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Upcomming Events:

Mod spotlight revived? No, its another Saturday mod night at Woozas!
Join us to experience what has been hidden. On Saturday night we will play Siege+, Defense and Faded.
How long will you survive?

Date:
06/11/2016
Saturday 8pm UTC (1pm PDT)

Game Modes:
Siege+
Defense
Faded

Server:
Wooza's Saturday Mod Night (24 Slots + 4 Specs)

Server News:
You can find the complete changelog on my Steam Profile or in the Archive

06/06/2016
- Wooza's Hamster Wheel: All spectator slots have been removed. Server runs now with 32 Slots.

06/04/2016
-BotManager added: Players can now play with bots to seed the servers easier.

05/28/2016
- A nostalgic NS2:Combat event! Tonight at 7pm UTC / 12:00PM PDT

05/22/2016
- Wooza's Playground: Two new secret maps added! Find them with the command sh_listmaps

05/16/2016
-New mod added which helps server performance! Special thanks to NoM

05/10/2016
- Woozas removed from Hive by UWE

05/08/2016
- Wooza's Playground: Map added: ns2_ayumi
- Wooza's Playground: Secret map added! Can you find it? Hint: Use command sh_listmaps to see all running maps on the server

05/02/2016
- Wooza's Size Zero (24 Slots) server created. A Server so small, it's painful to watch!
- Wooza's Rookie Magnet (24 Slots, Rookie only) server created.

04/30/2016
- Zycar presents Siege+! Find the game mode on "Wooza's Siege+ Back to the Roots!" server.
- (Don't forget to select "ALL" in your NS2 Server browser to find the server)

2016-25-03
- How many kills have been made in a year on Wooza's Playground? Guess and win here
- Easter Badges added to all Woozas server


Server Information
Wooza's Playground (42Slots + 4 Spectator Slots)
Wooza's Hamster Wheel(32 Slots + 10 Spectator Slots)
Wooza's Side Zero (24 Slots)
Wooza's Rookies Magnet (24 Slots, rookie only)
Wooza's Club Bizarre (24 Slots, The Faded Mode, Defence Mode)
Wooza's Siege+ Back to the roots! (24 Slots + 4 Spectator, Siege Mode)

DC_Darkling

24 slot isnt small damnit.
hahah, im happy to have another 'normal' sizes server where I can play on. Nice list Wooza

Vetinari

I would love to see more action on Wooza's Club Bizarre. I love the faded mod but rarely get to play it.

coolitic

F0rdPrefect wrote: »

I would love to see more action on Wooza's Club Bizarre. I love the faded mod but rarely get to play it.

Yeah it seems interesting, but never actually got the chance to play it.

amoral

side zero is not objectionable

Martigen

Faded is fantastic. I seeded and spammed my Steam friends list for a number of weeks when Wooz first hosted it for Kat, we got some big games going and it was a ton of fun. It's a seriously addictive game mode, but like NS2 itself it takes a little getting used to. I don't have time to seed these days. I think more people would love to play it regularly, if they'd give it a chance.

There is a strange resistance to change in the NS2 community. Custom maps. Mods like Faded. All we see is the same vanilla maps played over and over and over and over over and over and over... *yawn*

Pelargir

Thanks for keeping this thread on-topic. Any irrelevant comment will be deleted.

Rammler

if you have some statistics from ns2large i would love to hear them. i am not sure that build 297 is balanced for large servers. is winrate near 50/50?

Nordic

Rammler wrote: »

if you have some statistics from ns2large i would love to hear them. i am not sure that build 297 is balanced for large servers. is winrate near 50/50?

Wooza statistics
http://apheriox.com/wonitor/

B296 Stats
http://apheriox.com/wonitor/configurator.html#x=winner&y=count&serverId_is=po6yMII6Le&map_mt=ns2_*&numPlayers_gt=12&version_is=296

B297 stats
http://apheriox.com/wonitor/configurator.html#x=winner&y=count&serverId_is=po6yMII6Le&map_mt=ns2_*&numPlayers_gt=12&version_is=297

remi

Nordic wrote: »

Rammler wrote: »

if you have some statistics from ns2large i would love to hear them. i am not sure that build 297 is balanced for large servers. is winrate near 50/50?

Wooza statistics
http://apheriox.com/wonitor/

B296 Stats
http://apheriox.com/wonitor/configurator.html#x=winner&y=count&serverId_is=po6yMII6Le&map_mt=ns2_*&numPlayers_gt=12&version_is=296

B297 stats
http://apheriox.com/wonitor/configurator.html#x=winner&y=count&serverId_is=po6yMII6Le&map_mt=ns2_*&numPlayers_gt=12&version_is=297

The difference in win-rate looks huge, but since it's such a small sample size, is not actually considered statistically relevant, according to Fisher's exact test... ( used http://graphpad.com/quickcalcs/contingency1/ with groups: [161,187] and [105,94] )

Also, @Rammler is correct. UWE only attempts to balance for 12-24 players. It is up to its maintainers to balance ns2large as appropriate.

