A few theories...

JamezorgJamezorg United Kingdom Join Date: 2016-05-15 Member: 216788Members
Sometimes when I play Subnautica I don't do anything survival or exploration oriented. I sometimes just type Ency all and read PDA entries of all of the different creatures and the Degasi and Aurora survivors. I do this a lot, and I've come up with a few theories based on what I've read:

1. Almost every ray in the game is related
I sometimes read things that become embedded in my mind, one of them being that the Rabbit Ray has poisonous flesh. What I found interesting, though, was that the Ghostray has poisonous flesh, too. They look quite similar and they have certain genetic similarities, so I don't find it too strange that the rabbit ray is a more small and docile, shallows version of the Ghostray, or, in my theory, the Jellyray. It says straight out in the PDA that the Ghostray and the Jellyray are related, and I suspect that the Ghostray evolved from Jellyrays that migrated to the deep seas, and the rabbit rays evolved from Jellyrays that moved closer to the Safe Shallows.
And then there's the Crimson Ray. This one is the most obvious one. The Ghostrays dwell very close to the Lava Biome, so it wouldn't be too crazy to say that some got curious, went down there and decided to live there.

2. Reefbacks came from the DGR
We know very little about the Reefback, since its shell is so thick that you can't scan it properly.
I'll start off by saying that many deep sea creatures in this game, like the Ghostray, the Crabsnake, the Jellyray in the case of the DGR and the concept art from the Phantom, don't have eyes, and I expect they use echolocation to see (even though no PDA entries confirm my suspicions). There aren't too many creatures above ground that have no eyes. There's the Bleeder, I suppose. But the Reeback is a different story, it doesn't make sense when it comes to its looks. Sharks have blue tops and white stomachs so that prey above cannot see the shark from the top, since it is the same colour as the deep sea, and predators beneath can't see it since its belly is the same colour as the sky above. The Reefback dwells at the top of the ocean, even though it has a blue top, and it has a black bottom, which is counter productive (unless it's night, and even then it has glowing green lumps beneath). I suspect that, since it's shell is the same colour as Deep Grand Reef floor, and it's bottom is very dark, they originally came from the DGR.
But then the Degasi survivors arrived and lured Sea Dragons into the caves.
That made them migrate ten years ago.

Many spoilers ahead:
3.
Warpers were created using Emperor DNA
This one is rather self explanatory. Both of these creatures looks rather similar, from their claw like arms (which the Emperor now has animations for :) ) to the tentacles. They are also both immune to the Carar.

4. The Aurora crashed into an island
My original theory was that the Cave Crawlers were created and transported to 4546B for some reason, since the Degasi crashed near the Flotaing Island, which has Cave Crawlers, and the Aurora was littered with them. But they are on the mountain island too, which killed the theory. But the locations of the Cave Crawlers still have something in common: they are both islands. Around the Aurora you can see small little fragments of an island, and that paired with the inclusion of Cave Crawlers makes me think that the Aurora crashed into an island; a Dunes island, the largest island. The Crash Site looks like it was once a Dunes, and Reapers surround the area too. It doesn't appear that there are any mountains around the crash site, so I think that this was the island.

But I have another theory that rivals this one.

5. Cave Crawlers are lured to corpses like magnets
I think it's safe to say that a lot of people died on the Aurora, but you don't see any of the corpses. I'm going to quote the Cave Crawler PDA entry: "This species seeks out corpses in packs, before defending its claim whilst the corpse is devoured". This is why you don't see any of those corpses on the Aurora.

The rest of this theory has spoilers:
Why are they on the Floater Island then, you ask? Well they weren't there before the Degasi crashed, since Paul states that there are no predators on the island. Only one of the Degasi survivors died on the Island: Bart. The last entry can be found on it. Paul was presumably killed by the Warper and Marguiret was killed by the Sea Dragon, no doubt. Why are they on the Mountain Island? I have a theory that the Precursors are actually friends of Mankind who used this planet as a sort of Area 51 behind the Humans' backs, and the Carar was an experiment that failed... And they all died. That's why the Cave Crwalers are on the Mountain Island, and no Precursor corpses are dead there.

They're just some of my theories that I have pieced together whilst reading the PDAs. Thanks for reading, this took me a while :)

Comments

  • phantomfinchphantomfinch West Philadelphia , born and raised on the playground is where I spent most of my days. Join Date: 2016-09-06 Member: 222128Members
    some of these theories don't make much sense like the degasi crew creating reef backs. First of why would they need to do this they had grow beds to create crops and could catch fish easily. Secondly to create life would need a lot at expertise that I don't thing any of the crew have experience with crating life.

    Btw every Ray is a close cossin of each other just scan the jelly Ray and you can see it's a cossin of the rabbit Ray, and you say that the ghost Ray evolved from the jelly Ray that would be impossible because that's not how evolution works, from what your saying the jelly Ray suddenly stopped evolving but a select few diddnt and turned into ghost Ray's and Chrimson Rays.

    Wrappers are biomacanical creatures meaning that they were designed to look like that, the precursors probably made it look like that so any creature on the planet thought it was a harmless sea empower baby because of its shape. It probably gained the mandibles from the precursors observing the reaper using there's to hunt and crush prey.

