Re-designing Of The Fade...

DeadmanDeadman Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10415Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Just read : )</div> In Order for this to go throught it will require, Webspace, Interested of the NS comunity and the NS Dev team as judges for this Compo.

When you look at the things that all the aliens have in common, fades are the Odd ones out having no real place in the Karaal Evolution.

All the aliens Exsept Fades have:
4 LEGS
All Projectiles come from there Mouths

And if you compaire the karaal's Evolution to what the Evolutinists Beleave in you will notice that:
Man evolved from Ape/monkey
We and them have Several Things in common
2 legs
2 arms
General Shape.

So from that the new Fade should have:
4 legs
Any Projectile Should be inside the Mouth [parasite/spit/spikes/umbura/spores/webs][i know paralise isnt the same but it should be <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->]
Should Be in a Size between the Onos and the Gorg [lurk should probly be Bigger 2 but oh well : )]

When thinking about the Acctual Look of your New Fade you should have a look at the other aliens and the patterns ect ect that they have.

Please Show your Interest
Also Notice that the Fades Abilitys Should be Re-done as a new design Obvously means new features.

This Also Is a Balancer and a exscuse to get all the people who say Fades need Nurfing to State there Ideas without Whinging : )
Please reply Friendly Replys Only if you want nothign to do with redesigning the fade then keep it that way and dont replay <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

All People who are willingto partisipate please say so because this will not go throught without the NS Comunity's Approval
Please Nptice that i AM NOT a NS Dev team member and the NS Dev team HAVE NOT autharised this, so if a Dev meaber reads this and deams it Not Possible then please say so
The Public Opinion Is a decider in this so the more people show interest the more likley the Dev team will agree.
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  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    Everyones Different.
  • DeadmanDeadman Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10415Members
    edited January 2003
    Correct and that is why its a compo so alot of people from the NS community Make an effort and Submit designs for a new fade and not just 1 person.
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    why....they arent gonna change the fade design...its a game...the fade looks awesome...leave the fade....
    dont touch the fade....
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    Cant touch this, fade model.
  • DeadmanDeadman Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10415Members
    Can we get a real reson for that?
    or this a Blunt objection to a perfictly sane plan?
  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    Why would we need a new fade? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DeadmanDeadman Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10415Members
    If you acctuly read my post instead of just replying you wouldent need to ask that : )
  • CommandoCommando Join Date: 2002-05-22 Member: 657Members, NS1 Playtester
    It's a game, a GAME! For christs sake people, get a grip!
  • Nm3-Col_EcLiPsENm3-Col_EcLiPsE Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8634Members
    erm the lurk has 2 legs and 2 wings if i remember propley.

    btw its a game..
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    As far as I know about the backstory, all aliens were evolving seperately until the bacterium took over. This explains their general equals (like their mammalian look and their high territoriality), but still leaves enough place for differences.
  • DeadmanDeadman Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10415Members
    that post commando who was it focused at?
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    i suppose...

    because:

    the fade is awesome looking anyway.

    the dev team arent going to change the design, so your not going to win a prize.

    i suspect most of fades "redesigns" will most probably look like something out of AVP


    happy? no?

    ...good
  • DeadmanDeadman Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10415Members
    Im not after a Prize im trying to make the Mod i love better the only way i know how : )
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    edited January 2003
    <span style='color:blue'>Be nice.</span>
  • DeadmanDeadman Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10415Members
    wow thanks Norm that made my day
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    a picture can say a thousand words
  • CommandoCommando Join Date: 2002-05-22 Member: 657Members, NS1 Playtester
    My post was focused at you.

    This is a game. It is a work of art. Art is not constrained by reality and does not have to make sense. Striving for as much realism as possible will only restrict creativity.
  • DeadmanDeadman Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10415Members
    Acctuly it said
    "trash your thread"
    thats 3 words
  • ZdroneZdrone Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3914Members, Constellation
    Allright. The dev team needs to quit working on the 1.04 server and 1.1 client patch. Ignore all server utilization and team balancing issues.

    The fade has 2 legs.

    *hangs head in shame*

    Going by the logic of the original post, however, we can take the evolutionary scale back a bit more (if your a follower) and we find our friend the amoeba/virus.
    Tiny, cute, smooshy.
    Wait! He has no arms or legs.
    *brain fizzles and pops*
    Cannot fathom the ramifications of this discovery!

