Putting a lie in a Morpheous meme!? There is no lower low!
A lie? Ive seen more than enough extremely good quake players playing with G1s and WMOs, owning little kids whose parents bought them $ overpriced razer/zowie toys that shoot rainbows and have 300000 dpi
Sure a good sensor will help ... a bit. a very little tiny bit. virtually nonexistent bit.
Everything else is just marketing department trying ot endoctrinate people into thinking that they need the latest mouse in order to be competitive.
dePARAJoin Date: 2011-04-29Member: 96321Members, Squad Five Blue
120hz (and more) Monitors are also only marketing?
Who need more than 24fps, they eye cant see more, right?
Like Rocketjump Ninja mentioned in countless mouse reviews, he can still play good with an 14€ mouse but he cant play on his full potential cause the mouse spins out sometimes or the mouse is not comfortable.
If someone has zero brain hand coordination the best mouse in the world would not help him. But thats not the point.
I tried multiple mice like mentioned before, most of them had the same sensor (3310) but i couldnt play with most.
Why? Cause to light or to heavy. Shape was not comfortable, horrible mouse wheels, etc.
Soul_RiderMod BeanJoin Date: 2004-06-19Member: 29388Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
edited February 2017
To be fair a lot of the new mice seem to be coming out with the wicked Pixart 3366 sensor.
A few of the mice with it -
Finalmouse Scream One
G502, G303, G403, G900, G Pro
Rival 700
Corsair M65 Pro
Cougar Revenger
Nixeus REVEL
Dream Machines Pro 1
There's mice from £30 up to the top of the range goliaths coming with this sensor. So i expect a lot of people will find a mouse they like, especially as it becomes more mainstream.
Mouse is also very important, if it doesn't fit your hand right, is cheap and has sensor jump, you plain won't perform as well as you can.
Best mouse is also highly subjective due to things like hand size, grip type and movement styles, changing a mouse can really improve your game massively, if you get the right mouse for you. A more expensive mouse is less likely to have jumping cursors and spin-outs than a cheaper mouse, so less to interrupt your flow and playstyle.
Don't underestimate the performance benefits of the right gaming equipment for you.
Unless you plan to become a multi-million pound earning pro-gamer, I'd also say, don't worry about it...
Buy something that feels right and you like the thought of owning.
IxianDenmarkJoin Date: 2014-03-16Member: 194783Members, Squad Five Blue
Mouse does matter. It is basicly a bottleneck of your execution. Is the sensor good enough to detect the smallest movement? is the shape easy to hold in your prefered style of grip? Do you shake slightly like I do, and want a heavy mouse to feel when you are shaking? Is it too heavy, too light, or just right? Even if it is right, for how long can you do that? Depending on whether you use your arm at all, or just wrist (and fingers) to aim, it may take its toll in the long run. Is the mouse too big or too small? Is the wire too tense or do you actually want that slight resistance? Is the clicking too loud and annoying? Is it too easy or too hard to click? Is there other buttons? Are they obstructing your fingers or annoying in any way, or do they fit the design? Is the mouse designed for MOBA style games, or FPS style games? Can you replace the parts and if yes, how easily can you do it? Does it break after 3 months or last for a lifetime? And thats only the mouse itself - lets go to the implimentation of the data into the game?
Is it OW? Then you can go quite low on sens, but might need acceleration if too low, as flanking is a major part of the game, and melee combat is common. Is like NS2? You can actually go too low sens, as vertical aiming is very difficult and melee is is extreemely common. As alien, you might even want to go x1.5 your marine sensitivity or like some players, x10, or if your brain cannot wrap itself around that, just stick to the same sens? Is it CSGO? You can go very low sens, as melee is extreemely rare, and movement is primarily done when disengaging or outside combat, as dodging is almost (!) useless. Is it SC2? You wanna be able to input alot of commands and maneuver the map easily, yet be extreemely precise, so low sens is great?
Depending on game and user, the mouse and sensitivity, your "ideal" mouse changes. Not to mention you change too (muscles, growth, fat, sitting posture ect. ect.
In my prime I was using a razer deathadder 2013 on a razer goliathus. I eventually moved over to the SS rival. Now I use a zowie FK1 on a qck heavy or hyperx fury (but no longer play ns2)
I've been wanting to test out the Pixart PMW 3366 vs the Avago ADNS S3095 iv been using for 4.5 years now, i hear only good things about the Pixart PMW 3366.
