Racist Clan

DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
<div class="IPBDescription">...</div> There is a racist clan on NS called GM or something, i dont know what it stands for but ive got a picture...

Try not to let them into your league since they are also abusive, ive seen them on another server to.
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  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    You got thier wonIDs! Sweet.

    /me adds them to ban list on EC server
  • philmcnealphilmcneal Join Date: 2002-10-24 Member: 1585Members
    um ok notice that they are using teamsay it can be a inside joke

    christ i use that word sometimes to personal friends as a inside joke ... man u guys are out of hand
  • TikiTorchBobTikiTorchBob Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8527Members
    Do you say things like all soandsoa race should be burnt at the stake after watching their children being tortured? I don't find that humorous.
  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    thanx for posting there Wonids
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    No problem, i hope there wonids can be coded into NS. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Ben128Ben128 Join Date: 2002-06-21 Member: 808Members, Constellation
    Wow, people are stupid. Makes me want to kick them in the face. Or just eat them...I wish I was a skulk...whauhaahahaha.
  • SlycasterSlycaster Limited Edition Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 24Members, NS1 Playtester
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    edited November 2002
    well done sbv, through what could've easily been a poorly photoshopped picture, you've made it so everyone will now hate a clan for the actions of one member.

    whats to say he ISNT black either?

    <span style='color:green'><b>***Spored.***</b> Keep your dirty laundry out of the forums.</span>
  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Please ban them from your servers, I'd also like someone to post their WON id's in the server forum. That's not funny at all.
  • humbabahumbaba That Exciting Tales From the Frontline Guy Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 86Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Theres a very large difference between insulting a clan and being racist, jobobob.

    And even if he is black, that is not an excuse to be racist. Its obviously not a joke because the language is ridiculously inflammatory.

    Thank you SBV.
  • EkajEkaj Creator of ns_mineshaft, co_core Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 95Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Map Tester
    I kinda agree with jobabob, what we see here is a racist player, not a racist clan. But I don't think it's photoshopped in this case ;o
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    It's the old rule of thumb - never trust a picture (although I also don't doubt this ones orginality) more than your own personal judgement.

    If GM gets on your server, keep an eye on them, and should they misbehave, post it here. Racism of that degree -be it in jest or not- is just nothing to be tolerated, no matter whether the 'n-word' can also be used jokingly.

    Also, for the clan != clanmember argumentation: Do you <i>really</i> think a bunch of decent guys would stay long in a clan that's got someone like this recon in it?
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    Who hasnt said the 'n' word once in their life

    Id never say it NOW, but whos to say that person isnt another poor teenager let onto the net. I only had basic net access when I was 13, now you see them parading round servers trying to mature 5 years early, its all sick and wrong imo. Keep kids off the net PERIOD. Keep them out of tight social situations produced by all the above nonsense over some team talk.

    As the clans are reletively new, what with the game only being a month old, it's doubtful whether the clan knows. If someone in mine said something racist, I would take it as a one-off, which is how I see this. If anyone in the clan was a continually abusive arsehole (im talking racism here, the worse kind in some cases), yes i'd kick him so fast he wouldn't see my foot (or +b <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
  • RuriRuri Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4709Members
    Sticks n stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

    Cmon it's the internet, haven't you guys all been desensitized to this yet? I mean it's commonplace now.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I may sound like an overly plotically correct hypocrit, but there are some things I just refuse to get used to.
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    Racism is supposed to be a big thing in the UK, horray for the duke of edinburgh and his wacky 'quotes taken out of context' <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    (for those who read Viz)
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    Yeah, good work SBV.

    You guys may think racism is commonplace, but I and many others refuse to tolerate it.
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    I dont think anyone tolerates it Insane. I thought we'd already made that clearm, ruri was the only acception.
  • relsanrelsan Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3720Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--philmcneal+Nov 25 2002, 02:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (philmcneal @ Nov 25 2002, 02:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->um ok notice that they are using teamsay it can be a inside joke

    christ i use that word sometimes to personal friends as a inside joke ... man u guys are out of hand<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    only ignorant people use that word and words like it in a joking manner or otherwise. being black or knowing black people doesn't justify using the word and its disrespectful to all races when its used.
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    edited November 2002
    <span style='color:green'><b>***Spored.***</b> Keep your dirty laundry out of the forums, especially since Jobabob is currently suspended.</span>
    The photoshopped since i dont even know where to start
  • Boiscour35Boiscour35 Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9250Members
    edited November 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jobabob+Nov 30 2002, 04:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jobabob @ Nov 30 2002, 04:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Who hasnt said the 'n' word once in their life<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I haven't, and I'm sure there are many others here who haven't also. Additionally, something like that has only become commonplace because ignorant people have allowed it to become so. It should not be.

    p.s. An aside here, but Evolutionarily Challenged people have awesome sigs... -_-"
  • azelitoazelito Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10695Members
    edited December 2002
    Ok, heres a post from someone who is actually in GM. I recently discovered this post and Im sorry if Im out to date but I just want to tell you this.
    Im known as -]GM^Azelito[- and im now gonna tell you that there is <b>NO</b> (!!!) racism/racists whatsoever in our clan. Ive known RecoN for a very long time and this is purely a joke.
    Believe me when I say this, if we discovered anything like this the person in question would be kicked as soon as we found out..
    In this case I would probably (as you do) think that this was for real but since I know him so well I can tell you, its not.
    I, on behalf of all GM, am sorry for this inconvenience and it will never happen again. Sorry. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    edited December 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--TikiTorchBob+Nov 25 2002, 08:12 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TikiTorchBob @ Nov 25 2002, 08:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Do you say things like all soandsoa race should be burnt at the stake after watching their children being tortured? I don't find that humorous.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ive known RecoN for a very long time and this is purely a joke.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    So you would call that a joke? Sick clan.
  • azelitoazelito Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10695Members
    Its sarcasm!!! Jesus christ!
  • GMRecoNGMRecoN Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10710Members
    edited December 2002
    hmm...

