<whine>i Can't Play Without My Clan!</whine>
c0bra
Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7546Members
Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7546Members
<div class="IPBDescription">I'll kick people if I have to!</div> So I was playing a small game with some guys from DW and I was on their team, the aliens were all nonclanners and one of their clanmates was in the ready room. He couldn't join up with his clan buddies because of the uneven teams so what does he do? He vote_kicks me.
Now I'm sitting here thinking "Why on Earth would I want to be on a clan with a guy who is so reliant on having teammates be his "comfort blanket" that he can't play with other people?" I used to play in clans all the time and if the teams were uneven I would be the first to switch.
Not only that but it seems like lots of clan people will lose the game for their team. Almost every server out there will, a lot of times, have 3 or 4 clan people on one team and they'll screw around and chat and ruin it for everyone else because they aren't dedicated and don't care about having a good game.
I say, if you're going to do that, stick to your own clan servers. Don't populate the normal servers with your crap, there isn't room for it.
On the other hand there are good clans who actually play right and will even teams and I have a lot of fun with them because they communicate and listen and work as a team, the purpose of HAVING a clan in the first place.
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Now I'm sitting here thinking "Why on Earth would I want to be on a clan with a guy who is so reliant on having teammates be his "comfort blanket" that he can't play with other people?" I used to play in clans all the time and if the teams were uneven I would be the first to switch.
Not only that but it seems like lots of clan people will lose the game for their team. Almost every server out there will, a lot of times, have 3 or 4 clan people on one team and they'll screw around and chat and ruin it for everyone else because they aren't dedicated and don't care about having a good game.
I say, if you're going to do that, stick to your own clan servers. Don't populate the normal servers with your crap, there isn't room for it.
On the other hand there are good clans who actually play right and will even teams and I have a lot of fun with them because they communicate and listen and work as a team, the purpose of HAVING a clan in the first place.
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Would you kick me in order to be on their team?
nothing wrong with some friendly rivalry <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
When you're playing pub, don't insist on being on the same team as the rest of your clan. Split the clan between marines and aliens. (Obviously if you can't due to team balance limits then just join whatever team you can)
On the (clan) public server I play on, the resident clanners ALWAYS go autoteam, as do all the server regulars. It's not unusual for the clan members to be spread out over both teams, along with the more experienced players. As a result, all the games over there are wicked sweet - nothing like playing a game with team players against other equally good team players, but with the unpredibility of not knowing just who you'll get on the team. Some of us know each other so well that we end up playing our game strategies off each other's strengths and weaknesses, and the way the game flows is completely changed by the types of players on the team (some teams work better with JP's, others with HA's, etc). It's really cool =).
If the server you're playing on has lame clanstackers, then just find another server. No need to let them have any fun off of you <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->. Look for a cool server with some cool regulars - they are out there.
<i>people are stupid and take the quickest route. impatient drivers exhibit this trait the most.</i>
s/he could've gone on the alien team, asked you to switch, and you would respond in kind. (thats how i'd have done it, if i were him or you.)
being mean is never excusable. and most prominently never polite. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
LANs are the best .. cause you can smack talk without having to stop and type ..
^_^
If it was Badlands, it is their server. I have never personally seen DW stacking into the other team so my guess is they wanted to try out something practicelike without shutting the server from others in the process. I dunno. Shouldn't be such a big deal.
If it's just two people joining I see no reason why it can't go either way, as for being specific about clans I think you should broaden it to "friends". Let's be reailstic, not all clans are top dogs. Alot are just friends who are getting together for some fun.
I try to go random, or if there's a few of us on the server, have 2 go Aliens and 2 go Marines to keep it balanced, something like that. Unless it was supposed to be something like a practice, I don't think he should've kicked you. Coulda joined the game and asked, or something.
<i>everyone</i> should go random <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
why don't you just go spam yourself into some traffic? -.-
^^
Anyhow, Team-stacking is pretty fruity; especially from one of the top European clans.
Irregardless of having fun with your friends; what the hell is the point of playing a game where it is clan vs newbies?
Are they TRYING to ruin the game for the other team? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
And your post was any less spam material? You've simply reworded what's already been said: Clan stacking on Pubs isn't fun/it's lame. And you asked a pointless rhetorical question.
SilverFox on the other hand is simply being social- you know, friendly. This IS a community after all.
Personally I agree with Fox- playing with is as fun as against my clanmates and it makes little difference to me. We recently got our own Server up and running so we can teamstack all we like there =P Even though we don't (often).
On a simular note: I was on a public server of some sort playing one of the Missle Command maps- and by that time 4 or so of my clan-mates had found me on GameTiger and joined the server. We were split up on teams and were just enjoying playing with each other. Yet suddenly we started getting kicked by an admin simply because we were a clan. I rejoined trying to ask why I was kicked and he had just finished typing "ANY OTHER CLANS HERE WANNA GET KICKED??"
Some people are just rude. Anyway, I found out our server was up and running finally, so now we play happily there.
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Come play with us.
Hey SoM I saw your server and nobody's playing <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
No offense, but many clanners are morons. They think that somehow because they joined some clan they're better then all the pubbers. News for you, there are good and bad clanners just like there are good and bad pubbers.
To make it worse, you say you teamstack so that you can have more fun? How is it more fun? If they give you a good fight, your assumption that pubbers are all newbs is wrong. If they don't give you a good fight, then where's the fun?
Not only that, but you may actually IMPROVE your clan by playing against your clanmates. By examining their techniques from the enemy point of view, you may learn something new.
Prove it. This is simply an assumption that you and others have made without any proof whatsoever. My personal belief is that the skill level in clans is similar to the skill level outside and that the team familiarity is the difference.
Being in a clan isn't all it's cut up to be, I've been in one and only one, and doubt I'll ever play games competitively. I don't see much money in it, and I have fun with people I play in pubs with, but sometimes I wanna personally reach through the computer and show them just how useful punching them in the face would be to me. erm, yeah.
This isn't a clan vs pubbers topic, guys. This is more a team-stacking issue, discourtesy of server deal. All you clanners out there, great, glad you're in a clan, hope you learn something new about the game this week. All you pubbers, the same. Silly argument guys.
(Points above to his post)
<b>the team familiarity is the difference. </b>
1. Our average age is around 30
2. We realize it is more fun with even teams
3. We're not a clan <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
***DISCLAIMER***
I'm not saying all young players are punks but this whole "me me me!" attitude is mostly prevalent among younger gamers.
In addition, by stacking your clan on one team, you are stating that you do not feel good enough to beat members of your own clan, and instead want to pick on pub players, who are probally inferior to you in skill.
This is rather bad in T2, as one clanner can stack a team simply by being either a mortar spammer or a flagger, thusly causing the other team to leave. This is the only game I've seen where one person can so drastically affect a game, besides CS.
But I degress.
Anyway, don't clan stack, please. The pub players who play games other then NS and want to have a good game appricate it.
First, Badlands of DW is the best server I have ever seen, and its admins always notify us players if they are having a practice or clanmatch. Then they will wait a moment so everyone disconnects on their own before setting password. They are polite.
Second, if you are kicked because of 'team stacking' whatever, it is rare. Have never seen anyone been kicked from that server.
And yes, I am from Finland <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->