First Grand Reef Election Debate

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  • ResolutionBlazeResolutionBlaze The Dunes Join Date: 2016-04-06 Member: 215392Members
    Ah yes, the invite appears to have expired for me. Well, here's your first question anyways: This year, the crashing of the Aurora Starship in sovereign 4546B waters has massively impacted the climate and landscape of our planet. Most candidates agree that the waters should be freed of extraneous wreckage, but there has been a lot of bluster on both sides of the isle (see what I did there :wink: ). My question for party representatives is how exactly do you propose to deal with the wreckage? What steps would you take to solve this issue with your first 100 days in office? What aspects make your plan better than the other parties' plans? What aspects make the other parties' worse?

    Members of the National Violence Party are already clearing the wreckage as we speak.

    Where is your authorization from President Peeper? If you don't have one, then this is a heinous breach of code and conduct.

    Authorization to clear out obviously hazardous technology from our seas? What has this ocean come to?

    I follow no code of conduct except the code of nature. We need to combine our efforts to rid this large pile of rubbish so we can continue to live in a productive ecosystem.

    There could be things of use in that wreckage. What if the cure to the Carar plague is in the wreckage, and you simply threw it away with no thoughts of your fellow species? And as for code, you know as well as the rest of us that a project that big can only be greenlit by the leader of the biome, of which their currently is none, or the President.

    The chances of that is astronomical, nor would any fish in this sea understand how to use such technology, nor would such a risk assume that we should leave it to plague our seas more. The Party's decision is final.

    Your party's decision goes against our laws. I plead with our President to enforce said laws, and allow this issue to be dealt with in the correct fashion. If this is allowed to continue, what next? Do you think the NVP will accept any leader but themselves? I, for one, fear that the NVP will attempt to push us into a dictatorship, and do not believe that that is how our society should be run.

    Dictatorship? If removing a threat to the ecosystem is considered dictatorship, by all means, let dictatorship rule!

    But regardless, this is an exaggeration. Our Party has always been a majority Naturalist; meaning we regard nature as the only power worthy of maintaining an ecosystem, and that governmental authority against this should be minimal. Removing the Aurora as soon as possible is what is necessary, rather than waiting for an "official" order to do so. Then we can back away and let nature take it's course, the cycle continuing as normal.

    What we currently have is leading to a system of government which does not allow nature to take its course... which may lead to disgusting ideas such as Predator Genocide or Carniphobia.

    I rest my case. The NVP has no interest in participating in a democratic election. If they lose, they will simply attempt a hostile takeover. I call upon President Peeper to condemn this treachery, this treason!

    You fool! We need not take over!

    If we lose, we are the food-chain's top predator.

    If we win, we are still the food-chain's top predator.

    We have nothing to lose but our homes, our families, our ecosystem. Systematic power is of no interest to us. What is of interest to us is that we have a stable and healthy ecosystem, running as it should.

    And the best way to have that is for everything to be carefully maintained, without anyone undertaking massive service projects unauthorized. Or have you forgotten that others live near the wreckage? That you could be destroying their homes as we speak? There are reasons for rules. The keep this society safe. We are no longer barbarians, and we will not return to that standard.

    Barbarians? Following the same guideline in which this sea has been run and successfully maintained is barbarism? So be it. What next?

    "Prey rights"?

    The same philosophy that those Communists preach? That would result in the extinction of all predators.

    The wreckage does not belong there, and we will remove it. It has destroyed and killed hundreds of sea dwellers and thousands of homes. The last thing I am concerned about is some new fish selfishly occupying the space of a unnatural disaster. And nor will I allow it to remain. And nor will I allow the wreckage to plague our seas, for metal to kill off Coral plants and animals.

    People of Subnautica. Is this the kind of fish you want running our government? One who has no notion of rules? One who will simply do as he wishes, no matter what the rest of us think is best? The NVP are nothing but a group of super-predators. Leviathan class. A danger to every other organism is this ocean. They care not for anyone but themselves. They don't deserve this position.

    Carnophobia at work.
  • dealwithitdogdealwithitdog Texas Join Date: 2016-06-09 Member: 218343Members
    Ah yes, the invite appears to have expired for me. Well, here's your first question anyways: This year, the crashing of the Aurora Starship in sovereign 4546B waters has massively impacted the climate and landscape of our planet. Most candidates agree that the waters should be freed of extraneous wreckage, but there has been a lot of bluster on both sides of the isle (see what I did there :wink: ). My question for party representatives is how exactly do you propose to deal with the wreckage? What steps would you take to solve this issue with your first 100 days in office? What aspects make your plan better than the other parties' plans? What aspects make the other parties' worse?

    Members of the National Violence Party are already clearing the wreckage as we speak.

    Where is your authorization from President Peeper? If you don't have one, then this is a heinous breach of code and conduct.

    Authorization to clear out obviously hazardous technology from our seas? What has this ocean come to?