How much dpi a mouse can achieve should be the last thing on ones mind when buying a mouse for use in FPS games. Things such as acceleration, prediction, maximum perfect tracking speed, lag or delay, smoothing, lift off distance, malfunction/skipping speed, jitter, pixel walk and pixel skipping are all far more important factors when looking for a mouse. The actual characteristics of what your hand is doing vs the movement of the crosshair on screen is incredibly important. Staying away from sensors that have inherent positive/negative acceleration, prediction/angle snapping or any sort of interpolation across its dpi levels is a good thing. Using a sensor with all of those enabled performs MASSIVELY different from one /w plain 1:1 movement ratio. Even mice with the same sensor may perform differently due to the way the sensor is implemented.
Curious: Does anyone havea G400S? Mine tends to look down if i swipe left/right repetitively. Even if i flip the mouse upside down, in-game still tends to look down
Curious: Does anyone havea G400S? Mine tends to look down if i swipe left/right repetitively. Even if i flip the mouse upside down, in-game still tends to look down
Even modern sensors like the 3310 have a spin-out issue in special situations, im sure older sensors have more of these problems:
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A lie? Ive seen more than enough extremely good quake players playing with G1s and WMOs, owning little kids whose parents bought them $ overpriced razer/zowie toys that shoot rainbows and have 300000 dpi
Sure a good sensor will help ... a bit. a very little tiny bit. virtually nonexistent bit.
Everything else is just marketing department trying ot endoctrinate people into thinking that they need the latest mouse in order to be competitive.
Also pro/godlikes pwning little kids, that is a bit of an odd scale for skill/mouse effectiveness
Who need more than 24fps, they eye cant see more, right?
Like Rocketjump Ninja mentioned in countless mouse reviews, he can still play good with an 14€ mouse but he cant play on his full potential cause the mouse spins out sometimes or the mouse is not comfortable.
If someone has zero brain hand coordination the best mouse in the world would not help him. But thats not the point.
I tried multiple mice like mentioned before, most of them had the same sensor (3310) but i couldnt play with most.
Why? Cause to light or to heavy. Shape was not comfortable, horrible mouse wheels, etc.
Yea true
Still you can find very good players with very "bad" mice, and conversely very bad players with mice regarded as very good.
no
A few of the mice with it -
Finalmouse Scream One
G502, G303, G403, G900, G Pro
Rival 700
Corsair M65 Pro
Cougar Revenger
Nixeus REVEL
Dream Machines Pro 1
There's mice from £30 up to the top of the range goliaths coming with this sensor. So i expect a lot of people will find a mouse they like, especially as it becomes more mainstream.
Mouse is also very important, if it doesn't fit your hand right, is cheap and has sensor jump, you plain won't perform as well as you can.
Best mouse is also highly subjective due to things like hand size, grip type and movement styles, changing a mouse can really improve your game massively, if you get the right mouse for you. A more expensive mouse is less likely to have jumping cursors and spin-outs than a cheaper mouse, so less to interrupt your flow and playstyle.
Don't underestimate the performance benefits of the right gaming equipment for you.
Unless you plan to become a multi-million pound earning pro-gamer, I'd also say, don't worry about it...
Buy something that feels right and you like the thought of owning.
If Logitech doesn't call it the PX518
Is it OW? Then you can go quite low on sens, but might need acceleration if too low, as flanking is a major part of the game, and melee combat is common. Is like NS2? You can actually go too low sens, as vertical aiming is very difficult and melee is is extreemely common. As alien, you might even want to go x1.5 your marine sensitivity or like some players, x10, or if your brain cannot wrap itself around that, just stick to the same sens? Is it CSGO? You can go very low sens, as melee is extreemely rare, and movement is primarily done when disengaging or outside combat, as dodging is almost (!) useless. Is it SC2? You wanna be able to input alot of commands and maneuver the map easily, yet be extreemely precise, so low sens is great?
Depending on game and user, the mouse and sensitivity, your "ideal" mouse changes. Not to mention you change too (muscles, growth, fat, sitting posture ect. ect.
/rant.
U dont have to have the latest mouse to play at your very best.
True, but you have to have the best mouse to play at your very best.
Seems reasonable
Put a man in a boat and he cannot compete in a street race
Put a man in a car...
Well shouldn't you be able to answer that question yourself?
Hand measured (19cm x 10cm), I will find a mouse appropriate for that. Thanks for your inputs.
Somehow I found this very funny
It's doable in trem. In fact, as aliens my accuracy didnt drop that much
Even modern sensors like the 3310 have a spin-out issue in special situations, im sure older sensors have more of these problems:
Your argument is invalid x)
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