SA is ... OK in my opinion. Which is maybe the worst thing you can say about a site aimed on creating extreme reactions. Really, most of their stuff is simply written so averagely, that no matter how hateful they try to be, it just doesn't transport to me.
The article at hand is one of their better. I guess we can feel honored.
haha good stuff. But it's nowhere near as funny as their counter strike guide. It's been posted on the forums before but in the light of this I'll post it again.
<!--QuoteBegin--Nemesis Zero+Jan 23 2003, 09:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jan 23 2003, 09:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Really, most of their stuff is simply written so averagely, that no matter how hateful they try to be, it just doesn't transport to me.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It sounds like you've had bad experiences with a few of the SA columns. The site includes a broad range of content, only some of it is intended to stirr up flames. Personnally i find the general news posts (Lowtax's at least) to be some of the best content, alot of the side articles are poor or have beaten the same gimmck to death over and over. (Although JeffK, despite the character being milked for all he's worth, still manages to amuse me)
In general, most of the links you find pasted around the gaming community will be for reviews of games, or articles such as cranky steve which at least imo, are the weakest sections of teh site. Try the rest of the content, the aim is not just to be 'hateful', thats simply a gimmick used by some of the writers. He doesn't always attempt it, but lowtax can be humourous without offending anyone.
Hey, I should mention that I love some of SAs stuff (I'm thinking of the mental UN commision here), but unfortunately, it's mostly burried under so much medicore stuff that I just don't bother digging.
I thought the piece on SA.com was entertaining, but not the best they've done. Also, they are right to some degree. Skulks look and act exactly like Zerglings (but not like the "new" ones in the warcraft 3 demo), Onos and Ultralisks äre basically the exact same thing and Fades I think are more like the Predator than Mutalisks. Maybe a mix, whatever.
That doesn't matter. Everyone gets their inspiration from somewhere, from H.R. Giger to the Alien-movies, to the Predator, to StarCraft to NS. I'm sure someone, somewhere, will someday make something that'll be considered a blatant rip of NS. Will you still care then?
<!--QuoteBegin--Widowmaker -CFH-+Jan 24 2003, 04:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Widowmaker -CFH- @ Jan 24 2003, 04:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->haha good stuff. But it's nowhere near as funny as their counter strike guide. It's been posted on the forums before but in the light of this I'll post it again.
one of the funniest things I've ever read in my life. Maybe not everyone will think so but just take a look at my avatar.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hahaha! That was indeed funny! Everybody should read it! I can't stop laughing... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Jan 24 2003, 01:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Jan 24 2003, 01:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->....PS: I sent him a nasty message threatening legal action, so i can get first flame count <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That might be a bad idea, he has a Legal Threats area in the site as well.... don't be surprised if you pop up there <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
EDIT: BTW check the rom reviews area, look for a bolded out -50, its Superman for NES... Laughed my arse off when I read it. EDIT2: Hey, why does the forum censor 4ss but not arse? And why is there 4 * in teh censoring of **** <--- see?
YOU BASTURDS! Hahahahaha... man, you guys suck. You just <b><i><u>HAD</u></i></b> to ruin the whole POINT of the damn thing within the first couple of replies to this thread... You seriously suck, hahahaha. SA is hilarious - don't be so uptight <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would hope the next server patch balances this game more towards the aliens, perhaps by removing the ability of the siege guns to target anything. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hehe, that's rich.
Yeah, this is definately satire. Not neccessarily good satire. However, knowing somethingawful.com, no surprise there. Still, got a chuckle or two out of me.
Hehe. I knew Something Awful is a parody site, but I didn't know about their "reviews". He got so many details so blatantly wrong that even I knew something was up...
"A Marine frantically works to repair a movement tower." (<--That just cracks me up)
You guys do realize SA loves NS and plays it all the time right? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> They do this stuff on purpose, mess up all the info, to get peoples attention and flame them <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You miss the point. The funny part isn't till a week later when they put all the raging flame mail that the article created up on display.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->Hardly. I pointed out that I hoped the flame emails were entertaining. Somehow I think it just boils down to people tricking others and then laughing at them when they get mad. Sort of like myg0t.
Only an idiot would be tricked by a review containing such blatantly false information hosted by what is obviously a humor site that also happens to be called somethingawful.com. There is also a direct link on every review to the home page of truth media explaining that it's all BS.
They give EVERY CLUE that it's not serious. I reiterate, only an idiot would fail to see this, or a frustrated flame-happy blind zealot.