    I follow no code of conduct except the code of nature. We need to combine our efforts to rid this large pile of rubbish so we can continue to live in a productive ecosystem.

    There could be things of use in that wreckage. What if the cure to the Carar plague is in the wreckage, and you simply threw it away with no thoughts of your fellow species? And as for code, you know as well as the rest of us that a project that big can only be greenlit by the leader of the biome, of which their currently is none, or the President.

    The chances of that is astronomical, nor would any fish in this sea understand how to use such technology, nor would such a risk assume that we should leave it to plague our seas more. The Party's decision is final.

    Your party's decision goes against our laws. I plead with our President to enforce said laws, and allow this issue to be dealt with in the correct fashion. If this is allowed to continue, what next? Do you think the NVP will accept any leader but themselves? I, for one, fear that the NVP will attempt to push us into a dictatorship, and do not believe that that is how our society should be run.

    Dictatorship? If removing a threat to the ecosystem is considered dictatorship, by all means, let dictatorship rule!

    But regardless, this is an exaggeration. Our Party has always been a majority Naturalist; meaning we regard nature as the only power worthy of maintaining an ecosystem, and that governmental authority against this should be minimal. Removing the Aurora as soon as possible is what is necessary, rather than waiting for an "official" order to do so. Then we can back away and let nature take it's course, the cycle continuing as normal.

    What we currently have is leading to a system of government which does not allow nature to take its course... which may lead to disgusting ideas such as Predator Genocide or Carniphobia.

    I rest my case. The NVP has no interest in participating in a democratic election. If they lose, they will simply attempt a hostile takeover. I call upon President Peeper to condemn this treachery, this treason!

    You fool! We need not take over!

    If we lose, we are the food-chain's top predator.

    If we win, we are still the food-chain's top predator.

    We have nothing to lose but our homes, our families, our ecosystem. Systematic power is of no interest to us. What is of interest to us is that we have a stable and healthy ecosystem, running as it should.

    And the best way to have that is for everything to be carefully maintained, without anyone undertaking massive service projects unauthorized. Or have you forgotten that others live near the wreckage? That you could be destroying their homes as we speak? There are reasons for rules. The keep this society safe. We are no longer barbarians, and we will not return to that standard.

    Barbarians? Following the same guideline in which this sea has been run and successfully maintained is barbarism? So be it. What next?

    "Prey rights"?

    The same philosophy that those Communists preach? That would result in the extinction of all predators.

    The wreckage does not belong there, and we will remove it. It has destroyed and killed hundreds of sea dwellers and thousands of homes. The last thing I am concerned about is some new fish selfishly occupying the space of a unnatural disaster. And nor will I allow it to remain. And nor will I allow the wreckage to plague our seas, for metal to kill off Coral plants and animals.

    People of Subnautica. Is this the kind of fish you want running our government? One who has no notion of rules? One who will simply do as he wishes, no matter what the rest of us think is best? The NVP are nothing but a group of super-predators. Leviathan class. A danger to every other organism is this ocean. They care not for anyone but themselves. They don't deserve this position.

    Carnophobia at work.

    I too am a carnivore.
  • ResolutionBlazeResolutionBlaze The Dunes Join Date: 2016-04-06 Member: 215392Members
    Ah yes, the invite appears to have expired for me. Well, here's your first question anyways: This year, the crashing of the Aurora Starship in sovereign 4546B waters has massively impacted the climate and landscape of our planet. Most candidates agree that the waters should be freed of extraneous wreckage, but there has been a lot of bluster on both sides of the isle (see what I did there :wink: ). My question for party representatives is how exactly do you propose to deal with the wreckage? What steps would you take to solve this issue with your first 100 days in office? What aspects make your plan better than the other parties' plans? What aspects make the other parties' worse?

    Members of the National Violence Party are already clearing the wreckage as we speak.

    Where is your authorization from President Peeper? If you don't have one, then this is a heinous breach of code and conduct.

    Authorization to clear out obviously hazardous technology from our seas? What has this ocean come to?

    I follow no code of conduct except the code of nature. We need to combine our efforts to rid this large pile of rubbish so we can continue to live in a productive ecosystem.

    There could be things of use in that wreckage. What if the cure to the Carar plague is in the wreckage, and you simply threw it away with no thoughts of your fellow species? And as for code, you know as well as the rest of us that a project that big can only be greenlit by the leader of the biome, of which their currently is none, or the President.

    The chances of that is astronomical, nor would any fish in this sea understand how to use such technology, nor would such a risk assume that we should leave it to plague our seas more. The Party's decision is final.

    Your party's decision goes against our laws. I plead with our President to enforce said laws, and allow this issue to be dealt with in the correct fashion. If this is allowed to continue, what next? Do you think the NVP will accept any leader but themselves? I, for one, fear that the NVP will attempt to push us into a dictatorship, and do not believe that that is how our society should be run.

