. You're on laptop manufacturer mercy for updated driver.
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    Yup I do infact know. :)
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    edited June 2014
    There's also some great sites out there that make proprietary mobile GPU drivers.. i've used them in the past with mixed success. But they always seem better than what a hardware /laptop distributor could provide lol.
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