    Of course, whos to say that the aliens are not past us in the evolutionary ladder, and that in millions of years, we wont be on 4 legs?
    Huh?
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited January 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->All the aliens Exsept Fades have:
    4 LEGS
    All Projectiles come from there Mouths<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I wouldn't say that the lerks spikers on the wings are legs...
    Actually, only the GORGE has projectiles coming out of his mouth.
    Parasite- comes from skulks nose, not mouth
    Spike- comes from spikers on wings of lerk
    Umbra+Spore- Comes from same place, wings on lerk, but isn't spikes
    Paralyse- Shouldn't really be a projectile, but now it is so... It comes from the "whip" things that makes it look like the onos has rasta hair when it jumps.
    General shape is not discussable...

    Whee, when I hit the add reply button there were 2 posts, when its loaded up this reply page there are 8 more

    EDIT: Oh, and Nemesis Zero is right.
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Deadman+Jan 4 2003, 10:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Deadman @ Jan 4 2003, 10:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Acctuly it said
    "trash your thread"
    thats 3 words<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ah, my picture got through to your teeny brain.
  • DeadmanDeadman Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10415Members
    So you are saying that Diablo2 and Dungeon Seige are "art"?
    and other crap games are "art"
    only way things can get better is throught the Opinion of the Public and Ideas of Others
    wecome to the design Process
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    edited January 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->

    =Zdrone,Jan 4 2003, 10:19 PM]Allright.  The dev team needs to quit working on the 1.04 server and 1.1 client patch.  Ignore all server utilization and team balancing issues.

    The fade has 2 legs.

    *hangs head in shame*

    Going by the logic of the original post, however, we can take the evolutionary scale back a bit more (if your a follower) and we find our friend the amoeba/virus.  
    Tiny, cute, smooshy.
    Wait!  He has no arms or legs.
    *brain fizzles and pops*
    Cannot fathom the ramifications of this discovery!

    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    ROFLMFAO

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Of course, whos to say that the aliens are not past us in the evolutionary ladder, and that in millions of years, we wont be on 4 legs?
    Huh?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    sorta like Planet of the apes then....humans evolve from man...2000 years later, er....man decides to evolve back into monkey....
  • DeadmanDeadman Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10415Members
    Ok then im going to have to Use Logic here....
    Lerks Have 4 LEGS
    and have 2 small glands on its mouth
    which if you acctuly look closely are where the spikes come from
    Want to try Flapping your wings and aiming spikes which come from your flapping Wings at the same time?
    Please also nbotice that Althought Yes Evolution taken back a very long way shows that the Karaal are Hardly starting out as 1 celled organisums : )
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Just because you don't consider them to be such, they can very well still be art.
    I've seen a guy take a sheeps innards, put them around his balls, and call it art (I crap you not - the photos can be seen in the Museum for Modern Art in Vienna). Compared to this, I'd call Diablo a pretty safe bet.
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Deadman+Jan 4 2003, 10:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Deadman @ Jan 4 2003, 10:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ok then im going to have to Use Logic here....
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    bout time....in ten minutes your brain may consider "Common sense".....
  • DeadmanDeadman Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10415Members
    I am a game designer what i do is art i am mearly saying that Diablo2 [direct copy of the first 1] and Dungeon seige[copy of Diablo 2] are not art rather Ripoff's requireing no real Creative Design.
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    awww....NEMESIS...whyd you remove my picture.....you spoilt my day now...
  • pielemuispielemuis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 72Members, NS1 Playtester
    It's not like each alien level is an evolved version of the level before it. you don't HAVE to go skulk -> gorge->lerk ->fade->Onos. So i don't see why the fade or onos or whatever should look more like a lerk/gorge/skulk. And yeah it's just a game and NS isn't striving for realism s:]
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited January 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Deadman+Jan 5 2003, 03:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Deadman @ Jan 5 2003, 03:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I am a game designer what i do is art i am mearly saying that Diablo2 [direct copy of the first 1] and Dungeon seige[copy of Diablo 2] are not art rather Ripoff's requireing no real Creative Design.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Using that kind of logic, the Godfather movies can't be art (they only extended each other), nor could <i>any</i> cycle of paintings be art, nor could the Lord of the Rings (or at least its two 'sequels') be art.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->awww....NEMESIS...whyd you remove my picture.....you spoilt my day now... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Read your sig. Next. ;p
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