    Dictatorship? If removing a threat to the ecosystem is considered dictatorship, by all means, let dictatorship rule!

    But regardless, this is an exaggeration. Our Party has always been a majority Naturalist; meaning we regard nature as the only power worthy of maintaining an ecosystem, and that governmental authority against this should be minimal. Removing the Aurora as soon as possible is what is necessary, rather than waiting for an "official" order to do so. Then we can back away and let nature take it's course, the cycle continuing as normal.

    What we currently have is leading to a system of government which does not allow nature to take its course... which may lead to disgusting ideas such as Predator Genocide or Carniphobia.

    I rest my case. The NVP has no interest in participating in a democratic election. If they lose, they will simply attempt a hostile takeover. I call upon President Peeper to condemn this treachery, this treason!

    You fool! We need not take over!

    If we lose, we are the food-chain's top predator.

    If we win, we are still the food-chain's top predator.

    We have nothing to lose but our homes, our families, our ecosystem. Systematic power is of no interest to us. What is of interest to us is that we have a stable and healthy ecosystem, running as it should.

    And the best way to have that is for everything to be carefully maintained, without anyone undertaking massive service projects unauthorized. Or have you forgotten that others live near the wreckage? That you could be destroying their homes as we speak? There are reasons for rules. The keep this society safe. We are no longer barbarians, and we will not return to that standard.

    Barbarians? Following the same guideline in which this sea has been run and successfully maintained is barbarism? So be it. What next?

    "Prey rights"?

    The same philosophy that those Communists preach? That would result in the extinction of all predators.

    The wreckage does not belong there, and we will remove it. It has destroyed and killed hundreds of sea dwellers and thousands of homes. The last thing I am concerned about is some new fish selfishly occupying the space of a unnatural disaster. And nor will I allow it to remain. And nor will I allow the wreckage to plague our seas, for metal to kill off Coral plants and animals.

    People of Subnautica. Is this the kind of fish you want running our government? One who has no notion of rules? One who will simply do as he wishes, no matter what the rest of us think is best? The NVP are nothing but a group of super-predators. Leviathan class. A danger to every other organism is this ocean. They care not for anyone but themselves. They don't deserve this position.

    Carnophobia at work.

    I too am a carnivore.

    Then you ought to know what you imply. We are not super predators. In fact, we consist mostly OF predators and represent minority predators as well in some degree. You heard of the recent re-inclusion of Sandsharks into our fold, yes?

    Are they super-predators? We hunt the damn things!
  • dealwithitdogdealwithitdog Texas Join Date: 2016-06-09 Member: 218343Members
    Ah yes, the invite appears to have expired for me. Well, here's your first question anyways: This year, the crashing of the Aurora Starship in sovereign 4546B waters has massively impacted the climate and landscape of our planet. Most candidates agree that the waters should be freed of extraneous wreckage, but there has been a lot of bluster on both sides of the isle (see what I did there :wink: ). My question for party representatives is how exactly do you propose to deal with the wreckage? What steps would you take to solve this issue with your first 100 days in office? What aspects make your plan better than the other parties' plans? What aspects make the other parties' worse?

    Members of the National Violence Party are already clearing the wreckage as we speak.

    Where is your authorization from President Peeper? If you don't have one, then this is a heinous breach of code and conduct.

    Authorization to clear out obviously hazardous technology from our seas? What has this ocean come to?

    I follow no code of conduct except the code of nature. We need to combine our efforts to rid this large pile of rubbish so we can continue to live in a productive ecosystem.

    There could be things of use in that wreckage. What if the cure to the Carar plague is in the wreckage, and you simply threw it away with no thoughts of your fellow species? And as for code, you know as well as the rest of us that a project that big can only be greenlit by the leader of the biome, of which their currently is none, or the President.

    The chances of that is astronomical, nor would any fish in this sea understand how to use such technology, nor would such a risk assume that we should leave it to plague our seas more. The Party's decision is final.

    Your party's decision goes against our laws. I plead with our President to enforce said laws, and allow this issue to be dealt with in the correct fashion. If this is allowed to continue, what next? Do you think the NVP will accept any leader but themselves? I, for one, fear that the NVP will attempt to push us into a dictatorship, and do not believe that that is how our society should be run.

    Dictatorship? If removing a threat to the ecosystem is considered dictatorship, by all means, let dictatorship rule!

    But regardless, this is an exaggeration. Our Party has always been a majority Naturalist; meaning we regard nature as the only power worthy of maintaining an ecosystem, and that governmental authority against this should be minimal. Removing the Aurora as soon as possible is what is necessary, rather than waiting for an "official" order to do so. Then we can back away and let nature take it's course, the cycle continuing as normal.

    What we currently have is leading to a system of government which does not allow nature to take its course... which may lead to disgusting ideas such as Predator Genocide or Carniphobia.

