<!--QuoteBegin--ZERG!!+Feb 14 2003, 07:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZERG!! @ Feb 14 2003, 07:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You wouldn't know that before it's too late. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Know what? Obs is 25 resouces, and MT is 45. Teching both is 70. Not that resource-intensive, or difficult.
ShockehIf a packet drops on the web and nobody's near to see it...Join Date: 2002-11-19Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Obs is 25 resouces, and MT is 45. Teching both is 65<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--V-MAN+Feb 16 2003, 08:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V-MAN @ Feb 16 2003, 08:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Canadianmonk3y+Feb 15 2003, 02:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Canadianmonk3y @ Feb 15 2003, 02:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--ZERG!!+Feb 14 2003, 07:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZERG!! @ Feb 14 2003, 07:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You wouldn't know that before it's too late. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Know what? Obs is 25 resouces, and MT is 45. Teching both is 65. Not that resource-intensive, or difficult. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> 70 actualy.
What happens if a skulk or 2 rush the base and chew up the Obs tower when your reserching MT? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Heh, I always make those stupid mistakes... Rofl.
And to the second part, if the base is not defended and the obs goes down, shame on the marines.
Well... to weight in on this in a unique fashion... I'm going to make a bet with any server admins that see me. WonID is 349082 in case you want to ban me before I ever come to your server.
If I am allowed to go Gorge by the majorityof the alien team, after announcing the following AT THE START OF A MAP, and aliens still lose, you may freely ban me from your server for as long as you want.
I will say the following over voice-comm AND team-chat:
"May I gorge? If I do, I will *NOT* build Defense->Movement->Sensory."
Followed by one of the following selections picked at random with a script, so even I won't know which will come up: "I'm going to build Movement->Defense->Sensory." "I'm going to build Movement->Sensory->Defense." "I'm going to build Sensory->Movement->Defense." "I'm going to build Sensory->Defense->Movement." "I'm going to build Defense->Sensory->Movement."
ShockehIf a packet drops on the web and nobody's near to see it...Join Date: 2002-11-19Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
Remember however, me & Crisqo are <b>slightly</b> different. I still advocate D first, but because I see either the other chamber 'passive' abilities not good enough, or the 'active' ones too good.
I'm DSM or occasionally, SDM, but never SMD or MSD.
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I could not agree more to the second part, but being forced to explain the imbalance for months kinda leaves me irritable... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
There should be the option for a forum filter that doesn't display any posts in which any combination of movement, sensory, defense, and first, second, or third is listed.
There are surely other working combinations than the d>m>s combo but once 2nd hive is up you have to have defensive chambers or you will have a damn tough time. It is not so much their upgrade but the healing for your structures and aliens that makes them a must when the fighting gets tough (which is at 2 hive time). If you don't have def chambers then your structures will go down fast and your aliens will die like flies.
Jesus Christ what's with people not liking DMS? I KNOW it's been done to death, I KNOW it's getting boring but by Flayra there's a reason everyone does it: it WORKS. You can win with mov first, you can win with sens first. But you have to have complete and utter confidence that your team can use cloaking, silence or celerity to keep the marines confined to their base because if they get a phase base up in a hive then you have NO base-busting ability without carapace or regen. Argue about it all you want, uncarapaced skulks go down FAST. Same with lerks. You simply very rarely get the required level of teamplay on public servers to warrent anything but defense first. On clan matches sure, do whatever you like. But you need complete confidence in your team for sens or mov first to work, and that is just lacking so often on pub servers. Note: this could very likely change is 1.1 allows all alien types at one hive. Fades and onos have base busting ability inherent.
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Know what?
Obs is 25 resouces, and MT is 45. Teching both is 70. Not that resource-intensive, or difficult.
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/me can't add! WOO!
Monkey........?
Know what?
Obs is 25 resouces, and MT is 45. Teching both is 65. Not that resource-intensive, or difficult. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
70 actualy.
What happens if a skulk or 2 rush the base and chew up the Obs tower when your reserching MT?
Know what?
Obs is 25 resouces, and MT is 45. Teching both is 65. Not that resource-intensive, or difficult. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
70 actualy.
What happens if a skulk or 2 rush the base and chew up the Obs tower when your reserching MT? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Heh, I always make those stupid mistakes... Rofl.
And to the second part, if the base is not defended and the obs goes down, shame on the marines.
If I am allowed to go Gorge by the majorityof the alien team, after announcing the following AT THE START OF A MAP, and aliens still lose, you may freely ban me from your server for as long as you want.
I will say the following over voice-comm AND team-chat:
"May I gorge? If I do, I will *NOT* build Defense->Movement->Sensory."
Followed by one of the following selections picked at random with a script, so even I won't know which will come up:
"I'm going to build Movement->Defense->Sensory."
"I'm going to build Movement->Sensory->Defense."
"I'm going to build Sensory->Movement->Defense."
"I'm going to build Sensory->Defense->Movement."
"I'm going to build Defense->Sensory->Movement."
I'm DSM or occasionally, SDM, but never SMD or MSD.
Crisqo (as far as I can tell) is those two.
miezekatze,
This...
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and more importantly this....
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Don't help.
Note: this could very likely change is 1.1 allows all alien types at one hive. Fades and onos have base busting ability inherent.