Haha, I absolutely love SA, they have a great knack for satire, and **** people off. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Anyways, I'll have it known that many of the goons like NS and play it quite often.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->THE POINT OF TRUTH MEDIA IS TO MAKE INTENTIONALLY INCORRECT REVIEWS THAT ARE SO RETARDED AS TO ELLICIT FLAMES FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO GET THE JOKE.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
so the fact that he gave Ns a 19/50 really means that he loves the game and thinks its really good? mmmkay
also, the reason for his "starcraft" comments was because the dev's who made NS literally <i>took</i> 2 sounds directly from starcraft. The first is the offensive chamber fire sound...its the exact same wav file as an ultralisk sound in starcraft. The second one is the "egg idle" sound. Its the same sound in starcraft when you select an egg as zerg. go to www.battle.net and download the starcraft sound utility if you dont believe me. I was amazed...
<!--QuoteBegin--colt45+Jan 23 2003, 03:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (colt45 @ Jan 23 2003, 03:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Obviously that moron has never played Natural Selection because he doesnt have clue about the story, the aliens, the marines or any other part of the game. The "Khalat" as was named, were compared to the Zerg. It was humorous when he compared the Onos to the zergling. He misnamed the TSA. It seems he had no idea what TSA stood for so he just took a guess. My only guess is that he heard hearsay about the game and decided to report it, hoping to get some attention. I love reading these articles because they remind me of the college paper i have hear. These so called writers hear something and jump all over theirselves to bash whatever has come up. The only problem is they forgot to do a little thing called "RESEARCH." All we can hope is that the ignorant will dislearn how to reproduce and become extinct one day.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> ^^^^^
<!--QuoteBegin--slaps+Jan 23 2003, 08:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (slaps @ Jan 23 2003, 08:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Did the **** who wrote the article actually play NS or some weird fvcked up clone of NS?
He says it doesnt have the replay value of DoD? I feel the opposite is true! I liked DoD but got bored incredibley quickly with the gameplay <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> This is a problem that I dont seem to have with NS!
Conclusion: the dood is from another planet <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> ^^^^^
While you're schlupping around SomethingAwful, take a look at the "Cliff Yablonski Hates You" section. There's a LOT of pics there, with a lot of commentary, and all of it mean. Some of it so accurately mean-spirited that it's hilarious. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I think this thread is a perfect example of people who reply before reading the whole thread... the joke was busted in the FOURTH post, but people diden't even read that far before blindly hitting reply and looking like total morons.... i wonder if anyone will actually get this far to read this post.
Yes, the CS guide is mildy ammusing if only because it touches so closely on what some players seem to believe. It appears the author can use irony and/or sarcasm ot good effect when pushed, the ns review is just random garbage of no relevence or humour (to me at least). Non of the flames I browsed through were entertaining, in fact many seemed to be spoof flames and it appears SA didn't get the return joke, or perhaps that was their return-return joke <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
Either way it seems like a big waste of time and bandwidth to me - a bit like participating in this thread... oh, hang on....
<!--QuoteBegin--SoBe.Dragon+Jan 25 2003, 08:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoBe.Dragon @ Jan 25 2003, 08:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->THE POINT OF TRUTH MEDIA IS TO MAKE INTENTIONALLY INCORRECT REVIEWS THAT ARE SO RETARDED AS TO ELLICIT FLAMES FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO GET THE JOKE.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
so the fact that he gave Ns a 19/50 really means that he loves the game and thinks its really good? mmmkay
also, the reason for his "starcraft" comments was because the dev's who made NS literally <i>took</i> 2 sounds directly from starcraft. The first is the offensive chamber fire sound...its the exact same wav file as an ultralisk sound in starcraft. The second one is the "egg idle" sound. Its the same sound in starcraft when you select an egg as zerg. go to www.battle.net and download the starcraft sound utility if you dont believe me. I was amazed...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> They didn't take it from starcraft. They took the sounds from a sound pack that they bought that happens to be the same sound pack used in starcraft.
That review is funny as hell... and the screenshots are great. Although I must say, crediting such a work to the wrong author (Valve) and not even providing a link to the game's site is rather dishonest of them. I mean, satire is satire, and this is certainly good satire for anyone who's played the game, but the least they could do, if they're going to use those images and the logo on their page, is provide a link to the game's site, even if they do say it was written by Valve.
>> They didn't take it from starcraft. They took the sounds from a sound pack that they bought that happens to be the same sound pack used in starcraft.
When I developed a game last year without a sound artist, I used a CD suite of sound effects that I had the rights to use. Many products will have similar sounds if they choose to use studio bulk sounds instead of custom making their own. Most dev teams at NS's level do not rip directly from other games. The lawyers would jump on them as soon as their 1.0 would be released.