    I rest my case. The NVP has no interest in participating in a democratic election. If they lose, they will simply attempt a hostile takeover. I call upon President Peeper to condemn this treachery, this treason!

    You fool! We need not take over!

    If we lose, we are the food-chain's top predator.

    If we win, we are still the food-chain's top predator.

    We have nothing to lose but our homes, our families, our ecosystem. Systematic power is of no interest to us. What is of interest to us is that we have a stable and healthy ecosystem, running as it should.

    And the best way to have that is for everything to be carefully maintained, without anyone undertaking massive service projects unauthorized. Or have you forgotten that others live near the wreckage? That you could be destroying their homes as we speak? There are reasons for rules. The keep this society safe. We are no longer barbarians, and we will not return to that standard.

    Barbarians? Following the same guideline in which this sea has been run and successfully maintained is barbarism? So be it. What next?

    "Prey rights"?

    The same philosophy that those Communists preach? That would result in the extinction of all predators.

    The wreckage does not belong there, and we will remove it. It has destroyed and killed hundreds of sea dwellers and thousands of homes. The last thing I am concerned about is some new fish selfishly occupying the space of a unnatural disaster. And nor will I allow it to remain. And nor will I allow the wreckage to plague our seas, for metal to kill off Coral plants and animals.

    People of Subnautica. Is this the kind of fish you want running our government? One who has no notion of rules? One who will simply do as he wishes, no matter what the rest of us think is best? The NVP are nothing but a group of super-predators. Leviathan class. A danger to every other organism is this ocean. They care not for anyone but themselves. They don't deserve this position.

    Carnophobia at work.

    I too am a carnivore.

    Then you ought to know what you imply. We are not super predators. In fact, we consist mostly OF predators and represent minority predators as well in some degree. You heard of the recent re-inclusion of Sandsharks into our fold, yes?

    Are they super-predators? We hunt the damn things!

    Which leads me to believe that their inclusion was not a peaceful one. It seems to be a forced inclusion, meant to make you seem less hostile then you really are.
  • ResolutionBlazeResolutionBlaze The Dunes Join Date: 2016-04-06 Member: 215392Members
    Ah yes, the invite appears to have expired for me. Well, here's your first question anyways: This year, the crashing of the Aurora Starship in sovereign 4546B waters has massively impacted the climate and landscape of our planet. Most candidates agree that the waters should be freed of extraneous wreckage, but there has been a lot of bluster on both sides of the isle (see what I did there :wink: ). My question for party representatives is how exactly do you propose to deal with the wreckage? What steps would you take to solve this issue with your first 100 days in office? What aspects make your plan better than the other parties' plans? What aspects make the other parties' worse?

    Members of the National Violence Party are already clearing the wreckage as we speak.

    Where is your authorization from President Peeper? If you don't have one, then this is a heinous breach of code and conduct.

    Authorization to clear out obviously hazardous technology from our seas? What has this ocean come to?

    I follow no code of conduct except the code of nature. We need to combine our efforts to rid this large pile of rubbish so we can continue to live in a productive ecosystem.

    There could be things of use in that wreckage. What if the cure to the Carar plague is in the wreckage, and you simply threw it away with no thoughts of your fellow species? And as for code, you know as well as the rest of us that a project that big can only be greenlit by the leader of the biome, of which their currently is none, or the President.

    The chances of that is astronomical, nor would any fish in this sea understand how to use such technology, nor would such a risk assume that we should leave it to plague our seas more. The Party's decision is final.

    Your party's decision goes against our laws. I plead with our President to enforce said laws, and allow this issue to be dealt with in the correct fashion. If this is allowed to continue, what next? Do you think the NVP will accept any leader but themselves? I, for one, fear that the NVP will attempt to push us into a dictatorship, and do not believe that that is how our society should be run.

    Dictatorship? If removing a threat to the ecosystem is considered dictatorship, by all means, let dictatorship rule!

    But regardless, this is an exaggeration. Our Party has always been a majority Naturalist; meaning we regard nature as the only power worthy of maintaining an ecosystem, and that governmental authority against this should be minimal. Removing the Aurora as soon as possible is what is necessary, rather than waiting for an "official" order to do so. Then we can back away and let nature take it's course, the cycle continuing as normal.

    What we currently have is leading to a system of government which does not allow nature to take its course... which may lead to disgusting ideas such as Predator Genocide or Carniphobia.

    I rest my case. The NVP has no interest in participating in a democratic election. If they lose, they will simply attempt a hostile takeover. I call upon President Peeper to condemn this treachery, this treason!

    You fool! We need not take over!

    If we lose, we are the food-chain's top predator.

    If we win, we are still the food-chain's top predator.

    We have nothing to lose but our homes, our families, our ecosystem. Systematic power is of no interest to us. What is of interest to us is that we have a stable and healthy ecosystem, running as it should.

