"Seek fluid intake."

nafeasonto

I am sorry, but the way your guy goes through water is waaay to fast. I am spending half of the salt in the biomes on water. The filtration machine, takes way to long to even make one bottle of water as well.

The food consumption is perfect, water is a little ridiculous.

I can understand when you exert yourself when swimming, but if you are just inside the cyclops or seamouth, no reason it needs to go down that fast.

NuclearTesting

Water is fine, my strategy is to spend about three to five minutes every two to three in-game days to stockpile bladderfish and convert them all into water.

StormShocker

I agree the water meter does go down pretty quick. When ever I play on going on a long big trip, say to the lava biome or lost river, I spend at least 15-30 minutes making sure I have enough water. It’s a little insane

SnailsAttack

Yes, maybe water should decrease 25% faster than food instead of 50%. Or there should be more/better ways to get water in the earlygame.

Jarin

They doubled the output of the purified water recipe. That basically solved all my water problems.

gamer1000k

For me, the biggest issue is the huge disparity between how fast the player interacts with the environment (real time) and the survival needs time scale. Even taking in the way too fast day/night cycle, the player will be starving to death after not eating for a day.

Water should go down faster than food, but both meters go down far, far too quickly. Even if you have farms/water purifiers/etc set up, the game still annoys you every few minutes with survival needs.

Also, the water purifier is ridiculous. For some reason, the fabricator can magically make fish safe to eat, but it can't do something as simple as purify water without needing extra ingredients, or even make a basic hand-operated reverse osmosis filter?!? IMHO, the devs desperately needed something that used a lot of power to justify things like the nuclear reactor (which has its own issues of burning through fuel far, far too quickly), and shoehorned the water purifier into this role even though it doesn't really make any sense.

Subnautica is far from the only game that does this (player needs to eat/drink all the time to add "drama" to the game), but it's an extremely annoying trope in the survival genre that needs to die. For me, it distracts too much from the other parts of the game. At least we have freedom mode, but that's not an ideal solution either since I take satisfaction from setting up a self-sustaining base and freedom mode effectively defeats the purpose of a lot of in-game items and equipment.

What I would like to see someone do in a survival game is to have a slower day/night cycle and slower food and water consumption. Make the game more about long-term planning to get a reliable food/water source set up instead of having magic fast growing plants to compensate for how frequently the player needs to eat/drink.

Anyways, apologies for my ranting. I really hope that the devs can tweak this before release, and if not, that we'll get some decent mods that let us tweak the survival values ourselves.

saltyspecula

Late game, you should have your stillsuit which more or less fixes your water problem. Then occassionally, go back to base, pull out two bottles from your water filtration unit, use the salt to cure 2 reginalds from your alien containement unit where they breed to replace the ones you take and you don't have to worry about it. Or better yet, put an indoor grow bed in your Cyclops, fill it with marblemelons and use your stillsuit.

NuclearTesting

"SEEK FLUID INTAKE"
"SSEEEKK FFLLUUIIDD IINNTTAAKKEE"
"SSSSEEEEEEKKKK FFFFLLLLUUUUIIIIDDDD IIIINNNNTTTTAAAAKKKKEEEE"
the dehydration has gotten to me

Jacke

saltyspecula wrote: »

Or better yet, put an indoor grow bed in your Cyclops, fill it with marblemelons and use your stillsuit.

Takes a small amount of more Titanium, but I find Plant Pots are better for Marblemelons; much more flexible in how they can be placed.

Vahal

yup, I have 6 plants pots filled with 4 melons. I eat 3, I turn one in seeds, plant them, repeat... No more food/water issue. Before I used bulbo tree samples but it was nerfed by the last update.
I even don't use the water done by the purifier. I sometime brought one bottle with me when I go far away from my Cyclops with my Seamoth/Prawn but most of the time I come back to her before because my backpack and storage are full of stuff

garath

It really boggles my mind every time someone posts saying the food and/or water goes down too quickly. On the first day or so, it is something you think about. But after that, it hardly seems noticeable.

Duff_McDuggin

I do think the water filtration machine needs to be a bit more efficient. It takes far too long to filter water. Running enough machines for them to be a viable water source, takes a fair amount of power to make happen. Im not looking for easy water. Just for the machines to be a bit faster, or be balanced better in some way. Maybe 1.0 will bring some changes to that.

0x6A7232

Duff_McDuggin wrote: »

I do think the water filtration machine needs to be a bit more efficient. It takes far too long to filter water. Running enough machines for them to be a viable water source, takes a fair amount of power to make happen. Im not looking for easy water. Just for the machines to be a bit faster, or be balanced better in some way. Maybe 1.0 will bring some changes to that.

If you think you need more water for the amount of time the Filtration machine takes, then combine what it makes with Coral Tube Samples.

NuclearTesting

Speaking of water filtration, where the heck is aero jell?

Gourmet_Guy

You can always do a sweep of the Aurora, there are tons of bottles in there, especially in the cafe closet.

0x6A7232

NuclearTesting wrote: »

Speaking of water filtration, where the heck is aero jell?

You have to pick up

Gel Sacks

to unlock the blueprint.

GameSage

I offset the way things tend to go by setting up 4 filtration machines to build a massive supply of salt. And with 4 machines i get salt fast enough that I can use half the salt for preserving food, and the other half for making +30 water. However, because one bleach makes 2 water, i cram more into my cyclops (i use the default stores for food/water but mostly water since my cyclops has an on board marble melon farm) by storing the bleach. This way when i return from ore gathering, i drink one thing of bleach converted into 2x+30 waters or if i'm near dying of thirst two of the +50.

As for food, there are a couple biomes where getting back to your sub in a hurry with the prawn is impractical. sure it may be 30 meters away on the other side of a rock wall, but who knows how many winding tunnels and for how long you'll have to walk before you get around the wall. And I don't like having to stop a mining trip short to go back and cram a marble melon smoothie. So i keep a "farm" of sorts at my base and outposts loaded with Reginalds. Leave two in there and they are self replenishing.

P.S. Now i want a marble melon smoothie.

Vahal

I just eat some fishes time to time because, you know food diversity is key of healthy condition...
Really, food/water is not an issue even if they decrease quite fast. you can make water with bladderfishes, you can find easily tons of salt even before water purifier (I filled EIGHT boxes with salt just by picking it on the ground) and of course you have the easy peasy Melon you find on the floating island. Just hit one with the knife, get some seeds and voilà, you now have infinite food/water source.
Plant four seeds, wait, eat 2 melons, turn the 2 remaining as seeds, wait, do the same until you have 6 plant pots filled. And now you can eat 3 melons, turn the fourth into seeds, plant them, eat other melons when you need and so on... Infinite food/water. And if you want different food, you have chinese potatoes or hunt for fishes. I don't even use nutrient blocks (would be nice to be able to make them even if the amount of food needed is enormous, yiou know just to have some tech food instead salted stuff.)