When Was Natural Selection Released?

ShadowXORShadowXOR Join Date: 2002-11-27 Member: 10106Members
in NS General Discussion
I started playing NS in early December, 1.03 had just been released. Was NS first released to the public at 1.0? And on what date? 4 years from now when this game is at 3.0+ will I have been considered an OG NSer? I'm quite curious about when it came out, it is doing very well. And an amazing game.
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  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 2002-06-12 Member: 759Members
    Oct 31st 2002 @ about 3:30pm est.
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  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    NS released to the public in the form of NS 1.0 on October 31st.
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  • AcKzAcKz Join Date: 2002-11-27 Member: 10079Banned
    It was halloween night, wasn't it?
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  • SevendashsevenSevendashseven Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3357Members
    Damn time has passed quickly :/
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  • Rabid_LlamaRabid_Llama Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4340Members
    The question is, when was the first balance whine posted? I'm guessing Oct 31, 4:00 PM <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • ObliteraterObliterater Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9652Members
    Nah, i bet some one posted a balance whine before the game was even out, like "0mg Skulx R to g00d cuz they R sc@ry Lo0king..." <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • DocZDocZ Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9831Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Obliterater+Jan 19 2003, 07:32 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obliterater @ Jan 19 2003, 07:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Nah, i bet some one posted a balance whine before the game was even out, like "0mg Skulx R to g00d cuz they R sc@ry Lo0king..." <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    haha good one
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  • VyvnVyvn Join Date: 2002-08-24 Member: 1226Members
    edited January 2003
    Yes, balance complaints were made pretty much as soon as the game came out. The basic differences were a higher damage of marine weapons, and turrets still operated even after the factory was down (and of course none of the 1.04 changes). Due the unique originality of the aliens, and because of massive amounts of lag due to a slight bug in the netcode, the aliens were losing most matches, leading to countless flames of unbalance--TOWARD the marines. Because of this, the game was altered dramatically from how it was playtested, and now we are where we are now.

    I'd like to know what it would be like playing on a 1.0 server, minus the lag, with a bunch of people who know what they're doing. I bet it would be pretty fun.
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  • MooManMooMan Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5154Members
    Well, you have to admit that one of the things was worth complaining about, the whole marines gettting 1000+ res all the time <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    That was funny in the game.

    Ah, I remember the first game I played, it was nancy, and I went alien, due to the teams being like 11v6.

    That was funny, but then the marines came to us with HA HMG GL etc <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> We were deaded <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Frogg2Frogg2 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4867Members, Constellation
    Well 1.0 had that nasty marine res bug were they had way too much res, marines would still dominate.
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  • VyvnVyvn Join Date: 2002-08-24 Member: 1226Members
    I meant I'd like to play NS 1.0, minus ALL the bugs. I didn't mean it would be fun to play on a buggy version.
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  • VecdranVecdran Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2323Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vyvn+Jan 19 2003, 02:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vyvn @ Jan 19 2003, 02:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I meant I'd like to play NS 1.0, minus ALL the bugs. I didn't mean it would be fun to play on a buggy version.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I still think the Gl should be brought back to 1.0 standards
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  • ShadowXORShadowXOR Join Date: 2002-11-27 Member: 10106Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vecdran+Jan 19 2003, 09:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vecdran @ Jan 19 2003, 09:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Vyvn+Jan 19 2003, 02:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vyvn @ Jan 19 2003, 02:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I meant I'd like to play NS 1.0, minus ALL the bugs. I didn't mean it would be fun to play on a buggy version.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I still think the Gl should be brought back to 1.0 standards<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What was it like in 1.0? The GL?
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  • CatpokerCatpoker Join Date: 2002-06-25 Member: 816Members
    edited January 2003
    If you fired the GL in 1.0 and it hit an alien it would instanly explode, no wait time <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> that was fun times

    <b>Note:</b> It still works this way (and if it doesn't, it's a bug).
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  • ShadowXORShadowXOR Join Date: 2002-11-27 Member: 10106Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Catpoker+Jan 19 2003, 11:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Catpoker @ Jan 19 2003, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you fired the GL in 1.0 and it hit an alien it would instanly explode, no wait time <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> that was fun times<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've been wanting it to do that since I started playing (I started at 1.03). Why did they take it out? Grenades are practically useless against moving targets these days...
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  • GrabesGrabes Join Date: 2002-07-18 Member: 966Members
    1.0 diffrences -

    GL had a 6 clip

    GL did more damage

    Can anyone name anything else that wasn't a bug? I am not quite sure if there were any more subtle changes besides those done to weapon damage and carapce.
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  • GrabesGrabes Join Date: 2002-07-18 Member: 966Members
    Oh ya thats right.

    Fades were turtles compared to now lol.

    With the 1.02 patch they became the bad **** and made al lteh hardcore marines go OMG no! lol

    Thus began the reign of the second hive!
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  • GrabesGrabes Join Date: 2002-07-18 Member: 966Members
    True True, i never used acid rocket. Ive always been carapace and celerity.

    Charge those marines and take the bullets for your kharaa brethern!
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  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--ShadowXOR+Jan 19 2003, 04:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShadowXOR @ Jan 19 2003, 04:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Catpoker+Jan 19 2003, 11:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Catpoker @ Jan 19 2003, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you fired the GL in 1.0 and it hit an alien it would instanly explode, no wait time <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> that was fun times<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've been wanting it to do that since I started playing (I started at 1.03). Why did they take it out? Grenades are practically useless against moving targets these days...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Erm... That's still in <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The question is, when was the first balance whine posted? I'm guessing Oct 31, 4:00 PM<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If you can believe it, it was sooner then that as far as I remember. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yup. Some l337 h4x0rs had managed to build a client version out of the server files that had been released a day before and thus had lots of time to find stuff worth complaining about.
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited January 2003
    GL was spamarific in 1.0. They should make an "Upgrade Grenade Launcher" in arms lab, costing 70(so you can buy two GLs or upgrade them for future use) and taking as long as motion tracking to research(at least) that makes it the same as 1.0...
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  • ShadowXORShadowXOR Join Date: 2002-11-27 Member: 10106Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nemesis Zero+Jan 19 2003, 05:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jan 19 2003, 05:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--ShadowXOR+Jan 19 2003, 04:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShadowXOR @ Jan 19 2003, 04:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Catpoker+Jan 19 2003, 11:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Catpoker @ Jan 19 2003, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you fired the GL in 1.0 and it hit an alien it would instanly explode, no wait time <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> that was fun times<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've been wanting it to do that since I started playing (I started at 1.03). Why did they take it out? Grenades are practically useless against moving targets these days...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Erm... That's still in <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I shoot a Fade in the face with a grenade launcher, and it never explodes... I'll seriously spam a hallway and they land at his feet, go through his chest, everything, and won't explode.

    I've also noticed some mines are duds or something as going through the laser as an alien doesn't cause them to detonate.
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  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    You're forgetting a huge change from 1.0
    There was no team balance enforcement so it usually ended up being 14 marines vs 5 aliens.
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