    And the best way to have that is for everything to be carefully maintained, without anyone undertaking massive service projects unauthorized. Or have you forgotten that others live near the wreckage? That you could be destroying their homes as we speak? There are reasons for rules. The keep this society safe. We are no longer barbarians, and we will not return to that standard.

    Barbarians? Following the same guideline in which this sea has been run and successfully maintained is barbarism? So be it. What next?

    "Prey rights"?

    The same philosophy that those Communists preach? That would result in the extinction of all predators.

    The wreckage does not belong there, and we will remove it. It has destroyed and killed hundreds of sea dwellers and thousands of homes. The last thing I am concerned about is some new fish selfishly occupying the space of a unnatural disaster. And nor will I allow it to remain. And nor will I allow the wreckage to plague our seas, for metal to kill off Coral plants and animals.

    People of Subnautica. Is this the kind of fish you want running our government? One who has no notion of rules? One who will simply do as he wishes, no matter what the rest of us think is best? The NVP are nothing but a group of super-predators. Leviathan class. A danger to every other organism is this ocean. They care not for anyone but themselves. They don't deserve this position.

    Carnophobia at work.

    I too am a carnivore.

    Then you ought to know what you imply. We are not super predators. In fact, we consist mostly OF predators and represent minority predators as well in some degree. You heard of the recent re-inclusion of Sandsharks into our fold, yes?

    Are they super-predators? We hunt the damn things!

    Which leads me to believe that their inclusion was not a peaceful one. It seems to be a forced inclusion, meant to make you seem less hostile then you really are.

    I would hope to think you were better than a conspiracy loony.

    We. Don't. Need. Systematic. Power. We want this ecosystem to prosper, for when it prospers, ALL prosper. INCLUDING us. INCLUDING prey. INCLUDING you.
  • dealwithitdogdealwithitdog Texas Join Date: 2016-06-09 Member: 218343Members
    Ah yes, the invite appears to have expired for me. Well, here's your first question anyways: This year, the crashing of the Aurora Starship in sovereign 4546B waters has massively impacted the climate and landscape of our planet. Most candidates agree that the waters should be freed of extraneous wreckage, but there has been a lot of bluster on both sides of the isle (see what I did there :wink: ). My question for party representatives is how exactly do you propose to deal with the wreckage? What steps would you take to solve this issue with your first 100 days in office? What aspects make your plan better than the other parties' plans? What aspects make the other parties' worse?

    Members of the National Violence Party are already clearing the wreckage as we speak.

    Where is your authorization from President Peeper? If you don't have one, then this is a heinous breach of code and conduct.

    Authorization to clear out obviously hazardous technology from our seas? What has this ocean come to?

    I follow no code of conduct except the code of nature. We need to combine our efforts to rid this large pile of rubbish so we can continue to live in a productive ecosystem.

    There could be things of use in that wreckage. What if the cure to the Carar plague is in the wreckage, and you simply threw it away with no thoughts of your fellow species? And as for code, you know as well as the rest of us that a project that big can only be greenlit by the leader of the biome, of which their currently is none, or the President.

    The chances of that is astronomical, nor would any fish in this sea understand how to use such technology, nor would such a risk assume that we should leave it to plague our seas more. The Party's decision is final.

    Your party's decision goes against our laws. I plead with our President to enforce said laws, and allow this issue to be dealt with in the correct fashion. If this is allowed to continue, what next? Do you think the NVP will accept any leader but themselves? I, for one, fear that the NVP will attempt to push us into a dictatorship, and do not believe that that is how our society should be run.

    Dictatorship? If removing a threat to the ecosystem is considered dictatorship, by all means, let dictatorship rule!

    But regardless, this is an exaggeration. Our Party has always been a majority Naturalist; meaning we regard nature as the only power worthy of maintaining an ecosystem, and that governmental authority against this should be minimal. Removing the Aurora as soon as possible is what is necessary, rather than waiting for an "official" order to do so. Then we can back away and let nature take it's course, the cycle continuing as normal.

    What we currently have is leading to a system of government which does not allow nature to take its course... which may lead to disgusting ideas such as Predator Genocide or Carniphobia.

    I rest my case. The NVP has no interest in participating in a democratic election. If they lose, they will simply attempt a hostile takeover. I call upon President Peeper to condemn this treachery, this treason!

    You fool! We need not take over!

    If we lose, we are the food-chain's top predator.

    If we win, we are still the food-chain's top predator.

    We have nothing to lose but our homes, our families, our ecosystem. Systematic power is of no interest to us. What is of interest to us is that we have a stable and healthy ecosystem, running as it should.

    And the best way to have that is for everything to be carefully maintained, without anyone undertaking massive service projects unauthorized. Or have you forgotten that others live near the wreckage? That you could be destroying their homes as we speak? There are reasons for rules. The keep this society safe. We are no longer barbarians, and we will not return to that standard.

