Teamwork, Fellas...

Xpander

<div class="IPBDescription">what happened to it?</div> I've been noticing that a lot of aliens no longer use any team work.

For instance, I just came off of a game in Hera where we fought our way into the third hive (archiving). We take it, hive goes up, all is well. Onos and fades and lerks all bombarding their base and taking them out elsewhere as well. Then we see Data core being sieged, turns out they've built a siege in the vent. With some hard work, we take it out, but we lose the hive in the process. No problem, I think...I go gorge...only one, and I save and build up hive. I ask people to stop kidding around (we were having our laughs attacking them). Then we notice that they're attacking archiving and ventilation sporadically. No problem, we should be able to hold them off, so I go and take the holoroom res nozzles and let people know. Well, with some fierce fighting, we lose archiving, but Data is now up.

This is where it all goes dead...the marines begin attacking, and we take it hard. It was strange because I don't see any rocket or claw kills. Then I realized that we had no fades. I ask people if their res flow is low (having just built two), why isn't anyone turning fade...no one answers. One of my teammates calls for help, I can't make it cuz I'm a gorge, but no one else answers. I eventually go fade myself and take out a good chunk of their siege base outside archiving with no one to help me. Soon enough we lose ventilation systems too...all in the meanwhile no one is making so much as a peep. I got fed up after losing ventilation...during all this time of hive exchanges, we've had all of 3-4 people go fade (not at the same time) on a team of 9.

This lack of communication is one of the biggest reasons why I see so many alien lossses lately...that and massive phase gate rushes. I remember right before and during 1.03 came out, team work was nice and coordinated for the aliens. Lots of chatter, lots of communications. Now there's zero. Does anyone else notice this trend?

MrBen

People say communication is not important as its really about individual abilities and hive sight makes it easy to see where people are if you know the way roiund. But on a game on ns_tanith 5 out of about 9 had mics and we where using it and it was amazing. Co ordinated skulk rushes, easy to tell team where backup was needed, for instance i'm in reactor hiding and there about 3 ha guys there, no chance for one skulk make a quick call and 2 fades come along and clean house.

It allowed for some great manuevers and also just made it that much easy. Gorge we need a res point here. No stopping to type no being a sitting duck you can secure it and move on and not have to stop.

In the end we totally mopped up house just by being able to communciate so well between ourselves, so easy to keep people up to date with the coming and goings, somethng i love doing, just spying and parasiting people.

SoulSkorpion

Well, speaking for myself I've never had any problems with teamwork. There's been FAR more communication and coordination happening in NS than any other game (for me, at least). I can't say I agree that teamplay is declining in NS.

Logo

I've noticed a similar trend too. My guess is it comes from the way NS have evolved.
Starting (1.00) the aliens were underpowered so they had to pull together thus most alien players were communicating and talking back and forth.

Now that 1.03 has come along with the balanced aliens and marines the aliens were slaughtering most marines (pubs) so marines have done what the aliens did, learn to communicate and use teamwork. However in this sudden lack of challenge I think most aliens have forgotten they need to be a team.

I've noticed this too espically early game where I can never seem to find any of the other 7 skulks doing anything as I get shot up by the 4 advancing marines.

MonsieurEvil

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Nupi

I have seen probably one game *only* where the whole alien team was just ...rushing and dieing, i guess it was because the players were forced to join as alien so they didnt care much <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->.

But i have played excellent games, lots of chatter the old fashion way..because at least i dont have a micset and i probably will never have.
I'm a fast typist <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->. Even if nobody else isnt talking very much, i try to inform whats going on & where. Im pleased how well aliens have played games in a team though.

I wish NS would have %L -support in the text messages..so we could bind map specific sayings, like for ns_hera

"Marines sighted at %L" - > "Marines sighted at Hive location - Archiving"


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