Crosshairs

TeoHTeoH Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11640Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Filth</div> As most of you are aware, this exploit has been carried over from regular half-life and so far, has yet to be fixed in Natural Selection. I'd like to know when exactly this blatent cheating is going to be dealt with.

The exploitation of the aiming-sight fixed in the center of your screen simply has to stop, its just not realistic to have a crosshair fixed in the middle of your vision. Do i see a translucent shape hanging between my eyes when i walk around spaceships firing sub-machine guns at aliens in <b>real life?</b> NO!

Not only is it a blatent exploit, extremely unrealistic and detrimental to the atmosphere of the game, its also UNBALANCED. It makes it far too easy for marines to aim and fire at skulks - the same skulks that have to try and bite the marines without the aid of a crosshair at all! This game is supposed to be about TEAMPLAY, a single marine shouldn't just be able to aim at a skulk in a coridoor and kill it. Crosshairs promote rambos who can just run around the map aiming and firing at skulks, who are severely dissadvantaged because all the marines have to do is place the crosshair over the skulk and fire, its practically an aimbot.

Give me 1 good reason why marines <b>need</b> a crosshair. No tactical advantage comes from it, it certainly doesn't promote strategy, aiming should be done by looking down the barrel of your gun. If you want to aim, you should have to press a key that makes you stand still in a focussed position and raise the gun barrel up to your eye. The people defending this stupid looking, floating exploit are simply try to justify their ridiculous cheating, which makes it much easier to aim than its <b>supposed to be</b>. Disgusting.

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  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    1 good reason: it's more enjoyable with a crosshair

    this isn't about realism
  • DefconDefcon Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9402Members
    Because then, you can simply stick a bit of bluetack / temp marker on your screen for the same effect.

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  • HellbillyHellbilly A whole title out of pity... Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3931Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    This mod is fiction, not facts.
  • KaliasKalias Superskulk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2560Members
    /me starts a chain selling sticky backed see through cross hair stickers
  • KitsuneKitsune Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7843Members
    Defcon's right. If you put crosshairs only in the hands of the cheaters, then only cheaters will use crosshairs. Wait. That's not right. Oh well. But anyways, think of the children!
  • Big_Game_HunterBig_Game_Hunter Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10539Members, Constellation
    Wow... I am not sure why you object so much to crosshairs considering they've been in just about every FPS since DOOM. Some perspective: Rainbow 6 is arguably the most realistic shooter ever made; the Rainbow 6 team looked into removing crosshairs and having the player use the iron sights on the gun and even they decided it ruined the gameplay. If the most realistic game doesnt want it, I'm pretty sure it doesnt belong in a strategy game more about fun than realism.
  • KitsuneKitsune Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7843Members
    I sincerely hope that all of you defending the crosshairs are just being really good at deadpanning as opposed to not realizing the satirical nature of the post. It. Is. Teh. Funneh.
  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    Good post Teoh, I agree completely.

    I suggest we set up a movement called "Force Advocating Removal of Crosshairs Exploit" or F.A.R.C.E for short.
  • TipTopTipTop Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12092Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->No tactical advantage comes from it,<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If this is the case, what's the problem?

    It is science fiction and the cross hair could easily be superimposed on the Marines retina through the complex (yet fashionable) eye pieces we see the marines wearing.

    Now Fades with sights ... Pfff ...
  • fwd-Randomfwd-Random Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11618Members
    Go Teoh!

    This post is a parody of people like silver fox incase you didnt realise, which most people havent.

    Its a joke...
  • ZarkarkZarkark Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6889Members
    Lol
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    Good one TeoH!

    And what about a monthly pay-off for the marines? I mean, come on, what about realism? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • T_RATT_RAT Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10967Members, Reinforced - Gold
    Hit the nail on the coffin- TipTop.
  • TeoHTeoH Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11640Members
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    I suggest we set up a movement called "Force Advocating Removal of Crosshairs Exploit" or F.A.R.C.E for short.
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    Damn right!

    Don't listen to the tards pheonix, they're just not reading our posts and they're all wrong. You people are against the removal of a cheat because the only way you can win anything is to exploit flaws in the game. What will happen when 1.1 comes out and your little exploit has been fixed? Oh, no. All that time spent on learning how to use the flaws to your advantage was wasted! You'll have to play the game how it was meant to be!