    Barbarians? Following the same guideline in which this sea has been run and successfully maintained is barbarism? So be it. What next?

    "Prey rights"?

    The same philosophy that those Communists preach? That would result in the extinction of all predators.

    The wreckage does not belong there, and we will remove it. It has destroyed and killed hundreds of sea dwellers and thousands of homes. The last thing I am concerned about is some new fish selfishly occupying the space of a unnatural disaster. And nor will I allow it to remain. And nor will I allow the wreckage to plague our seas, for metal to kill off Coral plants and animals.

    People of Subnautica. Is this the kind of fish you want running our government? One who has no notion of rules? One who will simply do as he wishes, no matter what the rest of us think is best? The NVP are nothing but a group of super-predators. Leviathan class. A danger to every other organism is this ocean. They care not for anyone but themselves. They don't deserve this position.

    Carnophobia at work.

    I too am a carnivore.

    Then you ought to know what you imply. We are not super predators. In fact, we consist mostly OF predators and represent minority predators as well in some degree. You heard of the recent re-inclusion of Sandsharks into our fold, yes?

    Are they super-predators? We hunt the damn things!

    Which leads me to believe that their inclusion was not a peaceful one. It seems to be a forced inclusion, meant to make you seem less hostile then you really are.

    I would hope to think you were better than a conspiracy loony.

    We. Don't. Need. Systematic. Power. We want this ecosystem to prosper, for when it prospers, ALL prosper. INCLUDING us. INCLUDING prey. INCLUDING you.

    If you don't need systematic power, then why run? Why even bother? Is it because you know that we could stop you if you didn't?
  • ResolutionBlazeResolutionBlaze The Dunes Join Date: 2016-04-06 Member: 215392Members
    edited November 2016
    Ah yes, the invite appears to have expired for me. Well, here's your first question anyways: This year, the crashing of the Aurora Starship in sovereign 4546B waters has massively impacted the climate and landscape of our planet. Most candidates agree that the waters should be freed of extraneous wreckage, but there has been a lot of bluster on both sides of the isle (see what I did there :wink: ). My question for party representatives is how exactly do you propose to deal with the wreckage? What steps would you take to solve this issue with your first 100 days in office? What aspects make your plan better than the other parties' plans? What aspects make the other parties' worse?

    Members of the National Violence Party are already clearing the wreckage as we speak.

    Where is your authorization from President Peeper? If you don't have one, then this is a heinous breach of code and conduct.

    Authorization to clear out obviously hazardous technology from our seas? What has this ocean come to?

    I follow no code of conduct except the code of nature. We need to combine our efforts to rid this large pile of rubbish so we can continue to live in a productive ecosystem.

    There could be things of use in that wreckage. What if the cure to the Carar plague is in the wreckage, and you simply threw it away with no thoughts of your fellow species? And as for code, you know as well as the rest of us that a project that big can only be greenlit by the leader of the biome, of which their currently is none, or the President.

    The chances of that is astronomical, nor would any fish in this sea understand how to use such technology, nor would such a risk assume that we should leave it to plague our seas more. The Party's decision is final.

    Your party's decision goes against our laws. I plead with our President to enforce said laws, and allow this issue to be dealt with in the correct fashion. If this is allowed to continue, what next? Do you think the NVP will accept any leader but themselves? I, for one, fear that the NVP will attempt to push us into a dictatorship, and do not believe that that is how our society should be run.

    Dictatorship? If removing a threat to the ecosystem is considered dictatorship, by all means, let dictatorship rule!

    But regardless, this is an exaggeration. Our Party has always been a majority Naturalist; meaning we regard nature as the only power worthy of maintaining an ecosystem, and that governmental authority against this should be minimal. Removing the Aurora as soon as possible is what is necessary, rather than waiting for an "official" order to do so. Then we can back away and let nature take it's course, the cycle continuing as normal.

    What we currently have is leading to a system of government which does not allow nature to take its course... which may lead to disgusting ideas such as Predator Genocide or Carniphobia.

    I rest my case. The NVP has no interest in participating in a democratic election. If they lose, they will simply attempt a hostile takeover. I call upon President Peeper to condemn this treachery, this treason!

    You fool! We need not take over!

    If we lose, we are the food-chain's top predator.

    If we win, we are still the food-chain's top predator.

    We have nothing to lose but our homes, our families, our ecosystem. Systematic power is of no interest to us. What is of interest to us is that we have a stable and healthy ecosystem, running as it should.

    And the best way to have that is for everything to be carefully maintained, without anyone undertaking massive service projects unauthorized. Or have you forgotten that others live near the wreckage? That you could be destroying their homes as we speak? There are reasons for rules. The keep this society safe. We are no longer barbarians, and we will not return to that standard.

    Barbarians? Following the same guideline in which this sea has been run and successfully maintained is barbarism? So be it. What next?