    The aurora has fragments of land beside it because IT CRASHED AND LEFT A TRAIL have you never been to the back end of the aurora the place is a massive canyon where the ship crashed and keeper its forward momentum.

    the only theory that is right even though it is proven right seeing the cave crawlers are labled "parasites and scavengers" in the scanner index.

    I diddnt mean this in a mean way if you get that tone I just wanted to educate you
  • JamezorgJamezorg United Kingdom Join Date: 2016-05-15 Member: 216788Members
    some of these theories don't make much sense like the degasi crew creating reef backs.

    I didn't say they did. Not once. I said Marguiret luring the Sea Dragons to the DGR drove them away.
    Btw every Ray is a close cossin of each other just scan the jelly Ray and you can see it's a cossin of the rabbit Ray, and you say that the ghost Ray evolved from the jelly Ray that would be impossible because that's not how evolution works, from what your saying the jelly Ray suddenly stopped evolving but a select few diddnt and turned into ghost Ray's and Chrimson Rays.

    I meant over the course of millions of years, I didn't mean instantly. We evolved from monkeys. Ghostrays evolved from Jellyrays. Same thing.
    Wrappers are biomacanical creatures meaning that they were designed to look like that, the precursors probably made it look like that so any creature on the planet thought it was a harmless sea empower baby because of its shape.

    That is exactly what I meant.
    The aurora has fragments of land beside it because IT CRASHED AND LEFT A TRAIL have you never been to the back end of the aurora the place is a massive canyon where the ship crashed and keeper its forward momentum.

    I agree number 5 is more likely than number 4, saying that the Cave Crawlers were lured to the ship and weren't already there. Also I don't understand the caps here.
    the only theory that is right even though it is proven right seeing the cave crawlers are labled "parasites and scavengers" in the scanner index.

    It says that they're scavengers in the PDAs. I said I was getting information from PDA entries.

    I diddnt mean this in a mean way if you get that tone I just wanted to educate you

    Brilliant, thanks for that by the way.

  • phantomfinchphantomfinch West Philadelphia , born and raised on the playground is where I spent most of my days. Join Date: 2016-09-06 Member: 222128Members
    edited October 2016
    Jamezorg wrote: »

    I meant over the course of millions of years, I didn't mean instantly. We evolved from monkeys. Ghostrays evolved from Jellyrays. Same thing.

    We didn't evolve from monkeys if we did there would be no monkeys, evolution doesn't stop its a constant progress the Rays in the game had a last common ancestor, if you are familiar with this term them good job if not let me explain.
    A last common ancestor is there multiple species originated from but slowly evolved to their surroundings such as dawins finches. Charles Darwin one took a trip to the galapagose island and took note on some of the birds there. He noticed that 4 of the birds had same body shape but different types of beaks., each one used for eating a different type of food such as nuts insects and insects living inside trees. Each bird had a different way of eating even though they all looked similar. That's because all the birds one had a common ansestor species that migrated to the different islands that all had different types of food so the birds needed to adapt to their surroundings.

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  • IcremunIcremun Join Date: 2016-09-12 Member: 222276Members
    Jamezorg wrote: »

    I meant over the course of millions of years, I didn't mean instantly. We evolved from monkeys. Ghostrays evolved from Jellyrays. Same thing.

    We didn't evolve from monkeys if we did there would be no monkeys, evolution doesn't stop its a constant progress the Rays in the game had a last common ancestor, if you are familiar with this term them good job if not let me explain.
    A last common ancestor is there multiple species originated from but slowly evolved to their surroundings such as dawins finches. Charles Darwin one took a trip to the galapagose island and took note on some of the birds there. He noticed that 4 of the birds had same body shape but different types of beaks., each one used for eating a different type of food such as nuts insects and insects living inside trees. Each bird had a different way of eating even though they all looked similar. That's because all the birds one had a common ansestor species that migrated to the different islands that all had different types of food so the birds needed to adapt to their surroundings.

    xg3x6d441b31.jpeg

    "We didn't evolve from monkeys if we did there would be no monkeys"
    As long as the original species is still viable in there environment then they would continue to survive even if a more advanced species had evolved from them, rarely do ancestors of a species die out unless the reason for evolution is to survive something that is threatening to wipe out the population. Also a genetic variation is not guaranteed.

    So we most likely evolved from monkeys as they are the closest animal to us.

    Unless you are saying that we did not evolve from monkeys but there ancestors. But people a couple of hundred years ago were quite different but we still class them as humans.

    The diagram that is shown shows the evolution pattern of a bird that was force to change due to a change in environment. If there were no strains on the animal then the graph would be like a y not a T.

    Look at this it shows that 'monkeys' evolved from "old world Monkeys" wich continued to survive long after other anamals evolved from it.
    http://darwiniana.org/phillytree.gif
  • IcremunIcremun Join Date: 2016-09-12 Member: 222276Members
    edited October 2016
    Also reading through this thread i think that it has gotten very off topic.
  • kubazet99kubazet99 Czech Republic Join Date: 2016-08-17 Member: 221450Members
    I dont think warpers are imune,they just cant get Carra disease becuse thy dont eat,drink even arent breathing.I think carrar is spreading by food/Breathing water,so how can warpers get carrar if they dont eat,dring etc.
  • hugothesilverdragonhugothesilverdragon canad Join Date: 2015-11-30 Member: 209620Members
    well the devs ever said that warpers cant get carar
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