Please Make The Inability To Join The Other Team A

JRockJRock Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10032Members
edited December 2002 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">SERVER-SIDE OPTION. Read on... --></div> It's frustrating on non-pub servers that we have to deal with things put in the mod solely for pub server issues.

The least you can do is make them server-side options.

The primary one that comes to mind is the "you've already seen the other team" issue. We don't have players on our servers jumping in the CC, spending all the RCs, F4ing and going Kharaa. That might very well be a pub server issue, but please make this bit of code a server-side option just like you properly did for the auto-concession code.

Thank you.


ps - Same goes for the "RCs no longer go back to pool for Kharaa when an alien player leaves". Again, make it a server-side OPTION please. Some of us don't have issues with people exploiting, but when a gorge leaves the game for a legit reason it'd be nice to not have his RCs disappear. The Marines don't have to deal with this! <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • i_CWolf_uk_CLi_CWolf_uk_CL Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11172Members
    Could have a point here...

    Especially when a player comes into marine side, scouts all the area out. Gets HA|HMG and then goes to Aliens.
    Tells them all the weak points and aliens win.

    Kinda frustraiting slightly.
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  • reborebo Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2734Members
    The point is on well adminned servers that doesnt happen anyway, thats why it should be server side only.
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  • tseepratseepra Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10530Members
    I thought that was fixed in 1.03 that you can't join the marine side if you were alien and viceversa.... isn't it?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • reborebo Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2734Members
    Thats the point, on well adminned server you want that turned off so people are free to change teams and even up teams etc.
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  • JRockJRock Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10032Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--rebo+Dec 23 2002, 09:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rebo @ Dec 23 2002, 09:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The point is on well adminned servers that doesnt happen anyway, thats why it should be server side only.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, thank you for being one of the (sadly) few people here who can read what I wrote.
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  • Lt_PredatorJ_LGSOLt_PredatorJ_LGSO Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10851Members
    I read , understood , and fully agree!!
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  • JRockJRock Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10032Members
    Options are always the best thing - options satisfy the greatest number of players possible - by giving the server operator choices, you allow him more ability to customize his server to his players' wants/needs.

    By allowing the server to choose whether or not players can switch teams you allow for pub servers to continue things the way they are but also allow non-pub servers to disable that bit of code so we can more easily balance teams instead of enabling autobalance or having players go through loading the game again with "/retry".

    By allowing the server to choose whether or not RCs go back into the pool when a Kharaa leaves, you allow server ops to choose whichever is appropriate for their server.
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  • CatgirlCatgirl Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5741Members
    Though any Marine who leaves while wearing Heavy Armour, and carrying an HMG and Welder does have all his gear lost...
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  • AaronAaron vroom vroom der party startah Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7020Members
    Yes, giving the admins more options creates a better game for the audience while decreasing the whining and flaming about certain features. I would also like the no-hive-auto-death to be an option also...I'm sure many admins would turn this off, or set it to a longer timeout or something. Maybe in 1.1...
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  • JRockJRock Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10032Members
    Yeah hopefully, if not in 1.04. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • KatsuroKatsuro Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4809Members
    edited December 2002
    So when a person goes the ready room their resourses disappear? Thats bad, now we can have a "gorge destroying team resourses" exploit. Gorge saves up, hits F4, detonates 70 or 100 res from the team. Great! Just **obscenity** Great!

    EX:
    Ima_Llama: Hey guys Ill be gorge and save up for the hive.
    Teammate: Ok
    /Ima_Llama saves 80 res.
    Teammate: Wheres that hive?
    /Ima_Llama hits f4, then rejoins.
    Ima_Llama: Hahahahahaha!
    /Aliens team loses....

    See what I mean? As A.A. Milne put it, "Think of all the possibilities, Piglet, before you settle down to enjoy yourself.
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  • reborebo Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2734Members
    Whenever this alien RP situation comes up gonna pimp this idea:: A tempory and virtual Resource tower that holds all alien RP from aliens leaving the game, it then is drip fed back into the distribution pot. This prevents both exploits.
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  • JRockJRock Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10032Members
    Or you could just do what i said and allow servers the option to choose which way they want it instead of forcing this on everyone.
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  • LucidLucid Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10534Members, Constellation
    this should be moved to the ideas and suggestions forum
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  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    I have a idea... to prevent that whole resource thing, have the resources return to the Kharra only when the player joins another team or goes to observe (server side option of course <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )
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  • ShuflYShuflY Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8760Members
    edited December 2002
    Well, I think the current system is not effective against what it is trying to prevent. Typing "retry" in the console to reconnect to a server so you can switch teams isn't much harder than pressing 'F4' to switch teams. I say make it like how it used to be, where you could just join any side, or make it tougher, so that reconnecting to a server will not let you switch teams either.

    Right now, the system doesn't work, and it just annoys people, rather than preventing them from teamswitching.
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  • AaronAaron vroom vroom der party startah Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7020Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Katsuro+Dec 23 2002, 08:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Katsuro @ Dec 23 2002, 08:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->See what I mean? As A.A. Milne put it, "Think of all the possibilities, Piglet, before you settle down to enjoy yourself.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, but didn't A. A. Milne also say:

    "If you steal my honey I will beat you into a coma and ban your **obscenity**."
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