    "Prey rights"?

    The same philosophy that those Communists preach? That would result in the extinction of all predators.

    The wreckage does not belong there, and we will remove it. It has destroyed and killed hundreds of sea dwellers and thousands of homes. The last thing I am concerned about is some new fish selfishly occupying the space of a unnatural disaster. And nor will I allow it to remain. And nor will I allow the wreckage to plague our seas, for metal to kill off Coral plants and animals.

    People of Subnautica. Is this the kind of fish you want running our government? One who has no notion of rules? One who will simply do as he wishes, no matter what the rest of us think is best? The NVP are nothing but a group of super-predators. Leviathan class. A danger to every other organism is this ocean. They care not for anyone but themselves. They don't deserve this position.

    Carnophobia at work.

    I too am a carnivore.

    Then you ought to know what you imply. We are not super predators. In fact, we consist mostly OF predators and represent minority predators as well in some degree. You heard of the recent re-inclusion of Sandsharks into our fold, yes?

    Are they super-predators? We hunt the damn things!

    Which leads me to believe that their inclusion was not a peaceful one. It seems to be a forced inclusion, meant to make you seem less hostile then you really are.

    I would hope to think you were better than a conspiracy loony.

    We. Don't. Need. Systematic. Power. We want this ecosystem to prosper, for when it prospers, ALL prosper. INCLUDING us. INCLUDING prey. INCLUDING you.

    If you don't need systematic power, then why run? Why even bother? Is it because you know that we could stop you if you didn't?

    Because we believe in a prosperous ecosystem, don't you?

    Why run? What kind of question is that? While we have parties talking about our ecosystem like it's some sort of... empire?
  • dealwithitdogdealwithitdog Texas Join Date: 2016-06-09 Member: 218343Members
    Ah yes, the invite appears to have expired for me. Well, here's your first question anyways: This year, the crashing of the Aurora Starship in sovereign 4546B waters has massively impacted the climate and landscape of our planet. Most candidates agree that the waters should be freed of extraneous wreckage, but there has been a lot of bluster on both sides of the isle (see what I did there :wink: ). My question for party representatives is how exactly do you propose to deal with the wreckage? What steps would you take to solve this issue with your first 100 days in office? What aspects make your plan better than the other parties' plans? What aspects make the other parties' worse?

    Members of the National Violence Party are already clearing the wreckage as we speak.

    Where is your authorization from President Peeper? If you don't have one, then this is a heinous breach of code and conduct.

    Authorization to clear out obviously hazardous technology from our seas? What has this ocean come to?

    I follow no code of conduct except the code of nature. We need to combine our efforts to rid this large pile of rubbish so we can continue to live in a productive ecosystem.

    There could be things of use in that wreckage. What if the cure to the Carar plague is in the wreckage, and you simply threw it away with no thoughts of your fellow species? And as for code, you know as well as the rest of us that a project that big can only be greenlit by the leader of the biome, of which their currently is none, or the President.

    The chances of that is astronomical, nor would any fish in this sea understand how to use such technology, nor would such a risk assume that we should leave it to plague our seas more. The Party's decision is final.

    Your party's decision goes against our laws. I plead with our President to enforce said laws, and allow this issue to be dealt with in the correct fashion. If this is allowed to continue, what next? Do you think the NVP will accept any leader but themselves? I, for one, fear that the NVP will attempt to push us into a dictatorship, and do not believe that that is how our society should be run.

    Dictatorship? If removing a threat to the ecosystem is considered dictatorship, by all means, let dictatorship rule!

    But regardless, this is an exaggeration. Our Party has always been a majority Naturalist; meaning we regard nature as the only power worthy of maintaining an ecosystem, and that governmental authority against this should be minimal. Removing the Aurora as soon as possible is what is necessary, rather than waiting for an "official" order to do so. Then we can back away and let nature take it's course, the cycle continuing as normal.

    What we currently have is leading to a system of government which does not allow nature to take its course... which may lead to disgusting ideas such as Predator Genocide or Carniphobia.

    I rest my case. The NVP has no interest in participating in a democratic election. If they lose, they will simply attempt a hostile takeover. I call upon President Peeper to condemn this treachery, this treason!

    You fool! We need not take over!

    If we lose, we are the food-chain's top predator.

    If we win, we are still the food-chain's top predator.

    We have nothing to lose but our homes, our families, our ecosystem. Systematic power is of no interest to us. What is of interest to us is that we have a stable and healthy ecosystem, running as it should.

    And the best way to have that is for everything to be carefully maintained, without anyone undertaking massive service projects unauthorized. Or have you forgotten that others live near the wreckage? That you could be destroying their homes as we speak? There are reasons for rules. The keep this society safe. We are no longer barbarians, and we will not return to that standard.

    Barbarians? Following the same guideline in which this sea has been run and successfully maintained is barbarism? So be it. What next?