Bollwerk

remi wrote: »

Nordic wrote: »

Rammler wrote: »

if you have some statistics from ns2large i would love to hear them. i am not sure that build 297 is balanced for large servers. is winrate near 50/50?

Wooza statistics
http://apheriox.com/wonitor/

B296 Stats
http://apheriox.com/wonitor/configurator.html#x=winner&y=count&serverId_is=po6yMII6Le&map_mt=ns2_*&numPlayers_gt=12&version_is=296

B297 stats
http://apheriox.com/wonitor/configurator.html#x=winner&y=count&serverId_is=po6yMII6Le&map_mt=ns2_*&numPlayers_gt=12&version_is=297

The difference in win-rate looks huge, but since it's such a small sample size, is not actually considered statistically relevant, according to Fisher's exact test... ( used http://graphpad.com/quickcalcs/contingency1/ with groups: [161,187] and [105,94] )

Also, @Rammler is correct. UWE only attempts to balance for 12-24 players. It is up to its maintainers to balance ns2large as appropriate.

I beg to differ, this is no sample. The coverage of the statistic is 100% of the applicable matches. There is no error to be calculated.

So it is safe to state that:
The average game on Wooza's was more balanced during 296 than it was during 297.

Here's the charts with min 24 players:

B296 Stats
http://apheriox.com/wonitor/configurator.html#x=winner&y=count&serverId_is=po6yMII6Le&map_mt=ns2_*&numPlayers_gt=24&version_is=296

B297 Stats
http://apheriox.com/wonitor/configurator.html#x=winner&y=count&serverId_is=po6yMII6Le&map_mt=ns2_*&numPlayers_gt=24&version_is=297

remi

Bollwerk wrote: »

I beg to differ, this is no sample. The coverage of the statistic is 100% of the applicable matches. There is no error to be calculated.

So it is safe to state that:
The average game on Wooza's was more balanced during 296 than it was during 297.

Here is an analogy: If you flip a quarter only twice, but it lands heads both times, is it unbalanced?

And another one, from @Nordic: Is a piece of toast with butter on one side balanced?

Bollwerk

remi wrote: »

Bollwerk wrote: »

I beg to differ, this is no sample. The coverage of the statistic is 100% of the applicable matches. There is no error to be calculated.

So it is safe to state that:
The average game on Wooza's was more balanced during 296 than it was during 297.

Here is an analogy: If you flip a quarter only twice, but it lands heads both times, is it unbalanced?

And another one, from @Nordic: Is a peice of toast with butter on one side balanced?

Please re-read my statement. Your analogy is wrong.
A proper analogy would have been: If you flip a quarter only twice, but it lands heads both times, was the average outcome unbalanced? Answer: Yes, because it was heads both times whilst a balanced outcome would have been once heads and tails each.

Maybe something more than rhetorical questions would help? (pun intended)

dePARA

Pelargir wrote: »

Thanks for keeping this thread on-topic. Any irrelevant comment will be deleted.

moultano

Bollwerk wrote: »

remi wrote: »

Nordic wrote: »

Rammler wrote: »

if you have some statistics from ns2large i would love to hear them. i am not sure that build 297 is balanced for large servers. is winrate near 50/50?

Wooza statistics
http://apheriox.com/wonitor/

B296 Stats
http://apheriox.com/wonitor/configurator.html#x=winner&y=count&serverId_is=po6yMII6Le&map_mt=ns2_*&numPlayers_gt=12&version_is=296

B297 stats
http://apheriox.com/wonitor/configurator.html#x=winner&y=count&serverId_is=po6yMII6Le&map_mt=ns2_*&numPlayers_gt=12&version_is=297

The difference in win-rate looks huge, but since it's such a small sample size, is not actually considered statistically relevant, according to Fisher's exact test... ( used http://graphpad.com/quickcalcs/contingency1/ with groups: [161,187] and [105,94] )

Also, @Rammler is correct. UWE only attempts to balance for 12-24 players. It is up to its maintainers to balance ns2large as appropriate.

I beg to differ, this is no sample. The coverage of the statistic is 100% of the applicable matches. There is no error to be calculated.

So it is safe to state that:
The average game on Wooza's was more balanced during 296 than it was during 297.

That's not how statistics works. The question you are trying to answer is "what's the probability that Marines will win the next game?" That is a quantity that you can get evidence for, but you cannot directly observe.

wooza

05/28/2016
- A nostalgic NS2:Combat event! Tonight at 7pm UTC / 12:00PM PDT

RevanCorana

wooza wrote: »

05/28/2016
- A nostalgic NS2:Combat event! Tonight at 7pm UTC / 12:00PM PDT

Edited: Refrain from being aggressive. Thanks.