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    think of the children!
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    Crosshair exploits make baby jesus cry

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    this isn't about realism
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    SACRILEGE!
  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    Teoh, I think you've hit on something here. If me and you set set up F.A.R.C.E as I suggested earlier, we could have petitions, leaflet drops, TV interviews.....the possibiltys are endless!

    The shameless exploit of having a crosshair to help with aiming must be stopped!
  • MadJackMcJackMadJackMcJack Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11467Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--TeoH+Jan 10 2003, 06:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TeoH @ Jan 10 2003, 06:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Do i see a translucent shape hanging between my eyes when i walk around spaceships firing sub-machine guns at aliens in <b>real life?</b> NO!

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    You don't? Hmmmm, this could be a serious medical problem I have here.....
  • TikiTorchBobTikiTorchBob Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8527Members
    <b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Funneh <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--></span></b>
  • xectxect Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9807Members
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    When there is a HUD Radar ammo and health display, there is a crosshair, too !!!
    I just dont understand the logic parasite crosshair allthought its REALLY important.
  • OrcristOrcrist Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11050Members
    Try parasiting someone without crosshairs <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • J2pcJ2pc Join Date: 2002-12-05 Member: 10485Members
    w00t
    Why don't we send in some droids?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
    No crosshairs, just some droids who kill-on-sight, <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • kaxmankaxman Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4149Members
    <b>I. LOVE. YOU.</b>

    That is all.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    So long as they're suicide droids. 'Suicide squad, attack! *stabs selves* GHK-Khhhhh... *thump*'
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    um, I have a good reason. Ever try to teach someone how to play a FPS? It's a lot easier to have them learn the fundamentals if they know where they are shooting IMHO. "oh just aim for the middle of your monitor" wouldn't that be the same theory? I personally think it helps people overcome the learning curve of playing FPS-style games.

    That a good reason?
  • stoogstoog Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11102Members
    i actually know a few people who don't play with a crosshair on in TFC, but i guess i cheat cause i use a crosshair, <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> shoot me now
  • LarofeticusLarofeticus Join Date: 2002-10-30 Member: 1764Members
    if you took the time to look at a skulks eyes, you would see the crosshair imprinted directly on the lens, thats how they do it!
  • Sephiroth2kSephiroth2k Join Date: 2002-04-21 Member: 481Members, Constellation
    ummm crosshairs not realistic? *points the the fact that aliens have EYES IM THEIR MOUTHS* you sir, are "filth"
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    TeoH..... I love you.

    [OT] OMGF Seph, you joind the forums on my birthday! J00 r0x0r!!

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  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    edited January 2003
    Let us explore the idiocy of this topic.

    1. There are no places in any of the maps in NS that would allow the marine to pause and assume the ironsight vision position; it would take too long and the skulks would be at his ankles in a matter of seconds. Very frustraiting

    2. Skulks can close in on their desired prey in short, claustrophobic spaces in a matter of seconds, bitting only twice to kill them. Killing them without the aid of an onscreen crosshair would prove extremely trecherous.

    3. I have tried to kill a skulk without the aid of a crosshair and found it impossible (after 10 tries!). With the aid of a crosshair however, it was a simple matter of putting the creature's ugly, slimy, dog-like face between my little yellow reticle and pulling the trigger.

    4. You're an idiot for suggesting this and should be beaten with a soggy trout. I would do it but I disdain fish.
  • TeoHTeoH Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11640Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Renegade+Jan 11 2003, 09:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Renegade @ Jan 11 2003, 09:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->4. You're an idiot for suggesting this and should be beaten with a soggy trout. I would do it but I disdain fish.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thankyou to all the retards who took this thread seriously, you have completely destroyed my faith in humanity.

    Only a half-life mod could pack so much raw idiocy into 1 thread. Now if all of you who have desperately tried to 'prove me wrong' could please direct your cluelessness to the following thread, we might just raise the average IQ of the forum by a couple of notches

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=19138&st=15' target='_blank'>Jumping, optional?</a>
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited January 2003
    This thread is being closed for excessive flamery. Nice first post, BTW.

    <span style='color:red'>***Locked.***</span>
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