    "Prey rights"?

    The same philosophy that those Communists preach? That would result in the extinction of all predators.

    The wreckage does not belong there, and we will remove it. It has destroyed and killed hundreds of sea dwellers and thousands of homes. The last thing I am concerned about is some new fish selfishly occupying the space of a unnatural disaster. And nor will I allow it to remain. And nor will I allow the wreckage to plague our seas, for metal to kill off Coral plants and animals.

    People of Subnautica. Is this the kind of fish you want running our government? One who has no notion of rules? One who will simply do as he wishes, no matter what the rest of us think is best? The NVP are nothing but a group of super-predators. Leviathan class. A danger to every other organism is this ocean. They care not for anyone but themselves. They don't deserve this position.

    Carnophobia at work.

    I too am a carnivore.

    Then you ought to know what you imply. We are not super predators. In fact, we consist mostly OF predators and represent minority predators as well in some degree. You heard of the recent re-inclusion of Sandsharks into our fold, yes?

    Are they super-predators? We hunt the damn things!

    Which leads me to believe that their inclusion was not a peaceful one. It seems to be a forced inclusion, meant to make you seem less hostile then you really are.

    I would hope to think you were better than a conspiracy loony.

    We. Don't. Need. Systematic. Power. We want this ecosystem to prosper, for when it prospers, ALL prosper. INCLUDING us. INCLUDING prey. INCLUDING you.

    If you don't need systematic power, then why run? Why even bother? Is it because you know that we could stop you if you didn't?

    Because we believe in a prosperous ecosystem, don't you?

    Why run? What kind of question is that? While we have parties talking about our ecosystem like it's some sort of... empire?

    We have a prosperous ecosystem. And will continue to, even with rules and regulations.
  • Enderguy059Enderguy059 Australia Join Date: 2015-10-15 Member: 208486Members
    Might I interject that the Greater Communist Shoal was largely started by the Biters, who are predators themselves. Your slandering comments made towards them might as well be considered Carnophobia, candidate Bonecruncher.

    (Is there a GCS representative in this argument? If not, I'd be happy to take up the role.)
  • JoeakuakuJoeakuaku USA Join Date: 2016-04-10 Member: 215614Members
    I'm gonna reschedule the discord debate for 9PM EST today. Furthermore, all representatives are requested to join early so I can allow you into the specific channels. That said, I might remove the party-specific ones - one reason being not all parties have more than one representative. Also, if people don't want to do this really, I won't.
  • ResolutionBlazeResolutionBlaze The Dunes Join Date: 2016-04-06 Member: 215392Members
    Might I interject that the Greater Communist Shoal was largely started by the Biters, who are predators themselves. Your slandering comments made towards them might as well be considered Carnophobia, candidate Bonecruncher.

    (Is there a GCS representative in this argument? If not, I'd be happy to take up the role.)

    They are carnivores that hunt everything... including other predators. But they are a low tier predator... so no wonder they are envious of the NVP. We would be happy to include them, but they have chosen instead the path of deception.
  • subnauticambriansubnauticambrian U.S. Join Date: 2016-01-19 Member: 211679Members
    edited November 2016
    Joeakuaku wrote: »
    I'm gonna reschedule the discord debate for 9PM EST today. Furthermore, all representatives are requested to join early so I can allow you into the specific channels. That said, I might remove the party-specific ones - one reason being not all parties have more than one representative. Also, if people don't want to do this really, I won't.

    I think people can just join whenever. It look like we've got some England time zones, US times zones, and whatever else. It'll be considered an ongoing debate, with periodically updated questions. :smile:
  • ResolutionBlazeResolutionBlaze The Dunes Join Date: 2016-04-06 Member: 215392Members
    Joeakuaku wrote: »
    I'm gonna reschedule the discord debate for 9PM EST today. Furthermore, all representatives are requested to join early so I can allow you into the specific channels. That said, I might remove the party-specific ones - one reason being not all parties have more than one representative. Also, if people don't want to do this really, I won't.

    I think people can just join whenever. It look like we've got some England time zones, US times zones, and whatever else. It'll be considered an ongoing debate, with periodically updated questions. :smile:

    Will it be recorded somehow? Then we can share the video on here.
  • subnauticambriansubnauticambrian U.S. Join Date: 2016-01-19 Member: 211679Members
    Joeakuaku wrote: »
    I'm gonna reschedule the discord debate for 9PM EST today. Furthermore, all representatives are requested to join early so I can allow you into the specific channels. That said, I might remove the party-specific ones - one reason being not all parties have more than one representative. Also, if people don't want to do this really, I won't.

    I think people can just join whenever. It look like we've got some England time zones, US times zones, and whatever else. It'll be considered an ongoing debate, with periodically updated questions. :smile:

    Will it be recorded somehow? Then we can share the video on here.

    Oh yeah true....
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