Nordic

wooza wrote: »

05/28/2016
- A nostalgic NS2:Combat event! Tonight at 7pm UTC / 12:00PM PDT

Ill try to be there.

deathshroud

RevanCorana wrote: »

wooza wrote: »

05/28/2016
- A nostalgic NS2:Combat event! Tonight at 7pm UTC / 12:00PM PDT

So you dare coming look for players on this forum after renaming your lagfest of a server "UWE wants this server dead" ? rofl
For your information if they really wanted it closed it would be closed. (and considering the recent dramarhea you keep creating to drag attention maybe that's how it should be)

no need for all the hostility

RevanCorana

deathshroud wrote: »

RevanCorana wrote: »

wooza wrote: »

05/28/2016
- A nostalgic NS2:Combat event! Tonight at 7pm UTC / 12:00PM PDT

So you dare coming look for players on this forum after renaming your lagfest of a server "UWE wants this server dead" ? rofl
For your information if they really wanted it closed it would be closed. (and considering the recent dramarhea you keep creating to drag attention maybe that's how it should be)

no need for all the hostility

Edited: No naming and shaming allowed in this forum.

MoFo1

deathshroud wrote: »

RevanCorana wrote: »

wooza wrote: »

05/28/2016
- A nostalgic NS2:Combat event! Tonight at 7pm UTC / 12:00PM PDT

So you dare coming look for players on this forum after renaming your lagfest of a server "UWE wants this server dead" ? rofl
For your information if they really wanted it closed it would be closed. (and considering the recent dramarhea you keep creating to drag attention maybe that's how it should be)

no need for all the hostility

There may be no need for it, but you can't say it's not justified... I've even noticed his review now has the lie "woozas the oldest and most popular ns2 servers around"

So he sort of brings all this hate down on himself with his toxic actions.

Sintax

Wooza's was moved out-of-view for new players, and any players who forget to visit the 'modded' tab. I forget to look there myself half the time. There was no reason to move the server to a different tab considering there arent even enough servers to fill 1 screen. The changes are definitely detrimental to the server's livlihood; a server that helped keep the game alive in the days where player numbers dropped their lowest.

Wake

Please, not again.

Wooza is just informing us here about an event.
Setting up events like this are a fine way to keep interest in the game alive.
There is nothing negative in this announcement.

I'm thru these tactics used to sink or make threads getting closed by stating disputes / pointless arguments.
You're at war, fine, go fight it on the right battlefield, not here.

I will use an understatement aka anti-<span style="color:orange">ICPM</span> (Inter Continental Private Message): Some attitudes here make some people looks like they could be assimilated to an unpleasant sensation in a part of our body that may serve different purposes, one beeing: sitting on a chair before your computer reading all this nonsense.

RevanCorana

Wake wrote: »

pointless arguments.

Mmh? speak for yourself, all I understand from your comment is, wooza is good, wooza is not bad, you are crap.
Quite the definition of a pointless argument.

Also,

now don't call me the drama starter.

DC_Darkling

I have to agree with Wake.
lets not make this another Wooza vs others war.
The OP clearly is just pure information about Wooza's servers and the events he runs. NOTHING wrong with that. If you agree or disagree with big servers is irrelevant.
Move on if you dont like it, but lets not complain about a topic doing exactly what its title says.

MoFo1

DC_Darkling wrote: »

. If you agree or disagree with big servers is irrelevant.

Agreed this isn't even about the whole big servers vs small servers thing anymore.. It's degraded to an extremely toxic individual spreading lies and misinformation while at the same time seemingly trying to "punish" uwe by making them look like bad scammy devs...

You have to admit it's kind of fubar that he lies in his steam review to make people think his server is better than vanilla ns2, names his server "uwe wants this server dead" (which gives new players on his server an incorrect bad impression of uwe) then comes on here acting all innocent like all he wants to do is promote an event...

You can't blame people for being a little peeved at such behavior...

migalski

This is a thread that actually should be moderated rofl, make a new topic to complain about things but this is way off topic

DC_Darkling

yeh what @mihalski says.. No matter how that situation is, its not related. And i doubt new players care at all.

SupaDupaNoodle

Thanks for your efforts @wooza !

MoFo1

DC_Darkling wrote: »

And i doubt new players care at all.

How can they care if they don't even realize they're being lied to?

I'm sure most people dislike being lied to... Look at the rage that gamers display whenever a developer lies.. Just because it's a server owner instead of a dev doesn't make it right...

You are right that this thread shouldn't be derailed any further though... So lets go back on the topic of information about woozas...

Care to inform people what you hoped to accomplish when you renamed your server "UWE wants this server dead"??

I mean clearly that's not true considering all the support they've given large and the fact that you're not shut down... Honestly stuff like that makes it look like you simply want NS2 to die off completely...

Pelargir

Thanks for not derailing the thread any longer.