"Safe" shallows?
Alrekr_Ironhand
New Hampshire, US Join Date: 2016-03-22 Member: 214677Members
New Hampshire, US Join Date: 2016-03-22 Member: 214677Members
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It's apparently a BUG...,
They are aware and working on it.
My foresight came true!!!!
Devs, you should know, we love this game and we're excited for new content; but when there is a bug like this that is really massively ruining QoL, it's hard to see past it. We're a massive crowd of beta testers, and a free resource, but it's hard to test new features when the spawn area is lethal and/or so demoralising that we quit for another month. We'd really appreciate your attention on things like the unsafe shallows, and the ten-wrecks-in-one issue, so that we can focus on actually playing the game and see your new content
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say those particular bugs are humdingers. The devs do patch a lot of bugs, all the time. If they don't, well, they're probably stumped or it's going to involve some very in-depth tracing to figure the bugs out. Remember the bug that erased your Cyclops from your saved game on save (only sometimes), with everything in it? Yeah that was a thing for a month or two. Bugs can be a nightmare to track down and fix, I want to say I hear Skyrim had a memory leak for like 6 months before the bug responsible was found.
I will make a great biome to stop the filthy Leviathans from treading on our safety!
I do appreciate the pain of a monster bug - I'm a software developer myself, but not in gaming - so I'm not trying to make light of the work. But... these *will* need fixing before the game can be considered finished. Things like the multiple wrecks killing performance and the 10-hour-corruption issue, are problematic even for experienced players, while newbies who get confronted with a reaper outside their base are quite possibly just abandoning the game. I suspect it's only the small minority of us who find our way to forums and reddit and find things like the cache-clearing fix.
TBQH, it's starting to give Subnautica a bad rep. There's at least a couple of fairly high profile youtubers who've voiced the opinion that the gameplay is fine but the software is so broken that they can't continue their series. People understand early access, and we want to be forgiving, but some of these have dragged on for months, and it can't possibly be helping future or current sales. I can't even recommend it to my friends at this time because it's so aggravating
Genuinely, this is a concern. I want Subnautica to do well, to have a big and active community, and one day have expansions, DLCs, and sequels. I'm increasingly worried that the dev team are so determined to deliver new content month on month that they'll finally get to declaring it "feature complete" and find that nobody's listening any more... IMHO, we need a stability pass very badly, to get the feeling away from being a fight against the software bugs and on to being a fight against the beautiful, immersive, deadly environment the game presents
As bad as you make it sound, I've been playing since last August (when things really were a bit frustrating) and I've yet to find the game as horribly UNplayable as you describe above.
Sure there's been a few glitches that many have moaned about, but just like with any game STILL IN DEVELOPMENT, that's a given and one has to be patient.
Also, all those folks who are doing Youtubes about this game, need to do a big fat preface to their videos with the above fact...
THIS GAME IS STILL IN BETA.
There's even a big notice when you first load up the game from the developers, which is essentially a warning that it may not work correctly at times.
Anybody who doesn't understand this, perhaps shouldn't be buying and playing BETA games.
I would define the crashes around the 10 hour mark to be an unplayable game... I am aware I can reset the cache, I have done so previously - what about the large proportion of players who don't find their way to the forums? They will not come back, and they will tell their friends not to buy it. There is a literal game breaker that has existed for months, it's a total show stopper, it absolutely must be fixed before the game can be considered 1.0... so why not focus on it?
Also, "still in beta" - it's due to launch in May, and it's been available for over 2 years. By now, you'd expect the software to at least run reliably. That it doesn't is... concerning.
And no, I'm not playing it. Briefly dabbled last month for the first time since autumn, gave up when my base was inaccessible underneath a reefback/reaper duet. This is my point about failing to harness the early access crowd as testers. I won't be the only person who's no longer interested in being part of beta.
Obviously, by your own admission, you don't have the patience for a BETA game.
That's OK, but don't assume that everyone else doesn't either.
Folks who play STEAM Early Preview games are warned in just about all of them, that the games are in development and may not work at times.
It's a crap-shoot and your paying money to Help Get The Game Finished, not to guarantee that it will be perfectly playable during it's development stages.
BTW:
Any "Friend" who tells their buddies not to play a BETA GAME in the Future, because it's not working Now in its UNFINISHED form, should get laughed at and pretty much ignored.
And the listed May release date for Subnautica is A GOAL, It's not set in stone at this point.
As far as the "software running reliably", for the last two updates the game a been very playable and reliable for me.
Not necessarily. Unknown Worlds is adding content first and fixing bugs later. As there's still content to be added you shouldn't expect bug fixing to be happening yet. Believe me, there have been plenty of games that have had less time to fix bugs more severe than what Subnautica suffers from.
I'm torn between posting a sarcastic comment like "Oh really? Gee, I thought the developers were gonna keep all the bugs in! Give Bethesda a run for their money in terms of a buggy release!" and posting that Nick Cage reaction image of "YOU DON'T SAY?!"
Like, come on, have some basic respect for the Devs. I think you can safely assume that they realize "Oh, we need to fix that before we release".
Dont forget the giant Wall that needs to be built around the shallows to prevent those illegal Reaperz 'n Crabsquids to come in and sap those poor Peeper's jobs!
In the shallows, where you want your buddy:
Someone correct me if that code is incorrect, I didn't double-check it, but I believe it's correct.
Perhaps you should double check before posting advice to ensure correct advice is given. And, sorry, got to say it: "Just saying"
How the fudge do you do this it seem like some secret thing that everyone knows but is not written down.
robotfly, as 0x6A7232 says, look at the first line in his signature. It contains a link that tells you how to do this.
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http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Debug_Console_Commands#General
http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Spawnable_items
1) I was correct.
2) I have now spawned 100 reaper leviathans to infest your core game files for making me look that up.
NOES!!!!!! I'm telling the devs and they will come and smash you into the middle of next week
Now now, lets not get too hasty. I didn't specifically say I wanted one there right this instant!
>_> <_<
Somewhere between the Aurora and Lifepod 5 sound good?
No you want spawn reaperleviathan 100 one of them will be where you want eventually.
But usually what I do to deal with them is I turn on the invisibility cheat and set damage to 1000 just to kill them
Just a reminder. A feature incomplete game should be considered in alpha state. I expect this game to go beta after April and consider it to be still alpha at this time. Although it's quite stable for an alpha so far. But the devs will probably need about 2-3 months of beta to fix most things. At least their roadmap reflects the time to polish things and most features are now in the game.