    OK here goes...

    Firstly my clan is not to blame nor our the members, GM^ is a fun clan orientated around having a good Time.

    Nextly I myself am not racist in the slightest I have lived in london most my life and have many coloured best friends.

    My message is not meant to be Racist and many of the people of the server laughed, I could of said anything could of been burnt etc... e.g. sheep, hamsters or even Limeys It is merely how you interprete the message that affects your opinion on it, I implemented it as humour and not any form of racism.

    You may not understand the comedy in that and if you dont watch:

    "Harry Enfield and Chums, Old mens sketch"

    As for silent, Silent I noticed how you failed to show the few mesages in the game before showing your complete lack of teamwork and extreme arrogance to other people, Merely showing this post at all proves this.

    Now you may Ban me and purely me, My clan has no part in this, I wish for you to realise it is not an act of racism and After these messages i posted many times how it was purely a joke the other people in the server seemed to get the comical side of it i appologise if you did'nt.
  • FantasmoFantasmo Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7369Members
    I find it sad that you need to employ racial slurs in your jokes... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ... I'm quite surprised that you're British. All my British friends have loads of wit, I never see them have to stoop to this level for a laugh... do you?

    I wouldn't be too fond of people who find this kinda humor funny but the screenshot doesn't show them contributing to the comments so I think Recon's request isn't altogether unreasonable.

    His whole clan shouldn't suffer for his tasteless comments, but I think it's fair that he should remained kicked and banned.
  • GMRecoNGMRecoN Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10710Members
    hmm...ile explain one more time,

    This humour is'nt racist and not aimed at any other skin colour, hair colour, human features.

    I do not stoop to any level to gain comical satifaction, It all comes to what you define humourous.

    As ive said you may ban me but I find that discriminating to ban someone for finding something comical, As ive previosly stated SBV has'nt showed any of the other messages only what suited him to show me at my worst, Im not racist and nor have I ever been.
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    edited December 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin---]GM^RecoN[-+Dec 13 2002, 01:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-]GM^RecoN[- @ Dec 13 2002, 01:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->My message is not meant to be Racist and many of the people of the server laughed<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ok the teams were me and the two GM members, and the other team were the other 2 players (look at bottom of the screenshot to see the players on the server at the current time) notice that i didnt laugh, and that your other clan member didnt laugh and that it was in team say so the other people did not laugh. And i still fail to see this as "funny".
  • MercenaryForHireMercenaryForHire Join Date: 2002-10-03 Member: 1410Members
    <!--QuoteBegin---]GM^RecoN[-+Dec 14 2002, 02:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-]GM^RecoN[- @ Dec 14 2002, 02:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->hmm...ile explain one more time,

    This humour is'nt racist and not aimed at any other skin colour, hair colour, human features.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yet you gratutiously use the "N-word" like a giggling schoolboy who just found out it's "dirty".

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I do not stoop to any level to gain comical satifaction, It all comes to what you define humourous.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Anyone who defines racism of that degree as "humourous" is defintely stooping <b>very</b> low.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As ive said you may ban me but I find that discriminating to ban someone for finding something comical, As ive previosly stated SBV has'nt showed any of the other messages only what suited him to show me at my worst, Im not racist and nor have I ever been.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    How is "all n*****s should be burnt at the stake after watching there (sic) children being totured (sic)" comical? Please, point out the subtle humour in this one. It must be far above my class.

    Now if you'll excuse me ...
    /ban contains -]GM^

    - M4H
  • GMRecoNGMRecoN Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10710Members
    edited December 2002
    ok listen...

    I do not find the racism funny as ive stated twice now, So the statement of:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Yet you gratutiously use the "N-word" like a giggling schoolboy who just found out it's "dirty".
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Is overulled.

    Ile explain (Yet again).

    If you live in england Watch:

    (Harry Enfeild and chums, Old man comedy sketch)

    Racism is not funny its the generalisation of it, Think of our modern day class,
    Restricted and bounded by rules, Thinking its bad to say words and only because its been nailed into them, When it all comes down to is a mere Vibration,
    hehe now thats freedom,

    Back to the subject we are not laughing at the racism were laughing at the generelisation,
    Im anti-racism ask your self how can a person have many best friends that are coloured and find the racism of this humour comical, They cant its phycologicly impossible, You would not find the racism comical because you do not believe in it,

    Cant you see this??

    SBV You havent added that you left the server about 10 seconds after this in-game conversation,
    As posted you would not of seen the whole conversation.



    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Now if you'll excuse me ...
    /ban contains -]GM^
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If your going to add to the debate then atleast read the entire post, Ive stated two times now my clan has nothing to do with this.
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