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Really, most of their stuff is simply written so averagely, that no matter how hateful they try to be, it just doesn't transport to me.
The article at hand is one of their better. I guess we can feel honored.
<a href='http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=395' target='_blank'>http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=395</a>
one of the funniest things I've ever read in my life. Maybe not everyone will think so but just take a look at my avatar.
It sounds like you've had bad experiences with a few of the SA columns. The site includes a broad range of content, only some of it is intended to stirr up flames. Personnally i find the general news posts (Lowtax's at least) to be some of the best content, alot of the side articles are poor or have beaten the same gimmck to death over and over. (Although JeffK, despite the character being milked for all he's worth, still manages to amuse me)
In general, most of the links you find pasted around the gaming community will be for reviews of games, or articles such as cranky steve which at least imo, are the weakest sections of teh site. Try the rest of the content, the aim is not just to be 'hateful', thats simply a gimmick used by some of the writers. He doesn't always attempt it, but lowtax can be humourous without offending anyone.
That doesn't matter. Everyone gets their inspiration from somewhere, from H.R. Giger to the Alien-movies, to the Predator, to StarCraft to NS. I'm sure someone, somewhere, will someday make something that'll be considered a blatant rip of NS. Will you still care then?
Anyways, GJ developers, keep it up. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<a href='http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=395' target='_blank'>http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=395</a>
one of the funniest things I've ever read in my life. Maybe not everyone will think so but just take a look at my avatar.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hahaha! That was indeed funny! Everybody should read it!
I can't stop laughing... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Worst of all, it is true! Hehehe...
That might be a bad idea, he has a Legal Threats area in the site as well.... don't be surprised if you pop up there <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
EDIT: BTW check the rom reviews area, look for a bolded out -50, its Superman for NES... Laughed my arse off when I read it.
EDIT2: Hey, why does the forum censor 4ss but not arse? And why is there 4 * in teh censoring of **** <--- see?
Hehe, that's rich.
Yeah, this is definately satire. Not neccessarily good satire. However, knowing somethingawful.com, no surprise there. Still, got a chuckle or two out of me.
"A Marine frantically works to repair a movement tower." (<--That just cracks me up)
GG SA.
Back before SA got screwed over by 1000 hosts, and Lowtax wrote everything, it was comedy gold.
So again I say, what a waste of bandwidth.
They give EVERY CLUE that it's not serious. I reiterate, only an idiot would fail to see this, or a frustrated flame-happy blind zealot.
Anyways, I'll have it known that many of the goons like NS and play it quite often.
i believe that goes right along with a fade laying down webs
and "Gorger Khalat" ?? <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> spike shooting fade?? acid shooting lerk?? <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->
so the fact that he gave Ns a 19/50 really means that he loves the game and thinks its really good? mmmkay
also, the reason for his "starcraft" comments was because the dev's who made NS literally <i>took</i> 2 sounds directly from starcraft. The first is the offensive chamber fire sound...its the exact same wav file as an ultralisk sound in starcraft. The second one is the "egg idle" sound. Its the same sound in starcraft when you select an egg as zerg. go to www.battle.net and download the starcraft sound utility if you dont believe me. I was amazed...
^^^^^
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He says it doesnt have the replay value of DoD? I feel the opposite is true! I liked DoD but got bored incredibley quickly with the gameplay <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> This is a problem that I dont seem to have with NS!
Conclusion: the dood is from another planet <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
^^^^^
Another one owned by SA
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Either way it seems like a big waste of time and bandwidth to me - a bit like participating in this thread... oh, hang on....
so the fact that he gave Ns a 19/50 really means that he loves the game and thinks its really good? mmmkay
also, the reason for his "starcraft" comments was because the dev's who made NS literally <i>took</i> 2 sounds directly from starcraft. The first is the offensive chamber fire sound...its the exact same wav file as an ultralisk sound in starcraft. The second one is the "egg idle" sound. Its the same sound in starcraft when you select an egg as zerg. go to www.battle.net and download the starcraft sound utility if you dont believe me. I was amazed...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They didn't take it from starcraft. They took the sounds from a sound pack that they bought that happens to be the same sound pack used in starcraft.
Eater.
When I developed a game last year without a sound artist, I used a CD suite of sound effects that I had the rights to use. Many products will have similar sounds if they choose to use studio bulk sounds instead of custom making their own. Most dev teams at NS's level do not rip directly from other games. The lawyers would jump on them as soon as their 1.0 would be released.