Numbers Game
Amante
Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6528Members
Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6528Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Why marines are screwed . . .</div> One of the many problems effecting Marines right now, and a big one . . .
The Khaara are supposed to be superior to marines, right? Supposedly one skulk is equal to two LMG marines, etc, and I tend to agree. So why isn't this sort of thing taken into account? I was just playing on a server and that odds were at usual. Khaara had 9, we had 8. You count commander, that's more like 7. So it's 9 on 7, they've got the massively superior fades, and we're just now getting HMGs. So in other words, we're not just screwed, we've been screwed from the get-go.
Please, devs. At the <b>least</b>, change it so that the commander doesn't count towards team balance. That'd be a nice start.
The Khaara are supposed to be superior to marines, right? Supposedly one skulk is equal to two LMG marines, etc, and I tend to agree. So why isn't this sort of thing taken into account? I was just playing on a server and that odds were at usual. Khaara had 9, we had 8. You count commander, that's more like 7. So it's 9 on 7, they've got the massively superior fades, and we're just now getting HMGs. So in other words, we're not just screwed, we've been screwed from the get-go.
Please, devs. At the <b>least</b>, change it so that the commander doesn't count towards team balance. That'd be a nice start.
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I mean that a vanilla gorge isn't worth "Kharaa" against a vanilla marine. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
"There were nine of them, you retard! What were you going to do with the last three, laugh them to death? Funny man?" <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'm glad to see my linguistic discoveries are being used to good effect! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
realli? kinda depends on ur marine skillz doesnt it? on certain servers its more like 2 skulks = 1 lmg marine...depends on where u are
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So it's 9 on 7, they've got the massively superior fades, and we're just now getting HMGs.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
welll.....massively superior if u're still base marines.... normalli I get my guyz HAs within 5 minutes of the enemies getting fades....then i move on to HMG(IMHO, non-HA marines + HMG= often a waste when VS fades).... the HAs let the marines survive long enough against the onslaught of the Fades to get to HMG....then the game tends to even out
I mean that a vanilla gorge isn't worth "Kharaa" against a vanilla marine. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
"There were nine of them, you retard! What were you going to do with the last three, laugh them to death? Funny man?" <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1.)well webbing their exit is the final phase of the plan. first you take corridor by corridor webbing the entrance and putting up OC?s. You slowly push them back to their base.
2.) A webbed vanilla marine is a dead vanilla marine. No matter how much vanilla he is. :-)
3.)If there is a 9vs1 situation your are supposed to die. I can be onos and would die against 9 hmgs so this is not a valid point. the trick is to never come in the situation you have to face 9 guys at once. (9 marines are a damn good reason to make a temporary retreat)
PS: No need to call people retards simply because they have a different opinion/style to play.
If you feel you would be better off with another marine out playing, by all means go without a commander. No? Well, maybe 7 marines + 1 commander is better than 8 marines then.
As to aliens being better than marines ... that depends. Hive-1 aliens are no match for skilled marines, unless they manage to ambush the marine. Once motion tracking makes that all but impossible, I expect 2-3 skulks to die for every marine. #include <std/motion_tracking_rant.h>
Hive two aliens are a match or more than a match for vanilla marines though. Webbing makes the gorge a valuable offensive unit, while leap allows skulks to close the distance on marines. Fades and lerks are far better than vanilla marines (duh!) and a match for HA/HMG marines.
GYAH!
Even in combat, the commander can prove useful by giving his troops well-needed health and ammo. Dropping a medkit on a marine heals him much faster than any healing ability that the Kharaa have.
I mean that a vanilla gorge isn't worth "Kharaa" against a vanilla marine. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
"There were nine of them, you retard! What were you going to do with the last three, laugh them to death? Funny man?" <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1.)well webbing their exit is the final phase of the plan. first you take corridor by corridor webbing the entrance and putting up OC?s. You slowly push them back to their base.
2.) A webbed vanilla marine is a dead vanilla marine. No matter how much vanilla he is. :-)
3.)If there is a 9vs1 situation your are supposed to die. I can be onos and would die against 9 hmgs so this is not a valid point. the trick is to never come in the situation you have to face 9 guys at once. (9 marines are a damn good reason to make a temporary retreat)
PS: No need to call people retards simply because they have a different opinion/style to play.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1) Vanilla means "un-upgraded".
2) Read #1.
3) I was quoting "Boondock Saints".