Win xp

BananBanan Join Date: 2002-02-22 Member: 235Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">Arr!</div>My mate has this awesome comp (2 ghz 512 mb ram Geforce 4 TI 4400 etc etc)
but the problem is, he's got winXP on it, so theres alot of games he cannot play.
Now I feel sorry for him and i've heard that there is some patch for the winxp to fix this, anyone know where to find this patch?
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  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    Nope.

    WinXP suxx0rz.
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Not play games on XP? Every game I have installed works, I have not heard of a game that doesn't work (that ins't too old of course <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> )
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    What you need is the application compatibility patch, located <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q319580" target="_blank">here</a>

    And WinXP does not suck. It will finally eliminate Win98/ME, which is a greater legacy than any OS has ever had. Down with 24-bit OS's.
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  • BananBanan Join Date: 2002-02-22 Member: 235Members
    Aha, thanks Monsé
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  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    XP can't run Daggerfall.

    What they should have done is rewritten DOS to be 32 bit, rather than eliminating it.
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Ahem. The NTVDM (NT Virtual DOS Machine) in WinNT/2k/Xp <i>is</i> 32-bit. The problem is that your DOS games try to directly control hardware devices, which the NT HAL does not allow. DOS games have no problem whatsoever with the NT emulation, until they try to make hardware do their bidding.

    DOS (which most of you are pretty much too young to have ever really experienced in large quantities), was to put it mildly, a hunk of ####.
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  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    Pshh... I worked with DOS back in the late 80's. When I was 6. I -love- DOS. DOS r0xx0rz j00. My favorite command? dir/w/a/s. In the root directory of a 40GB drive filled to the brim. Yeah. <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

    (Also taught myself QBASIC back in the third grade. [deity] I miss DOS. *sigh*)
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  • Shuvit_ViperShuvit_Viper Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 62Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+May 07 2002,04:57--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (MonsieurEvil @ May 07 2002,04:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->DOS (which most of you are pretty much too young to have ever really experienced in large quantities), was to put it mildly, a hunk of ####.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What are you saying?<!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo--> damn... i had dos even when windows 3.11 was out... i had it till windows 95... it ruled everything!
    and... i learned myself qbasic when i was 12. Although i forgot most of it :S.
    it ruled everything. it was when you could ALWAYS rely on you OS, knowing it would not crash...
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  • pielemuispielemuis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 72Members, NS1 Playtester
    win 3.1 is sort of Dos it was pretty stable and used the DOS primitives (don't know if i can say that in english like this <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> ) hell 3.1 wasn't even an OS windows 95 isn't bad, windows 98 is pretty buggy but userfriendly. Win 2000 is the way to go for serious work on a computer, can't say anything about XP cuz i never even saw it and I'm nto sure it'll run on my comp :/
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  • The_ButcherThe_Butcher Join Date: 2002-03-30 Member: 363Members
    AAAARRRRGGGG!!! I HATE WIN XP! I HATE THIS DAMNED THING!

    Once you install it on a computer, there's no way to get rid of it, except reformat. Sometime you want to change your config but then the damned piece of crap-software from hell don't want to let you do so or simply won't show the options. Anyway, that's not my probem, I don't use it.

    I also heard people say each time you install software, the next time you connect to the internet it sends the software's name and id to microsoft.... I know that's probably not true but if it is...... ME HATES WINXP EVEN MORE!
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  • PlaguebearerPlaguebearer Join Date: 2002-03-21 Member: 338Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Once you install it on a computer, there's no way to get rid of it, except reformat.
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    Not true.  The first time I installed it, I realised that some of my devices (like my gfx accel card) didnt work under XP, so I uninstalled back to 98.  No reformatting needed - it uninstalled itself.

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    Sometime you want to change your config but then the damned piece of crap-software from hell don't want to let you do so or simply won't show the options.
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    Odd, it shows -me- the options.
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    As more fuel to fire, don't forget The Readyroom's exclusive guide to tuning WinXP/2000 for the fastest gaming experience. Over 2000 downloads can't be wrong...

    <a href="http://www.readyroom.org/perfgde_1.html" target="_blank">Diggity</a>
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  • The_ButcherThe_Butcher Join Date: 2002-03-30 Member: 363Members
    O well, maybe that's just me getting even more insane and paranoid, but so far, I hated winxp. About uninstalling maybe it's due to other things (maybe my hardware) or maybe it's because I haven't looked much since I was too mad.

    Also, sometimes I wanted to er...... *play* with different system files but it wouldn't let me as in win98.
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    As an engineer, I really do get frustrated when people make cryptic statements like 'I had problems with <i>X</i> OS so I got rid of it'.

    Learn! Use your issues as a way to pick up experience in the best career you could ever have. I have never spent one day getting official training on computers and networks. I taught myself, prepped myself for certs, and learned from my mistakes. I am now happy and don't have to worry about money ever again. Trust me...
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  • CyonProCyonPro Join Date: 2002-02-02 Member: 154Members
    The only annoying thing I've come across with WinXP (Pro) is having it be VERY unstable if you don't reinstall after putting in a new mobo. Of course, I'm sure this is the case with any OS, but so far it is the only problem I've encountered with XP. It runs solid as a rock for me, normally.
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  • RhoadsToNowhereRhoadsToNowhere i r 8 Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 33Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+May 06 2002,22:57--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (MonsieurEvil @ May 06 2002,22:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->DOS (which most of you are pretty much too young to have ever really experienced in large quantities), was to put it mildly, a hunk of ####.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I suppose I should've responded to this earlier, but DOS was my legacy!  Sure, it has no capacity for multitasking and isn't pretty like all the new OS'es, but man could it do stuff.  And it never crashed!  You could do all the QBasic or C programming and play as much Wolf3d and Doom as you wanted without worrying about invalid instructions!  And do you REALLY need to do anything more than program in C and play Wolf3d?  I didn't think so.  <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
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  • pielemuispielemuis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 72Members, NS1 Playtester
    Win XP eats RAM and I'm not even sure it'll run on my comp
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--RhoadsToNowhere+May 08 2002,12:30--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (RhoadsToNowhere @ May 08 2002,12:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->And do you REALLY need to do anything more than program in C and play Wolf3d?  I didn't think so.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Point taken...

    The hard part was recovering that last couple K of RAM so your game would start. Pretty stable after the 3 hours of config.sys tuning.

    Saying XP uses too much RAM is like saying your Cadillac uses too much gas. You're getting a better platfom, but there's a piper to be paid. See above for real RAM issues, where you're screwing around with EMM386 settings all weekend.

    <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I multitasked in DOS... I'd run CDPLAY and then go have fun in QBasic.  I loved my DOS computer... I was the KING of batch files.  (:
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  • CrematorCremator Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 27Members
    considering that i've been working with XP since its pre-release and i do have knowledge of computers, i even do tech support, please accept what i say here.

    XP is definitely the best windows yet.  it lacks some in the networking, and is slightly less stable than 2K, but it makes up for everything in all other areas.

    as for not being able to run certain programs...  try running in compatability mode.  this will fix 90% of problems.  also, NT can duel-boot, meaning that you can put another OS on the same drive and boot that to do certain things...
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